Dorian Green-Beckham

[ColeBeasley11]

Obviously you may not even have him on your board depending on what the coaches and scouts say, but if you do he has the same level of talent that Dez has. That is a top five pick if he doesn't have the baggage, he may well slip into the 2nd but I doubt he slips all the way to 60.

Dez was considered the same type of risk, he was top five pick and the Cowboys traded up (their 3rd for a 4th) to get him late in the first round. Dez wasn't considered a sure thing to make it and is one of the dominant WRs in the game right now, if the coaches think they can do the same thing the combination of DEZ and Dorian Green-Beckman would be dominant. Both are guys that will catch or knock down every ball thrown to them, even if they are covered well.

He's a beast definitely but he's not as good a prospect as Dez. Look at Dez's production at OSU he was a TD machine 19 as a sophmore! DGB looked really good at times but not on the same level imo.

 

[ColeBeasley11]

I am not going to judge him on his family, but he has to account for his own stupidity over the last few years. I think his potential is unlimited and a good coach can change any flaws in his game if Green-Beckham wants to change his play on the field and his behavior off the field. Dallas has too many holes to gamble a 2nd round pick on him IMO, but their third rounder is late in the round and would be worth the gamble. A 4th round pick would be an easy decision.

As others have said he's long gone by late third round. If we want him we'd have too grab him at 27. Some team could even take him before that, guys that big and fast not too mention great athlete, don't come around often.

 

[xwalker]

Totally agree (and with DBOY that they can usually spot the guys that are serious trouble) but don't the Cowboys have a strong relationship with the Oklahoma coaches? I'm sure they know the Missouri coaches as well, I'm sure they would do their own evaluation before spending a high pick but the initial screening could be through friends in the coaching ranks.

They might have already removed him from their board. Stephen Jones says their board has only had about 120 players on it the past few years. It was 240 several years ago.

 

[Vinnie2u]

Gurley in the 1st... DBG in the 2nd... Petty in the 3rd.... The new triplets! My just mocking draft...

 

[Kaiser]

They might have already removed him from their board. Stephen Jones says their board has only had about 120 players on it the past few years. It was 240 several years ago.

I wouldn't doubt that. The idea of two Dezs on the team really intrigues me but its all based on the idea that Green-Beckham has a maturity problem and isn't a thug. If he is a thug no one wants him on the team, myself included.

 

[jnday]

As others have said he's long gone by late third round. If we want him we'd have too grab him at 27. Some team could even take him before that, guys that big and fast not too mention great athlete, don't come around often.

I don't think he will go in the first by any means. I have read to many comments by scouts saying his off the field issues are the worst they have ever seen. I have not read the first comment saying that he is rated high due to his issues. Many draft sites don't let those issues effect their their ratings though.

 

[xwalker]

I wouldn't doubt that. The idea of two Dezs on the team really intrigues me but its all based on the idea that Green-Beckham has a maturity problem and isn't a thug. If he is a thug no one wants him on the team, myself included.

Maybe they should just overdraft a guy like Darren Waller and see if they can turn him into a DGB type since they have similar freakish measurable(s). They might have to go 4th to be assured of getting Waller.

 

[ColeBeasley11]

I don't think he will go in the first by any means. I have read to many comments by scouts saying his off the field issues are the worst they have ever seen. I have not read the first comment saying that he is rated high due to his issues. Many draft sites don't let those issues effect their their ratings though.

Ya 2nd seems more probable esp w quality of WR's in this draft. I was more making a point he will be long by our third. I would be surprised if he's there for our 2nd rounder that would be hard too pass up.

 

[Kaiser]

Maybe they should just overdraft a guy like Darren Waller and see if they can turn him into a DGB type since they have similar freakish measurable(s). They might have to go 4th to be assured of getting Waller.

I like the idea (maybe not the reality) of a top five pick falling to us because of character stuff they can coach up, but if its not DGB the only type of WR I would really like is a burner that can stretch the defense. I doubt they take a WR or DT in this draft though, but it will be fun to watch.

