Don't be surprised if the Cowboys end up missing the playoffs

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KJJ;3134082 said:
Most fans Cowboy fans here are obviously biased towards the team and refuse to look at trends or anything that happened in the past. It's obvious this team has a December monkey on it's back that's just about the size of King Kong. There's a disturbing pattern with this team that's been going on for quite a few Decembers and it's apparently gotten into the head of the players. Their soft head coach doesn't want to address it only to say this is a different team even though it has basically the same players and is being led by the same uninspiring lump. We're currently 8-4 just like we were last year at this time and we just opened Dec with another big loss in a game we should have won. What else is new!

It looks exactly like a repeat of last year. The Giants were ripe for a beating having staggered into last weeks game and Cowboys once again folded under pressure even though Romo had a career day. How they could lose a game with the numbers he put up and no turnovers is beyond me. It's almost like the Cowboys look for ways to lose in Dec. If the Cowboys are a championship caliber team or even a team that has a chance of ending this winless playoff drought they'll win on Sunday. If they don't win the writing is on the wall for this season and it's going to spell out the same thing it did last year.



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With the Michellin Man as HC, no, I would not be surprised if we didn't make the playoffs.
With any other reputable coach with a spine, yes, I would be totally surprised. This would be falling flat on our collective face. A December meltdown like no other. The other coach and Jerra at their worst.And my beloved Cowboys at their worst.
And you know what? If Wade performs his belly flop this december, Jerra would STILL not criticize Wade in public. He'd remain that forever-hopeful, forever-optimistic owner he's always been. Optimistic, enthusiastic, proactive and, ultimately, in denial.
 

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Hostile;3136446 said:
You.

Up for a challenge, or will you run like a scared cockroach when the light comes on?

You want to play with tarot cards and burn incense while howling at a full moon and playing your bongo drums be my guest.

Clearly, no exaggeration there ;)
 

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KJJ;3136487 said:
Every year for the past 13 years must have been a surprise for you then. :p: I don't enter each season thinking the Cowboys have no shot but there comes a point in every season when you start seeing what kind of team you have. Throughout this entire season we've seen alot of the same penalties and inconsistencies we've seen in previous seasons. Everytime the team appears to have turned a corner they end up reverting back to what we were seeing when they weren't playing as well. Since the GB loss the Cowboys haven't looked particularly good. All they've done is beat two teams that aren't going anywhere and struggled to escape with one of those wins at home. It's clear that once again the Cowboys peaked too soon and any objective realist can see they're not playing their best football of the season when it's starting to really matter. That's never a good sign! Dude I'm a frustrated fan and I'm seeing the same disturbing trend with this team I've been seeing for the past few years. Obviously our December struggles have gotten into the players heads. The entire football world is on to it and the team simply can't escape the scrutiny of it until they start winning in December.

Obviously you're wearing blinders to all of this because you're an admitted homer who will never get discouraged no matter how many times the Cowboys falter in December-Jan. Some of you are like Jerry Jones nothing this team ever does discourages any of you. You look at this team through rose colored glasses and fans who do that I scoff at their opinions because everything they say comes from their heart. Anything is possible from here on out but I have a very good pulse on this team being a diehard fan for 37 years and Sundays game is a must win or this team simply doesn't have it and won't have it when it becomes do or die at the end of the season. I know you won't give up on the Cowboys no matter what happens Sunday or even if they get rolled over by the Saints but there's a graveyard for homers like you who crash and burn on the Cowboys bandwagon every year. Just be sure to grab your crash helmet and buckle up if the Cowboys are sitting at 8-5 Sunday evening.

haha now you are an "objective realist" yet i am wearing blinders just because i still see a team that is in the hunt for a division title.
haha you have a good pulse on this team because you have been a fan for 37 years , maybe one of these days you will learn that each game is played independent of the ones played before or after.
the graveyard for "homers like me" is amazingly empty because people like me HAVE NEVER BEEN ON A BANDWAGON ! we leave that to those objective realists who insist on checking the pulse after every play just so they can be the first to declare "their" team dead or dying.

how can you claim "objectiveness" yet state you "scoff" at others opinions ?
you see it your way, i will see it mine. in the end neither of us has any effect on this teams fortunes, all we can do is choose how we want to enjoy our team.

have a great day, enjoy it if you can.
 

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Hostile;3136906 said:
I take this as a no. You spouted off and of course can't back it up.

Back what up? Why I fear this team will collapse in Deceber again? I've provided support for that opinion on numerous threads.

Empirical evidence is simply evidence acquired via observation. I've observed this team collapse in December the last 4 years, and I observed the same thing last Sunday in New York. This team plays differently in December, that much is undeniable. Why is the question. I believe it is because there is an enormous mental block that is preventing us from playing up to our potential, but until we play up to that potential the block won't go away. It's a cycle that is very difficult to overcome.

