Doug Free

[ThreeSportStar80]

There were a couple of plays where Free had me shaking my head but I thought overall he had a solid performance.

 

[tunahelper]

His stats prove we run more to the right since Free has been in the lineup then we do to the left.

You are the only person who thinks you are correct.

Stop making yourself look dumber than we already think you are.

Stay down.

Tell me how 16 runs out 58 towards Free is running more towards his direction?

You could never put me down keyboard toughguy!

 

[The Realist]

No, we haven't. Against Oakland, we ran more often to the right side (8 attempts, including 5 to the right end/tackle) than the left (5 attempts, including 4 to the left end/tackle), with much more success (6.1 ypc to the right side and 9.2 to the right tackle/end, versus 1.2 ypc to the left side and 1.5 to the left end/tackle).

EDIT: And the numbers for the Washington game are similar. We ran more often to the right side (13 attempts, including 11 to the right end/tackle) than the left (10 attempts, including 8 to the left end/tackle), with almost identical success (4.18 ypc to the right, 4.25 ypc to the left).

So for those counting at home, over the last two games, 21 of our runs have gone to the right, versus 15 to the left and 20 to the middle. And we've been pretty efficient running to Free's side, too.

Tell me how 16 runs out 58 towards Free is running more towards his direction?

You could never put me down keyboard toughguy!

There are the numbers again mouth breather.

 

[sago1]

Some considered Colombo to be a future LT when he was drafted; unfortunately for him the knee injury he suffered before he came to the Cowboys limited his mobility & doubt he would ever be considered for LT position. Leonard Davis isn't the best at LT & is much better RG despite his somewhat inconsident play. Seems to be that Doug Free, who we drafted as our future LT & has spent much of his time working out there, is the future for us. He can & should develop his lower body strength so he can handle the rushers he will face there. If he's not the answer at LT, then we'll need to spend big money to sign a LT who can start immediately. Cause starting a rookie LT in 2010 would make me (and I bet Jerry Jones) real uncomfortable.

 

[tunahelper]

There are the numbers again mouth breather.

Since you cannot count here is his original post:

Originally Posted by NinePointOh
It's not my consideration. It's the NFL game book.

http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/200911...ost-playbyplay

1-10-DAL 20 (12:43) 24-M.Barber right tackle to DAL 24 for 4 yards (99-G.Ellis).
1-15-OAK 32 (10:58) 24-M.Barber right tackle to OAK 31 for 1 yard (99-G.Ellis; 93-T.Kelly).
1-10-DAL 20 (5:37) 28-F.Jones right tackle to DAL 28 for 8 yards (77-M.Shaughnessy).
3-1-DAL 20 (7:26) 24-M.Barber right tackle to OAK 48 for 32 yards (91-T.Scott).
2-9-OAK 47 (5:47) 24-M.Barber right tackle to OAK 46 for 1 yard (98-J.Richardson).

http://www.nfl.com/gamecenter/200911...ost-playbyplay

1-10-WAS 40 (10:17) 28-F.Jones right end to WAS 32 for 8 yards (96-C.Griffin; 59-L.Fletcher).
2-2-WAS 32 (9:29) 24-M.Barber right tackle to WAS 24 for 8 yards (59-L.Fletcher; 37-R.Doughty).
2-2-WAS 16 (8:07) 24-M.Barber right tackle to WAS 12 for 4 yards (59-L.Fletcher).
1-10-DAL 24 (10:16) 24-M.Barber right end to DAL 26 for 2 yards (59-L.Fletcher).
1-10-DAL 49 (8:27) 24-M.Barber right tackle to WAS 47 for 4 yards (54-H.Blades).
1-10-DAL 20 (6:06) 28-F.Jones right end to DAL 22 for 2 yards (23-D.Hall).
2-4-DAL 49 (4:05) 28-F.Jones right tackle to WAS 48 for 3 yards (37-R.Doughty).
2-2-WAS 39 (1:59) 24-M.Barber right end pushed ob at WAS 30 for 9 yards (37-R.Doughty).
1-20-WAS 40 (1:49) 24-M.Barber right end pushed ob at WAS 38 for 2 yards (95-C.Wilson). Romo lateralled to Barber.
2-10-WAS 37 (1:46) 24-M.Barber right tackle to WAS 35 for 2 yards (59-L.Fletcher).
3-8-WAS 35 (1:02) 24-M.Barber right end to WAS 33 for 2 yards (30-L.Landry).

