Doug Pederson anyone?

[Bigrandrn]

I like Doug. Think he's heck of coach.

But what the hell happened to the Jags this year?!

 

[Mark]

You tell me the coach who can win with Jerry. I don't have an answer. I'm left to hope we can catch lightning in a bottle one year.

No one can, as long as Jerry insists on "buying the groceries" (not to mention selecting them)... and being the wearisome, doddering, despotic, media-obsessed ruler of a world which (in his mind) he alone created.

 

[ICP]

Nope

 

[cald0d30s0]

As OC, yes.

 

[csirl]

Andy Reid protege. I think the reason he cant sustain is that he simply copies what he saw Reid doing, but doesnt do it as well as Reid and cant adapt it over time. System coach who brings nothing new.

 

[Hawkeye0202]

I will take him in a heartbeat as OC.......he's from Andy Reid tree

 

[JeffInDC]

Would Petersen be an upgrade over Schottenheimer?

I believe so

 

[Flamma]

If he couldn't get the jaguars to the playoffs, with a number 1 overall pick at QB, and compete what makes you think he could do it here with the Cowboys?

The Jaguars GM didn't stack the team the way the Eagles did.

 

[Redsfan_83]

I wonder if at some point in the future, Shannahan wishes he kept Darnold and traded Purdy

even Lance, lol

 

[blueblood70]

Retread, like a Mike. Might as well bring Mike back if Peterson is the only option.

Most tires are retrace I still don't understand some of y'all don't understand the nature and the business of the NFL apparently I watched these guys get passed around like a carousel to all teams not Jerry Jones this is not Jerry Jones didn't create the word retread you're trying to tell me that Jim Harbaugh is not a retread that man's never even won a Super Bowl in the NFL yeah he's a very good coach he's also older we always say these old open edge can't stay in touch with the NFL they're retreads they shouldn't be hired oh but we want Jim Harbaugh? Vrabel? Retreads all ie most will be retreads..


I mean go look at the list so far around the league the rumors the Chicago Bears have already asked to talk to who Mike McCarthy I thought he was trash I mean I thought he was a retreat alright they also want Ryan they wanna talk to Ryan he's not a retread New England rebels high on their list is he not a retread I mean you guys don't even understand this right go back in 2020 and listen to this same garbage that fans are spewing out their mouth they didn't like the Mike McCarthy hire..

The ironic thing here he was the best head coach hired that year look at his record most of them didn't even make it to year three they were all bad we had people in here saying that Jerry was stupid for not bringing in Myers or even they said they'd rather have rivera over mccarthy you guys were all wrong you guys are almost always wrong.

How do you know for a fact that a guy like Ben Johnson or Aaron Glenn or some of these young guys who be first time head coaches without having all their players coming over with them without having their entire Staffs that are on those teams working that are very highly successful together when you pull them apart are they gonna be successful nobody knows but retreads are normal.

I don't see the problem bringing back older ex coaches because that is what most teams do those are the biggest list they have are those guys are gonna be interviewed first...

But I remember all these hot shots that people around here wanted like Myers and Saban Chip Kelly petrino these guys were really hot in college and they came in here and you know what they were a total failure..

Thinking outside the box is not always gonna workout for you you're taking a risk doing that because you don't know how it's gonna workout so I don't see why 1 is better than the other we don't know how this team's gonna react keeping McCarthy or getting someone like him or just going and starting over with a brand new first time head coach these are all high risk moves they are unknown entities but at least when you use a retread you kinda have a better idea how it's gonna workout and for the Cowboys they hired the best man that was available in 2020 it's all in black and white I mean you can't debate it he has one of the best records in Cowboys history and win percentage he is the only coach still left in the 2020 hires and he's the only one with a hat that kind of success...


So let's be clear even New England Gerard Mayo didn't even last a year I just looked at the list there's a top ten list over the last 10 years of first year head coaches getting fired meaning they weren't right for the job and yet lot of them were new to the job where is head coaching like there is no blueprint people...

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[blueblood70]

The Jaguars GM didn't stack the team the way the Eagles did.