 

[jnday]

Ya 2nd seems more probable esp w quality of WR's in this draft. I was more making a point he will be long by our third. I would be surprised if he's there for our 2nd rounder that would be hard too pass up.

Yeah, the team/'a second round pick is very late in the round, so some team may take the gamble before then. I am not in favor of drafting a WR , but the talent and value would be hard to pass up.

 

[burmafrd]

Dez was a train wreck. His mom may have been a prostitute, and was definitely a drug dealer.

Worked out OK for us, don't you think?

Dez had nowhere near the record this thug has now. Not remotely comparable.


to me no amount of talent is worth the risk of anyone like this on the team. Take all that value crap and stick it where the sun don't shine.

 

[jnday]

Dez had nowhere near the record this thug has now. Not remotely comparable.


to me no amount of talent is worth the risk of anyone like this on the team. Take all that value crap and stick it where the sun don't shine.

Irvin sure wasn't an angel. Did you want him off the team in the 90's?

 

[Derinyar]

I know they feel very comparable but I still swear that the level of difference between Dez and DGB is pretty high. Dez ran afoul of the NCAA in something that always seemed a little specious. DGB got arrested for burglary and dismissed from a D1 program.

 

[dbonham]

Did he really throw a woman down a flight of stairs? Why are we talking about this guy?

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

Irvin sure wasn't an angel. Did you want him off the team in the 90's?

DGB is no Irvin.

Do we really need to make excuses to continue and make it ok for idiots to be drafted?

There are only a few people, off the top of my head, that I think should be off our board...this idiot is one of them.

 

[Plankton]

Did he really throw a woman down a flight of stairs? Why are we talking about this guy?

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap20...dorial-greenbeckham-allegedly-assaulted-woman

 

[DFWJC]

There are 4-5 WRs this year that could end up being stars. Then there's another 10-12 that could also be very good. Then another group that could make teams and eventually contribute.

It's such a deep class.
There's just no reason for a team to gamble on this guy early on. All it takes is one team...we all know that.

If he drops a loooong ways down (3rd round or further...doubtful) then it might get more interesting.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

There are 4-5 WRs this year that could end up being stars. Then there's another 10-12 that could also be very good. Then another group that could make teams and eventually contribute.

It's such a deep class.
There's just no reason for a team to gamble on this guy early on. All it takes is one team...we all know that.

If he drops a loooong ways down (3rd round or further...doubtful) then it might get more interesting.

I agree. DGB is unique because of his physical attributes but he's not special as a WR and his skills IMO. There are guys who are better WRs in this draft.

I think that it's smart to take a player like this, outside of the 1st round because you have more latitude with player contracts. In the 1st round, it's pretty much slotted and more constrictive. If you take a player like DBG later, I think a team has more control over how the contract is structured.

 

[burmafrd]

Irvin sure wasn't an angel. Did you want him off the team in the 90's?

Sad that you cannot tell the difference between Irvin and this thug.

 

[tyke1doe]

Cowboys are probably a team who could afford to take a player like DGB, and I'm not saying they will or should, but they would be a team who could probably do it. They have a good core of WRs so I think that they could bring in a kid like this and wait for him to develop and by that, what I really mean is grow a brain. The problem with taking him is that you don't really address the need for ST. He has some holes in his game as well. Not a lot of tape on him so you can only go by what you have but he does not appear to be a guy who is going to be a physical receiver. He likes to run go routes but he doesn't like to go over the middle. He is a great deep threat but he doesn't really run good routes. He is sloppy in his route running and he does not lay out or extend for balls. He would have to improve in these areas to be great. Does he have the work ethic? I'm thinking no. If you draft him, I think you do it with the intent that he will probably only ever be a deep threat guy. If you are good with that, then maybe you take a chance. I probably wouldn't but I could see us doing it if he slid.

So you're saying he's another Randy Moss?