Count with me genius that is 16 runs behind Free and a total of 58 run plays. As you can see the running game is being called away from Free.
Nice try!

 

[NinePointOh]

On a related note, Free did a great job clearing the way on Barber's 32-yard run ...

After hitting DE Jay Richardson at the line of scrimmage, Free releases him to Martellus Bennett and heads upfield, where he takes on DE/LB Trevor Scott:

http://i93.***BLOCKED***/albums/l50/ninepointoh/Free32ydrun.png

At this point, there are two players in a position to stop the run for a short gain: Scott (who is tied up by Free, circled in red) and CB Chris Johnson, standing unblocked at the 22 yardline, just below the red circle. Free is going to take out ... both of them.

He takes Scott from one hashmark to the other and shoves him away from the play, then delivers a shoulder to Johnson that stops him in his tracks as Barber races downfield. Scott is eventually the one who makes the tackle, but not for another 30 yards.

 

[tunahelper]

On a related note, Free did a great job clearing the way on Barber's 32-yard run ...

After hitting DE Jay Richardson at the line of scrimmage, Free releases him to Martellus Bennett and heads upfield, where he takes on DE/LB Trevor Scott:

http://i93.***BLOCKED***/albums/l50/ninepointoh/Free32ydrun.png

At this point, there are two players in a position to stop the run for a short gain: Scott (who is tied up by Free, circled in red) and CB Chris Johnson, standing unblocked at the 22 yardline, just below the red circle. Free is going to take out ... both of them.

He takes Scott from one hashmark to the other and shoves him away from the play, then delivers a shoulder to Johnson that stops him in his tracks as Barber races downfield. Scott is eventually the one who makes the tackle, but not for another 30 yards.

He did a nice job on that play. Do have any of the blown assigments, sack, near sacks thanks to Romo and one yard gains pics you can share?

 

[The Realist]

On a related note, Free did a great job clearing the way on Barber's 32-yard run ...

After hitting DE Jay Richardson at the line of scrimmage, Free releases him to Martellus Bennett and heads upfield, where he takes on DE/LB Trevor Scott:

http://i93.***BLOCKED***/albums/l50/ninepointoh/Free32ydrun.png

At this point, there are two players in a position to stop the run for a short gain: Scott (who is tied up by Free, circled in red) and CB Chris Johnson, standing unblocked at the 22 yardline, just below the red circle. Free is going to take out ... both of them.

He takes Scott from one hashmark to the other and shoves him away from the play, then delivers a shoulder to Johnson that stops him in his tracks as Barber races downfield. Scott is eventually the one who makes the tackle, but not for another 30 yards.

Shame on us for arguing with a ******.

90% of the plays have gone away from free. Face it.

They purposely got Free to the 2nd level vs LB's where he he would have a size/strength advantage.

They did that to hide the poor anorexic kid's lake of strength.

 

[tunahelper]

Shame on us for arguing with a ******.

90% of the plays have gone away from free. Face it.

They purposely got Free to the 2nd level vs LB's where he he would have a size/strength advantage.

They did that to hide the poor anorexic kid's lake of strength.

Poor keyboard tough guy cannot respond to my last post WITH FACTS, so I will wait? LMAO!

 

[NinePointOh]

You responded to my original post that stated does not run behind Free. I guessed the run to the left/middle 90% of the time.

Then you attempted to correct me by saying they run 16 out 56 (feel better) total runs are behind Free. You validated my intial point and your attempt to disapprove my assumption that Free doesnt get much movement in the run game was also proven correct. Thanks!

My point continued that the staff does not feel comfortable running his direction, due to his lack of movement in the run game. Your stats confirmed what I was seeing and you failed!

You're deluding yourself.

 

[casmith07]

Nope, those are just the runs that have gone specifically to the right tackle/end, not the entire right side.

