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tunahelper;3105946 said:
All you got I guess?

You clearly didn't read my entire post above. I will afford you the opportunity to read it and then react. Pay close attention to paragraph 3.
 

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tunahelper;3105931 said:
What did I say that was wrong? Tell me?

"Free did not get any movement in the ground game"

"we run to the left/middle 90% of the time the last two games"

And, I'm beginning to think ... "I watched the game"
 

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NinePointOh;3105962 said:
"Free did not get any movement in the ground game"

"we run to the left/middle 90% of the time the last two games"

And, I'm beginning to think ... "I rewatched the game"

Yet your point was we run behind Free? Your stats say 16 runs out 58. My point was the staff is not running behind him and 16-58 say so.
 

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NinePointOh;3105962 said:
"Free did not get any movement in the ground game"

"we run to the left/middle 90% of the time the last two games"

And, I'm beginning to think ... "I watched the game"

I'm starting to think that the third one is the big one.
 

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zrinkill;3105958 said:
This is embarrassing.

He should have followed his hero to Miami.

I am in Charlotte and would love to meet up if you ever get to the area.
 

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casmith07;3105930 said:
No, but you should have the fortitude to admit when you're wrong about a situation, especially when clear evidence is presented to you in the way of not only play-by-play commentary from the NFL stat book, but an actual picture as well as analysis that is, as I have gone back and looked at the tape, factual.

I was merely pointing out that you have been, throughout this argument, serving in the role of "property." The others here have taken complete and total ownership of the argument.

You can still save face, as you like to say, by admitting that you were wrong. Or you could do similar analysis of your own to attempt to refute their claims and present evidence to the contrary. I'm guessing, though, that you will not be able to do so. Also, the gentlemen here will not think less of you for admitting that you were off the mark on this one - I've observed just about every regular poster here and these guys are professionals and mature. If you admit they were wrong, they'll likely just let sleeping dogs lie.

Al of that being said, I sincerely hope that you prove me wrong and are able to come up with something concrete. Good football discussion when backed by legitimate sources and information makes us all a little bit smarter at the end of the day.

I'll admit that I was impressed by the analysis and the pictures. You make a very valid point and I'm delighted that my impressions of Free were supported. Having said that, I would welcome any informed opinions to the contrary. This is why I come here.
 

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If I were him trying to prove my point....

I would compare runs to left tackle vs runs to right tackle.

Padding stats by comparing runs at right tackle vs.........

left tackle, left guard, middle, RG and kneal downs....

I'm positive I could compare every possible type of run vs runs at left tackle and come to the conclusion that we are running away from Flozell.
 

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casmith07;3105967 said:
I'm starting to think that the third one is the big one.

I also stated my 90% was a guess and 73% was shown to be the real number. So I was off by 17%.
 

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tunahelper;3105966 said:
Yet your point was we run behind Free? Your stats say 16 runs out 58. My point was the staff is not running behind him and 16-58 say so.

No, that was not your point at all. Your point(s) was/were that Doug Free played poorly, gave up multiple sacks and got beat multiple times. You were then proven wrong by factual information as well as critical play analysis on a play in which Doug Free not only handled his own assignment, he even went and found and blocked two other guys in order to help spring a 20+ yard run by Marion Barber.

You have been defeated in this argument, and I wish you well in the next. As the original poster, I now am declaring this thread complete. The topic is now the following:

What does your family call the famous side dish on Thanksgiving? Dressing, or stuffing?

We call it dressing. And it's delicious.
 

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casmith07;3105980 said:
No, that was not your point at all. Your point(s) was/were that Doug Free played poorly, gave up multiple sacks and got beat multiple times. You were then proven wrong by factual information as well as critical play analysis on a play in which Doug Free not only handled his own assignment, he even went and found and blocked two other guys in order to help spring a 20+ yard run by Marion Barber.

You have been defeated in this argument, and I wish you well in the next. As the original poster, I now am declaring this thread complete. The topic is now the following:

What does your family call the famous side dish on Thanksgiving? Dressing, or stuffing?

We call it dressing. And it's delicious.

Here is what I said. I am explaining he should play better against the competition. The 90% was later shown to be off by 17%.

I rewatched the game and focused on Free. I noticed one on one Free did not get any movement in the ground game. It explains why we run to the left/middle 90% of the time the last two games.

Also seen him get a penalty, give up a sack and Romo ducked another sure sack as well. Also Free was facing 98 Henderson and 77 Matt Shaughnessy for most of the game. We will see how he plays moving forward and my hope is he does well.
 
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