The visual evidence does not support that we are just getting outplayed by better teams all the time in December. We arent getting stonewalled, we are missing open receivers, missing tackles, blowing coverages, etc. at a much higher rate than we normally do.
 

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The30YardSlant;3136965 said:
Back what up? Why I fear this team will collapse in Deceber again? I've provided support for that opinion on numerous threads.
I asked, "are you up for a challenge?" Care to show off your "science?"
 

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Hostile;3136969 said:
I asked, "are you up for a challenge?" Care to show off your "science?"

Empirical evidence is simply evidence acquired via observation

Scientific method. You make an observation and then develop a hypothesis. I've made my observations of this team many times over and have developed a hypothesis. We now must await further testing to see if that hypothesis proves accurate.

The "further testing" occurs over the next 4 weeks
 

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The30YardSlant;3136976 said:
Scientific method. You make an observation and then develop a hypothesis. I've made my observations of this team many times over and have developed a hypothesis. We now must await further testing to see if that hypothesis proves accurate.

The "further testing" occurs over the next 4 weeks
Ah, so now you admit all you have is a hypothesis? Yet you asked me why I wouldn't accept the scientific facts.

You're one of the worst debaters I face off against on occasion. I will gladly give you 2 tests and you can use your "science" to look impressive.

As I said, you are taking a shot in the dark. Nothing more. Now, you're admitting exactly what I said. Scurry from the light.
 

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Hostile;3136989 said:
Yet you asked me why I wouldn't accept the scientific facts.

No I didnt

Not much into science, huh?

You called an educated hypothesis a shot in the dark. Any 3rd grader who's participated in a local science fair knows better.

I never said my opinion was fact, and certainly never a scientific fact. I said it was all but a forgone conclusion. Evolution isnt a fact, but obervations have led the majority of humanity to accept it as truth.

You're right, I'll never be able to prove beyond any doubt it's in our player's heads, but like many thing that can't be "proven", it's painfully obvious to people who arent sticking their heads in the sand.
 

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The30YardSlant;3137001 said:
No I didnt



I never said my opinion was fact, and certainly never a scientific fact. I said it was all but a forgone conclusion. Evolution isnt a fact, but obervations have led the majority of humanity to accept it as truth.

You're right, I'll never be able to prove beyond any doubt it's in our player's heads, but like many thing that can't be "proven", it's painfully obvious to people who arent sticking their heads in the sand.
Just like I have maintained from the beginning.

Voodoo, superstition, and nothing more than a hypothesis. I am not surprised you lack the testicular fortitude to back this crap up. I am surprised you spouted off it was a "science" in the first place. That was rather stupid.
 

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Hostile;3137008 said:
Just like I have maintained from the beginning.

Voodoo, superstition, and nothing more than a hypothesis. I am not surprised you lack the testicular fortitude to back this crap up. I am surprised you spouted off it was a "science" int he first place. That was rather stupid.

I've backed it up. You havent acknowledged it. Just like you failed to acknowledge your outright lie in the above post. Just like you failed to acknowledge your inability to understand grade school concepts.

Basically, just like your failure to acknowledge anything that hurts your argument, makes you look bad or emphasizes your ignorance about a particular subject. But I'M the one without any testicular fortitude
 

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The30YardSlant;3137011 said:
I've backed it up. You havent acknowledged it. Just like you failed to acknowledge your outright lie in the above post. Just like you failed to acknowledge your inability to understand grade school concepts.

Basically, just like your failure to acknowledge anything that hurts your argument, makes you look bad or emphasizes your ignorance about a particular subject. But I'M the one without any testicular fortitude
No, you haven't. You have spouted a bunch of nonsense. I was going to give you a chance to back it up, and you ran like a scared rabbit.
 

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poke;3136904 said:
haha now you are an "objective realist" yet i am wearing blinders just because i still see a team that is in the hunt for a division title.

You said you're a "homer" and would be surprised if the team doesn't make the playoffs so you would have to be wearing blinders if you can't see the potential for disaster if they lose Sunday. That's all I've pointed out throughout this thread. No matter how poorly coached the Cowboys are or how much heart they lack homers like you always pick their team. If they have a fan club for team homers you should run for president.


poke;3136904 said:
haha you have a good pulse on this team because you have been a fan for 37 years , maybe one of these days you will learn that each game is played independent of the ones played before or after.