It's also out of 56, not 58 -- unless you think Romo scrambling for positive yardage has any bearing on the conversation.

38% have gone to the right side, 36% have gone to the middle, and 26% have gone to the left side. You could have said 62% to the left/middle, but that doesn't really help your case since that encompasses two-thirds of the offensive line and accounts for fewer than two-thirds of our rushing attempts. I could just as easily say 74% have gone to the right/middle.

Unless you have reason to believe there were more of those to the right than to there were the left and middle, it makes no difference. Either way, if we tried to run left, but the back decided that the right end had better lanes, that's hardly an indictment of Free, is it?

Owned.

 

[casmith07]

On a related note, Free did a great job clearing the way on Barber's 32-yard run ...

After hitting DE Jay Richardson at the line of scrimmage, Free releases him to Martellus Bennett and heads upfield, where he takes on DE/LB Trevor Scott:

http://i93.***BLOCKED***/albums/l50/ninepointoh/Free32ydrun.png

At this point, there are two players in a position to stop the run for a short gain: Scott (who is tied up by Free, circled in red) and CB Chris Johnson, standing unblocked at the 22 yardline, just below the red circle. Free is going to take out ... both of them.

He takes Scott from one hashmark to the other and shoves him away from the play, then delivers a shoulder to Johnson that stops him in his tracks as Barber races downfield. Scott is eventually the one who makes the tackle, but not for another 30 yards.

Super-Owned.

 

[tunahelper]

You're deluding yourself.

By your fuzzy math count I could see how you would think that.

 

[tunahelper]

Super-Owned.

Another one of the boys joining in late to try and save face for one of their own?

I can tell you fellas are real close!

 

[The Realist]

Apples to apples comparison.

How man runs at left tackle vs right tackle since free has been starting?

This guy is counting a run up the middle, or at RG as running away from Free.

 

[tunahelper]

Apples to apples comparison.

How man runs at left tackle vs right tackle since free has been starting?

This guy is counting a run up the middle, or at RG as running away from Free.

Hey, its your boyfriends stats dope!

BTW, I never even said Free sucks just think he should play better against yesterday's competition.

 

[casmith07]

Another one of the boys joining in late to try and save face for one of their own?

I can tell you fellas are real close!

No, but you should have the fortitude to admit when you're wrong about a situation, especially when clear evidence is presented to you in the way of not only play-by-play commentary from the NFL stat book, but an actual picture as well as analysis that is, as I have gone back and looked at the tape, factual.

I was merely pointing out that you have been, throughout this argument, serving in the role of "property." The others here have taken complete and total ownership of the argument.

You can still save face, as you like to say, by admitting that you were wrong. Or you could do similar analysis of your own to attempt to refute their claims and present evidence to the contrary. I'm guessing, though, that you will not be able to do so. Also, the gentlemen here will not think less of you for admitting that you were off the mark on this one - I've observed just about every regular poster here and these guys are professionals and mature. If you admit you (sic....edited for an error I noticed) were wrong, they'll likely just let sleeping dogs lie.

All of that being said, I sincerely hope that you prove me wrong and are able to come up with something concrete. Good football discussion when backed by legitimate sources and information makes us all a little bit smarter at the end of the day.

 

[tunahelper]

No, but you should have the fortitude to admit when you're wrong about a situation, especially when clear evidence is presented to you in the way of not only play-by-play commentary from the NFL stat book, but an actual picture as well as analysis that is, as I have gone back and looked at the tape, factual.

I was merely pointing out that you have been, throughout this argument, serving in the role of "property." The others here have taken complete and total ownership of the argument.

You can still save face, as you like to say, by admitting that you were wrong. Or you could do similar analysis of your own to attempt to refute their claims and present evidence to the contrary. I'm guessing, though, that you will not be able to do so.

And I sincerely hope that you prove me wrong. Good football discussion when backed by legitimate sources and information makes us all a little bit smarter at the end of the day.

What did I say that was wrong? Tell me?

 

[casmith07]

What did I say that was wrong? Tell me?

You haven't. That's the problem.

 

[tunahelper]

You haven't. That's the problem.

All you got I guess?