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KJJ

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Johnson was in the endzone. Dez was not. He wasn't going down in the process of making the catch. He caught the ball. And went down while trying to extend the ball past the pylon.

I posted the rule to you and it states it doesn't matter if the receiver is in the end zone or not. :rolleyes:
 

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I posted the rule to you and it states it doesn't matter if the receiver is in the end zone or not. :rolleyes:

It clearly does.

How can you make an "act common to the game" if you're in the endzone?

Answer that.
 

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So he had control of the ball. Lunges for the endzone. It's either a fumble or down at point of contact.

You'd need to argue that he was going to the ground as part of the catch. Good luck with that.

Dez had control but was going to the ground so by rule he must hold onto the ball throughout the entire process of contacting the ground and the ball moved which made it an incomplete catch according to the rule. Slow motion replay should be able to determine exactly when a receiver has caught the ball and has control of it and once a catch has been established it should make no difference if the ball comes loose or oscillates due to contact with the ground. The ground is what caused the ball to come loose with Dez and with Calvin Johnson.
 

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You are arguing with me and you're the one missing the point. You're claiming the Cowboys got robbed on a call that was reviewed by 2 sets of expert eyes the ref and Dean Blandino in NY. You're playing referee explaining where the ball should have been placed. LOL Many experts who know more about this than you, I or anyone else on this board said it was the correct call based on the rule. If you think the Cowboys got robbed go air out your grievances to Mike Pereira and Dean Blandino who both agreed with that call and have Twitter accounts. Once again any receiver "going to the ground" must hold onto the ball throughout the entire process of contacting the ground and Dez didn't. I'm done arguing this with you.

In your eyes it's the correct call, meaning dez didn't complete a "football move" (undefined in the NFL rulebook)...so what can you consider a football move, I'm confused.

Because the way I understand it, is that if he completed a football move with control of the ball and 2 feet down, then ball would be allowed to hit the ground for a completion.
 

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Dez had control but was going to the ground so by rule he must hold onto the ball throughout the entire process of contacting the ground and the ball moved which made it an incomplete catch according to the rule. Slow motion replay should be able to determine exactly when a receiver has caught the ball and has control of it and once a catch has been established it should make no difference if the ball comes loose or oscillates due to contact with the ground. The ground is what caused the ball to come loose with Dez and with Calvin Johnson.

A major difference between Dez's and Johnson's is that Johnson leaves the ball on the turf while Dez maintained possession of the ball throughout and the ball was always controlled and never hit the turf without being controlled, if that makes sense.
 

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In your eyes it's the correct call, meaning dez didn't complete a "football move" (undefined in the NFL rulebook)...so what can you consider a football move, I'm confused.

Because the way I understand it, is that if he completed a football move with control of the ball and 2 feet down, then ball would be allowed to hit the ground for a completion.

What's so odd is that they want to make the calls black and white for referees, yet leave language as vague as "make a football move" in the rulebook.

When most reasonable people look at Dez's action today and think that's a football move, yet the referee disagrees, that becomes a problem.
 

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In your eyes it's the correct call, meaning dez didn't complete a "football move" (undefined in the NFL rulebook)...so what can you consider a football move, I'm confused.

Because the way I understand it, is that if he completed a football move with control of the ball and 2 feet down, then ball would be allowed to hit the ground for a completion.

In my opinion he did complete a football move but as he was "going to the ground " he didn't hold onto it throughout the entire process of contacting the ground that's what's confusing everyone. Dez was going to the ground so by rule he has to complete an entire process which I find ridiculous if control and a football move has already been established.
 

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A major difference between Dez's and Johnson's is that Johnson leaves the ball on the turf while Dez maintained possession of the ball throughout and the ball was always controlled and never hit the turf without being controlled, if that makes sense.

Johnson completely loss the ball but although Dez appeared to had control the ball touched the ground causing it to move and come lose even though Dez still had the ball which BY RULE makes it an incompletion. The key here is Dez was going to the ground and so was Calvin Johnson. Both players jumped and made the catch but as they were going to the ground the ball came lose as it touched the ground. It amazes me how many are so confused with the rule. I don't agree with the rule but it was correct call based on the RULE!
 