Yeah but at the time the eagles won a Super Bowl with their backup quarterback when Peterson was there he won with Nick Foles I mean that has to at least give him some skins on the wall that he kept that team together and got them on a roll

 

[sjmike]

Most tires are retrace I still don't understand some of y'all don't understand the nature and the business of the NFL apparently I watched these guys get passed around like a carousel to all teams not Jerry Jones this is not Jerry Jones didn't create the word retread you're trying to tell me that Jim Harbaugh is not a retread that man's never even won a Super Bowl in the NFL yeah he's a very good coach he's also older we always say these old open edge can't stay in touch with the NFL they're retreads they shouldn't be hired oh but we want Jim Harbaugh? Vrabel? Retreads all ie most will be retreads..


I mean go look at the list so far around the league the rumors the Chicago Bears have already asked to talk to who Mike McCarthy I thought he was trash I mean I thought he was a retreat alright they also want Ryan they wanna talk to Ryan he's not a retread New England rebels high on their list is he not a retread I mean you guys don't even understand this right go back in 2020 and listen to this same garbage that fans are spewing out their mouth they didn't like the Mike McCarthy hire..

The ironic thing here he was the best head coach hired that year look at his record most of them didn't even make it to year three they were all bad we had people in here saying that Jerry was stupid for not bringing in Myers or even they said they'd rather have rivera over mccarthy you guys were all wrong you guys are almost always wrong.

How do you know for a fact that a guy like Ben Johnson or Aaron Glenn or some of these young guys who be first time head coaches without having all their players coming over with them without having their entire Staffs that are on those teams working that are very highly successful together when you pull them apart are they gonna be successful nobody knows but retreads are normal.

I don't see the problem bringing back older ex coaches because that is what most teams do those are the biggest list they have are those guys are gonna be interviewed first...

But I remember all these hot shots that people around here wanted like Myers and Saban Chip Kelly petrino these guys were really hot in college and they came in here and you know what they were a total failure..

Thinking outside the box is not always gonna workout for you you're taking a risk doing that because you don't know how it's gonna workout so I don't see why 1 is better than the other we don't know how this team's gonna react keeping McCarthy or getting someone like him or just going and starting over with a brand new first time head coach these are all high risk moves they are unknown entities but at least when you use a retread you kinda have a better idea how it's gonna workout and for the Cowboys they hired the best man that was available in 2020 it's all in black and white I mean you can't debate it he has one of the best records in Cowboys history and win percentage he is the only coach still left in the 2020 hires and he's the only one with a hat that kind of success...


So let's be clear even New England Gerard Mayo didn't even last a year I just looked at the list there's a top ten list over the last 10 years of first year head coaches getting fired meaning they weren't right for the job and yet lot of them were new to the job where is head coaching like there is no blueprint people...

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I may be dense so what are you advocating? A retread or a fresh prospect that has never been a head coach in the NFL?

 

[FVSTONE]

Another Super Bowl winning coach is now on the market. Wouldnt that irk Iggle fans if he were to come here and win a Super Bowl? Great offensive mind, QB whisperer, may help straighten Dak out. What say you?

HELL NO! Peterson had some talent to work with in Jacksonville and what did he do with it????????? NOTHING!!!!!!!!!!

 

[blueblood70]

I may be dense so what are you advocating? A retread or a fresh prospect that has never been a head coach in the NFL?

I'm not advocating anything I have 0 control of the fan where this is going and I really don't care we're just gonna watch anyway next year there is no choice we're not agents we're not players we're not owners we're not GM's we have 0 control over this but I'm saying that there is no blueprint teams all over the league it's a mixed bag but it leans heavily towards the retread..

I was merely pointing out the hypocrisy because people are screaming we should've got Harbaugh we should have fired Mike McCarthy really 'cause Harbaugh is the definition of an older retreat and by the way has never won an actual Super Bowl he's done great things in the league but he's never won a Super Bowl I mean sure he did nice thing getting the chargers into the playoffs but is that enough Dan Quinn's done that Dan Quinn's been to a Super Bowl and lost it but here he was part of a defense that gave up a ton of yards and a ton of points all throughout the season to the better teams and yet he got a job he was a retread...

So now I'm not advocating anything I'm just stating my opinion I see it happening all over you all act like this is a Jerry Jones thing using X older veteran coaches and that's not the truth the truth is lots of teams still do it look at the list that the bears and The Jets so far have put out and that New England reports they might be high on the list of bringing Vrabel back..

All definitions of retreads you all have made the word retread bad when really you're just hiring a veteran coach there aren't many options to go fresh when you go fresh you could end up losing I pointed out a whole bunch of ex superstar head coaches from the college ranks failed in the NFL and failed hard by the way some packed up and left in the middle of the night they were so embarrassed..lol

 

[Cmac]

OP talks about Dak as if he's not a decade into his career.

