Don't be surprised if the Cowboys end up missing the playoffs

[Doomsday101]

No more so than you can. It's just the feeling I get from the way some come off on this board. It's quite possible I'm wrong. I have not real way of knowing as I don't know these people personally.

It's just all the feeling I get from the way a few come off in their posts. And how is it conveniently optimistic? I'm always optimistic with the team. Always.

I don't know what that is other than optimistic cause I just don't see the point in going into a competition with the thought process that "Oh well realistically we've got a great shot of losing and the trend of the last several years says we will so I'll just accept that it's likely."

I just don't do that. Never have and I never will.

To each their own though.




Difference of opinion I guess. I think people sitting around believing we'll lose, thinking it's most likely, predicting it to be likely are just having a defeatest attitude. I really, really, really hope there aren't any players in the entire league who go into their games with that kind of attitude because they've already lost before they even start the game if they're thinking that way.




So what you're saying is that as long as Wade is here we should just not play the December games? I mean why should the players expect it to be any different? Why bother showing up at all? The last 13 years have been terrible in the end so why even bother showing up at all at the end. Just back it in, call it a day, and accept that because the last two Decembers under Wade haven't been good so there is no reason to believe this one will be either.

I agree. As Tony Romo said they go into every game fully believing they can and will win the game, of course it does not turn out that way all the time but I don't think teams go into games thinking they can't win the game not even teams like Cleveland and Oakland go into games thinking no way we can win.

 

[Bach]

To each their own though.

Difference of opinion I guess. I think people sitting around believing we'll lose, thinking it's most likely, predicting it to be likely are just having a defeatest attitude. I really, really, really hope there aren't any players in the entire league who go into their games with that kind of attitude because they've already lost before they even start the game if they're thinking that way.

I'm rational and hopeful. In a discussion, I'll say what I feel and believe. I just don't see the point of checking my mind at the door. Just because I want us to go 5-0 or at least 4-1 to finish, I rationally know that the odds of that aren't likely - due to the schedule and yes, the trend. I'm open to seeing them change that and come through for once. But to say, I think we're going to finish 5-0 or 4-1 just because that's what I hope, seems rather pointless.

So what you're saying is that as long as Wade is here we should just not play the December games? I mean why should the players expect it to be any different? Why bother showing up at all? The last 13 years have been terrible in the end so why even bother showing up at all at the end. Just back it in, call it a day, and accept that because the last two Decembers under Wade haven't been good so there is no reason to believe this one will be either.

Trends can be broken. I don't think it is destined that Wade can't ever win a playoff game or that the Cowboys will always fade in December. But, that has been the case and I'm just waiting for them to change the trend.

 

[Bach]

Yes it is ..... Its a cowards way of dealing with things.

Speaking of cowards -- hey Zrin!

 

[zrinkill]

Speaking of cowards

Yes I was talking about you and your ilk.

 

[Bach]

Yes I was talking about you and your ilk.

Do you ever have anything to add to this site other than running around trying to spew insults?

 

[zrinkill]

Do you ever have anything to add to this site other than running around trying to spew insults?

Who insulted who first?

 

[Bach]

Who insulted who first?

That's what I thought. You've got nothing.

kthxbye

 

[zrinkill]

That's what I thought. You've got nothing.

kthxbye

Typical tactic of a defeatist.

 

[aikemirv]

I WILL be surprised if this TEAM does not get it together and win 2-3 of the next 4 games and get in the playoffs.

They have the leaders this year, they have the talent, they need to FOCUS and stop making crucial errors.

28 of the Giants 31 points came on combined drives of 10 plays.

10 PLAYS - when you think about that it is absolutely ridiculous

 

[Bach]

Yes it is ..... Its a cowards way of dealing with things.

Yes I was talking about you and your ilk.

Typical tactic of a defeatist.

Like I said, you've got nothing, except for your childish insults and namecalling.

It is interesting how long you've managed to hang on around here since it's supposedly against the rules and it's about all you ever do.

Actually, no, I'm not surprised.

 

[zrinkill]

Like I said, you've got nothing, except for your childish insults and namecalling.

It is interesting how long you've managed to hang on around here since it's supposedly against the rules and it's about all you ever do.

Actually, no, I'm not surprised.

Giving up before the games are played is the cowards way ..... I was not directing that specifically at you until you called me a coward.

So run back to your new home with the rest of the cowards and talk about how mean we are over here **** little **** *****.

:laugh2:

 

[DallasEast]

No, I played organized athletics like probably 90% of people here, and I don't see this you're talking about on the sidelines.

What I think is happening is you're afraid this team is going to lose like it has in past years and you're letting your fears influence what you think you see. Because none of us know what is going to happen the rest of the year. If you know, then call Vegas with your life savings and get rich. You willing to do that? I didn't think so.

It's just way too simplistic to say that what happened last year or the year before is what will happen this year. Ask the Steelers or Patriots how that works.

Yep yep.

See sig line below.

 

[Joe Realist]

If we are good enough, we will beat these teams, regardless if the schedule is tough or not. Maybe we are not good enough? We shall see. We are sick of the annual December swoon, however if we would go 3-1 the rest of the way, at least for one year, we can say they bucked this " trend ".

 

[CF74]

No more so than you can. It's just the feeling I get from the way some come off on this board. It's quite possible I'm wrong. I have not real way of knowing as I don't know these people personally.

It's just all the feeling I get from the way a few come off in their posts. And how is it conveniently optimistic? I'm always optimistic with the team. Always.

I don't know what that is other than optimistic cause I just don't see the point in going into a competition with the thought process that "Oh well realistically we've got a great shot of losing and the trend of the last several years says we will so I'll just accept that it's likely."

I just don't do that. Never have and I never will.

To each their own though.