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Blandino reminds of the dude in wizard of oz calling the shots behind the curtain. What a joke the NFL has become
 

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You heard Rodgers yelling, "New York Bozo."

He was giving Blandino a heads up. In code.

I'm sure Blandinio is getting bombarded on Twitter and I'm sure he won't be fielding any questions.
 

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You are arguing with me and you're the one missing the point. You're claiming the Cowboys got robbed on a call that was reviewed by 2 sets of expert eyes the ref and Dean Blandino in NY. You're playing referee explaining where the ball should have been placed. LOL Many experts who know more about this than you, I or anyone else on this board said it was the correct call based on the rule. If you think the Cowboys got robbed go air out your grievances to Mike Pereira and Dean Blandino who both agreed with that call and have Twitter accounts. Once again any receiver "going to the ground" must hold onto the ball throughout the entire process of contacting the ground and Dez didn't. I'm done arguing this with you.

I don't care what those so called expert stated. I listened to Blandino and his explanation wasn't clear. All he said that he didn't control the ball which obviously Dez did and even you admitted to that. Thus his entire argument was shot right there when he stated that Dez didn't have control coming down with it and replay showed that it did.

Seriously. You think that by listening to these so called experts show that your correct? Just about everyone on twitter says that was a catch. Use your head dude and judge for yourself. I think your in denial.
 

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Blandino reminds of the dude in wizard of oz calling the shots behind the curtain. What a joke the NFL has become

I listened to him and he wasn't so sure of the interpretation as well. All he kept saying that that wasn't a catch. He just kept trying to defend his position without a clear explanation. I think he was trying to pull a bunny out of a hat.
 

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I listened to him and he wasn't so sure of the interpretation as well. All he kept saying that that wasn't a catch. He just kept trying to defend his position without a clear explanation. I think he was trying to pull a bunny out of a hat.

The more everyone explained it the more it sounded like they were just trying to backup steratore and get their story straight. Mike pereira straight up said well he didn't extend his arm far enough. So now refs are now judging how far a player must extend his arm. It's a crap call and everyone knows it but they gotta stay together.
 

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The more everyone explained it the more it sounded like they were just trying to backup steratore and get their story straight. Mike pereira straight up said well he didn't extend his arm far enough. So now refs are now judging how far a player must extend his arm. It's a crap call and everyone knows it but they gotta stay together.

I listened to both of them. Their interpretation wasn't concise and all they stated was that was an incomplete pass. Then mumbled off about the Calvin Johnson rule.

There was no diagrams or scribbles. There was no close up of the entire play, there was no slo mo and analyzing every shot taken during that time. There wasn't even several angles that they said that they saw with. Which makes me come to realize that all their saying is nothing more than hyberbole on the part of the refs and the NFL. Its time to fire someone for all of this.

They didn't plan this thing out correctly. The way they quickly made this decision makes me think they were going to overturn it no matter what so to make sure Dallas doesn't advance. Typical media bias against the Cowboys.
 

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I listened to both of them. Their interpretation wasn't concise and all they stated was that was an incomplete pass. Then mumbled off about the Calvin Johnson rule.

There was no diagram. There was no close up of the entire play, there was no slo mo and analyzing every shot taken. There wasn't even several angles that they said that they saw. Which makes me come to realize that all their saying is nothing more than hyberbole.

They didn't plan this thing out correctly. The way they quickly made this decision makes me think they were going to overturn it no matter what.

they looked at it in a very black and white way, which is the only way they could justify overturning it
 

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they looked at it in a very black and white way, which is the only way they could justify overturning it

Totally agree. They were probably saying in the booth its time to place the dagger into the Cowboys. We have to make sure they don't advance.

Baseball, they can do a slo mo with the ball going at 90 miles an hour. Yet in football they can't even get the replays right. NFL has become a joke.
 

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Dez had control but was going to the ground so by rule he must hold onto the ball throughout the entire process of contacting the ground and the ball moved which made it an incomplete catch according to the rule. Slow motion replay should be able to determine exactly when a receiver has caught the ball and has control of it and once a catch has been established it should make no difference if the ball comes loose or oscillates due to contact with the ground. The ground is what caused the ball to come loose with Dez and with Calvin Johnson.

You don't understand the rule book.
 
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