Don't blame Stephen, Jerry or Dak, it's the market

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  1. Hawkeye0202

    Hawkeye0202 Well-Known Member

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  2. jazzcat22

    jazzcat22 Well-Known Member

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    Many will still find a way to blame them.

    Me, well, I blame Rowdy, and am sticking to that. :muttley:
     
  3. glimmerman

    glimmerman Well-Known Member

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    Yep. It is what it is.
     
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  4. Hawkeye0202

    Hawkeye0202 Well-Known Member

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    Simply a salary explosion for NFL STARTING QBS.....only way to stop it is a rookie contract or recycling the position every 5-6 years with a rookie.
     
  5. Aerolithe_Lion

    Aerolithe_Lion Well-Known Member

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    Or a high upside veteran gamble. Foles, Bortles, Tannehill.

    People forget Bortles has had now 2 good-to-great years in a not very passer-friendly Jacksonville offense. He led his team to an AFC championship game, and he's one of about a dozen guys in nfl history to throw 40 tds in a season. He's no bust, he just needs the right environment.
     
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  6. conner01

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    And it’s gonna get worse with next CBA
     
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  7. InTheZone

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    It's called draft another QB and pay minimum for 4 years

    We can repeat the production of come very close to it with another QB, unless we believe Dak has become that much better over the last 3 months...

    The market may set the price, but when that price is too high for a position for average play I see no rule stating we have to roll with it.
     
  8. glimmerman

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    You should grab him for your back up.
     
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  9. Aerolithe_Lion

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    I think someone already signed him, but I wouldn't have been opposed to it if he was cheap.
     
  10. CouchCoach

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    I do not blame them for any one player's salary as every team has some overpaid positions. It is their job to balance it all out and not get too much going to too few.

    The situations with Elliott, Cooper, Jones and Smith will be a little tougher because none of these teams wants to pay the QB's what they're paying them. That's just the cost of keeping the most critical player.

    Every agent knows there is a shortage of really good NFL caliber QB's. There are not 32 high caliber players at any position so good ones get paid great money. If Mahomes has close to the season this year that he had last season, how much do you think he's getting? He will break the 40 barrier.
     
  11. Toruk_Makto

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    The market for a franchise QB is what the market is.

    Assigning Dak as a franchise QB is exactly the thing to blame Jerry & Stephen for.
     
  12. Hawkeye0202

    Hawkeye0202 Well-Known Member

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    If you believe Spotrac......Mahomes is worth $35.2M right now but he's not an UFA until 2026. No way in hell they wait that long, UNLESS his agent give them no choice.

    https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/kansas-city-chiefs/patrick-mahomes-21751/market-value/

    https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/kansas-city-chiefs/patrick-mahomes-21751/
     
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  13. glimmerman

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  14. Toruk_Makto

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    What? Mahomes is a UFA after 2020. He'll get the 5th year option that will push that to 2021. No idea where you're getting the 2026 number.
     
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  15. Established1971

    Established1971 fiveandcounting

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    oh no, he is a bust, he was healthy last year and was laughingly inept
     
  16. Aerolithe_Lion

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    Probably has nothing to do with dumping Hurns, Allen Robinson, Marcedes Lewis and Fournette taking a massive step back. A shell of the offense they had in 2017
     
  17. MaaS

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    Yep. QB's are scarce and thus expensive. We had a golden window of three years paying Dak a total of like 6 million and blew it. Now, we either need to pay the market rate or gamble on finding another Dak. I'll take our odds going with the former.
     
  18. WillieBeamen

    WillieBeamen BoysfanfromNY

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    :hammer:
     
  19. TwentyOne

    TwentyOne Well-Known Member

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    Yeah always blame something abstract. So its never the people's character that makes the system work.
     
  20. Hawkeye0202

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