I don't ever pick our team to lose unless I'm fully persuaded they suck and it's been a very very long time that I was persuaded that way. We've been in almost all of our games and the majority of the ones we've lost have been by a few points. I see this team slowly coming together despite the deficiency of the coaches. To me good coaching gives you an edge but in the end the players still have to want it and they still have to make the plays. It would be nice to have that edge though because this game is about inches and yards and sometimes setting up players to succeed makes up that difference.

We are stacked with skilled players and there's no reason why we can't compete with anybody on any given Sunday. When the team lays an egg you go back in your mind and you remember how many times we've come close but fell short. Some people take the loss harder than others but it doesn't make them any less of a fan.

I'm sick of the holier than thou bunch more so than the naysayers. God I hope I don't ever get to the point where I think I'm better than the "Miserable" fans....

 

[KJJ]

That's known as the Tony Dungy-Jon Gruden phenomenon (or Jimmy Johnson-Barry Switzer if you prefer). As much as I hate to admit it, Tomlin took Cowher's team and rode their coattails to a Superbowl win. He is a glorified cheerleader and a mouthpiece. What a nosedive the Squealers have taken. I think you will see them continue to slide now that Cowher is a few years removed.

Switzer took over a Cowboys team that had just won back to back Super Bowls. Tomlin took over a Steelers team that was just coming off an 8-8 season under Cowher. See any similarities? That Steelers team was declining that's what prompted Cowher to step down. They went 15-1 in 04 and 11-5 in 05 in route to winning the Super Bowl. Like last years Steelers championship team that 05 team also overachieved to win the SB having an average offense and winning with a great defense. The Steelers were 3 years removed from winning a SB when Tomlin led the Steelers to the title last season. That team had a DREADFUL OL that couldn't pass protect and they couldn't run the ball. The Cowboys had them down by 10 points with 8 minutes to play last year and they CHOKED! That game got the Steelers going in one direction and the Cowboys in another. That Steelers team showed character and heart which is something the Cowboys lack. Tomlin did one hell of a job leading that team to a championship with such a pathetic OL that couldn't protect Roethlisberger all season. Hell Ben got strapped to a stretcher late in the season because of their OL.

As for Dungy/Gruden Dungy went 9-7 his final season in TB and a one and out in the playoffs. His Bucs were 10-6 the year before and that team also went one and out this is why he got fired. Gruden came in and kicked that team in the butt and it got them going. Like the Steelers the Bucs were another team that won their championship because of a great defense. Any coach who can win a SB with Brad Johnson at QB deserves alot of credit. Player turnover and Grudens tough overbearing approach finally wore on his team and they stopped responding.

See above. He hasn't taken a team anywhere but into a sub .500 record and out of the playoffs.

Cowboys are still in the thick of things. If they faulter you'll have about 9 more months to twist your panties in a knot and cry the blues, so why don't you do us all a favor and save it.

You need see above. Switzer took over a Cowboys team that Jimmy just led to back to back SB wins. That team was LOADED with talent! Tomlin took over a Steelers team that Cowher just led to a disappointing 8-8 season and Gruden took over a TB team that hadn't won anything under Dungy in 3 years so that blows your entire argument out of the water so try doing some research before opening your mouth. :shades:

 

[The30YardSlant]

Also known as a shot in the dark.

Not much into science, huh?

 

[Hostile]

Not much into science, huh?

Superstition. There's no science to it. You can't break it down into a chemical formula or a physics scenario.

You want to play with tarot cards and burn incense while howling at a full moon and playing your bongo drums be my guest. You'll never sell me on this crap. I was born at night, but it wasn't last night.

 

[KJJ]

Giving up before the games are played is the cowards way ..... I was not directing that specifically at you until you called me a coward.

So run back to your new home with the rest of the cowards and talk about how mean we are over here **** little **** *****.

:laugh2:

Well if you're directing that at me I never said I was giving up on the team I was just pointing out that the Cowboys are likely done if they lose to the Chargers on Sunday. As we sit here right now realistically the Cowboys are going to have to go at least 2-2 the last 4 games to make the playoffs. This is exactly what they needed to do last year but ended up going 1-3 and missing out. A loss at home Sunday will have the team staggering into New Orleans needing to win 2 of their final 3 games to qualify. That will be a tremendous challenge for this team based off their recent history of folding in crunch games. The odds on beating the Saints are very slim as great as that team looks. I'm not saying it's going to be impossible to beat the Saints in the dome but if the Cowboys are limping in and NO looks anything like they did against NE a couple of weeks ago they'll likely blow out the Cowboys. The Cowboys are going to lose tie breakers to GB, NY and possibly Philly if the Eagles beat us in the season finale.

The Cowboys have lost 3 conference games compared to Philly's 2 conference losses and of the Cowboys 4 remaining games 3 are conference games. Head to head records will first come into play then conference records. When you do the math the Cowboys are going to be in dire straights if they lose on Sunday. Here's their chance to step up and show they can win a game at home that they really need. The Packers were able to step up against the Cowboys in a must win situation and NY got it done against the Cowboys when they really needed a win. This Cowboys team has got to start showing some guts and do the things that championship teams do or this season will end in another disappointment.

 

[zrinkill]

Well if you're directing that at me

I was not ..... just made the statement.

You and the rest solely decide if it applies to you or not.

 

[KJJ]

I was not ..... just made the statement.

You and the rest solely decide if it applies to you or not.

With some of the things you've read into my comments I wasn't sure who you were talking to. At this point I haven't given up on this season all I've done is point out the significance of Sundays game and what I think will happen if the Cowboys lose. I gave an "opinion". If the Cowboys win Sunday then I think they make the playoffs. Again that's my opinion. Sunday will determine where this season ends up in my opinion.