MountaneerCowboy.....but you have 'em beat by a landslide, talking about Dak, even while on IR.

 

[Flamma]

Yeah but at the time the eagles won a Super Bowl with their backup quarterback when Peterson was there he won with Nick Foles I mean that has to at least give him some skins on the wall that he kept that team together and got them on a roll

That is a very good point. Still won without your starting QB. I'm always for a proven commodity over a random coordinator. Way more Gannon's and Daboll's out there than there are successful stories.

 

[blueblood70]

That is a very good point. Still won without your starting QB. I'm always for a proven commodity over a random coordinator. Way more Gannon's and Daboll's out there than there are successful stories.

Exactly lots of one and done guys although you know what at this point I'm indifferent whoever they keep or fire or hire we have no control over....Jerod Mayo axed after one and done season and that not rare of a list. They somehow are being commended for firing this guy right away why we haven't fired Mike McCarthy but shouldn't they be completely blasted for hiring him too quickly in the first place? Is admitting a mistake make you somehow admirable compared to Jerry taking his time I mean in 2020 Mike McCarthy it turned out was the best hire out of all the other head coaches hired that year he has the best record by far the best choice even though a lot of people around here didn't like it he was by far the best choice go look there's a whole list of 2020 head coaches they all fail within the first three years they didn't get close to what his record was here working with Jerry Jones as well that has to be noted he gets bonus points for that right?

And I imagine a lot of these guys had regular GMs and regular non meddling owners and somehow they got it wrong...

 

[Flamma]

Exactly lots of one and done guys although you know what at this point I'm indifferent whoever they keep or fire or hire we have no control over....Jerod Mayo axed after one and done season and that not rare of a list. They somehow are being commended for firing this guy right away why we haven't fired Mike McCarthy but shouldn't they be completely blasted for hiring him too quickly in the first place? Is admitting a mistake make you somehow admirable compared to Jerry taking his time I mean in 2020 Mike McCarthy it turned out was the best hire out of all the other head coaches hired that year he has the best record by far the best choice even though a lot of people around here didn't like it he was by far the best choice go look there's a whole list of 2020 head coaches they all fail within the first three years they didn't get close to what his record was here working with Jerry Jones as well that has to be noted he gets bonus points for that right?

And I imagine a lot of these guys had regular GMs and regular non meddling owners and somehow they got it wrong...

I agree with you. I don't dislike McCarthy. The only problem I have with him is in late game situations where he seems to have no situational awareness. For as long as he has been a coach, you'd think he'd have that figured out. The last game of the season against Washington showed one really good example of *******ery and cost us the game. A lot of times he gets away with it because we end up winning. Just not this week.

 

[blueblood70]

I agree with you. I don't dislike McCarthy. The only problem I have with him is in late game situations where he seems to have no situational awareness. For as long as he has been a coach, you'd think he'd have that figured out. The last game of the season against Washington showed one really good example of *******ery and cost us the game. A lot of times he gets away with it because we end up winning. Just not this week.

Well of course you have to separate though the head coach from the offensive coordinator there's no way i want him back as the OC.. Maybe there's some kind of conditions Mike McCarthy they're discussing what could have been done better that's why they're taking their time maybe they're gonna decide on firing schottenheimer and hiring a whole new offensive staff including a new play caller and then Mike McCarthy can return in his very familiar role is just the head coach...

But on the Washington game did we really want him to win that game I mean we literally went in there with the white flag up I mean playing Trey Lance and more backups than we have all year and we almost beat A-Team needing a win for a better spot in the playoffs and they needed the last play at the end of the game to do so and kudos to Marcus Mariota because he was throwing Dimes and Deron bland is being fried for having some tight coverage on maclaurin all day and they just made the plays but i thought we were happy they lost the game..

But if you're talking about the decisions with the play calling of course I don't think his decision as a head coach are that different than most coaches people just think they are but we watch it all over the league I mean hell the lions get away with that stuff all the time or sometimes they're criticized for it literally the game that we had sometimes the head coach does against the green things and Dan Campbell is one of those guys and we see it all around the league people being questioned how about Raheem Morris getting fried in Atlanta it happens...

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

MountaneerCowboy.....but you have 'em beat by a landslide, talking about Dak, even while on IR.

You still believe in him, don’t ya?