I learned from being insightful and objective the Cowboys are being coached by a HC who has a long history of not being able to prepare a team for the playoffs. His dismal history has followed him to Dallas. Wade Phillips is best known for being the son of Bum and the lump who didn't have his team prepared for a desperation play in the final 15 seconds during a kickoff in a game known as the Music City Miracle. I understand that a team has to step up this time of year and win the games that matter if they want to advance. The Cowboys have a long trend for losing in December and we're continuing to see it. The only thing that's going to cause this December black cloud that's been hanging over this team since 96 to dissipate is WINNING.


poke;3136904 said:
the graveyard for "homers like me" is amazingly empty because people like me HAVE NEVER BEEN ON A BANDWAGON ! we leave that to those objective realists who insist on checking the pulse after every play just so they can be the first to declare "their" team dead or dying.

You must have done some grave robbing because there's a yard full. May they rest in peace! I bet you were on the bandwagon, singing, dancing and popping the champagne in 07. :tunes: It's a wonder you survived that crash and burn.

poke;3136904 said:
how can you claim "objectiveness" yet state you "scoff" at others opinions ?

I scoff at "homers" opinions because they're not objective they talk with their heart. I like reading posts from unbiased Cowboy fans who tell it like it is. Some of you here can't even bring yourselves to be critical of your own team no matter how bad they look. Why don't some of you just try out for cheerleaders. :beatit:

poke;3136904 said:
in the end neither of us has any effect on this teams fortunes, all we can do is choose how we want to enjoy our team.

have a great day, enjoy it if you can.

I can't enjoy my team when they don't show heart and end up losing the most meaningful games of the year. If you still enjoy the Cowboys watching them fail every December with heartless performances that put a sour taste in your mouth the entire offseason then send me whatever you're taking before games to deaden the pain.
 

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Some here are under the impression I think negatively all the time because my standards for the Cowboys are high but there is one positive thing I took from last Sundays loss that may help the Cowboys chances these last 4 games. That one positive was Romo's performance last week. That was without question the best December game of his career and it may be the only loss on his record that couldn't be pinned on him. The numbers he put up last week would win 9 out of 10 games but a fumble and two huge breakdowns cost us the game. The fact that Romo stepped up and played well with as many times as he had to throw probably gave him some confidence going into tomorrows game. With the Chargers high powered big play offense you got to figure it's going to be a real shootout between Rivers and Romo. It's going to take some big plays for the Cowboys to win so I expect to see Romo take it down the field.

If Romo can build off of last weeks performance and the Cowboys can knock off a hot team like the Chargers that could get them on a roll at the perfect time. If Romo can continue avoiding the turnovers and hit on some big plays the Cowboys are capable of beating any team IF the defense holds up. No player on the team determines the Cowboys fate more than Romo. It's possible he may have turned the corner some last week now we have to see if the players around him will step up so he doesn't once again have to carry the team. Romo is not a QB who can win games by himself this was proven last week.
 

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KJJ;3137340 said:
Romo is not a QB who can win games by himself this was proven last week.

i disagree. what was proven was this _team_ needs more than an amazing qb performance to win.
 

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KJJ;3137340 said:
That one positive was Romo's performance last week. That was without question the best December game of his career and it may be the only loss on his record that couldn't be pinned on him.

That was a pretty stupid thing to say. There's plenty of losses that couldn't be pinned on him, at least by a reasonably sane person.
 

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ChldsPlay;3137407 said:
That was a pretty stupid thing to say. There's plenty of losses that couldn't be pinned on him, at least by a reasonably sane person.

When I said last Sundays loss maybe the only loss on his record that couldn't be pinned on him I didn't mean that every loss the Cowboys have had with him at QB was his fault alone. Others played a part in those losses but Romo's poor play has played a big part too because in almost every loss he's committed costly turnovers. Go examine his game stats. His stats usually reflect on how the Cowboys played except for last week. The Cowboys have only won 3 games under Romo when his QB rating was under 70.0 because so many games come down to him having to make plays. The worst game Romo played in which the Cowboys won was against Buffalo in 07. Romo had 6 turnovers 5 INT's and one fumble. The reason the Cowboys won was because Romo passed for over 300 yards, tossed 2 TD's and played brilliantly in the final 5 minutes of the game to put the Cowboys in a position to kick the game winner.

If you go through all of Romo's losses alot of his bad decisions played a big part in those losses this is why the Cowboys attempted to go to a more "Romo friendly" offense this season. They're trying not to rely on him so much but our offense still relies on his ability to make plays. We've tried running the ball more but games are still coming down to him having to throw the ball for the Cowboys to win. You have some Romo haters out there who still tried to pin last Sundays loss on him because he missed a wide open RW on a key pass and he wasn't clutch in the 4th quarter. Last week was at least a positive sign because his play didn't implode when his arm had to carry the team. He better get some help tomorrow or things could get ugly. The Chargers are a very dangerous, explosive team that can put up alot of points. The Cowboys better keep an good eye on Darren Sproles he can kill you out in space on short screens and dumps. :eek:
 

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QB9fan;3136630 said:
How mature? And you're an administrator???:laugh2:

You get used to it after awhile, but it is still rather humorous.
 
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