Drafting a QB

dbair1967

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JackMagist said:
We can only hope that they would NOT play the young QB until they have had a chance to develop and get seasoned a bit first.

and if they did draft a QB high and play them from day one, if he didnt look like Aikman or Marino in his prime from snap #1 then the fickle-ites would be clamoring for the likes of Seneca Wallace or Quincy Carter

:rolleyes:

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JackMagist said:
Dallas used to go through a lot of 3rd string QBs but Landry always seemed to find a #2 guy and stick with him until his current starter retired then the #2 guys were ready to step right into the starting role on day one. Merideth backed up LeBaron, Morton backed up Merideth, Staubach backed up Morton and White backed up Staubach; it wasn't until he got away from that formula in the mid 80s that our QB situation went down the tubes.

We haven't had a good developmental QB on our team since Danny White; Aikman was thrown into the fire as a rookie as has been every young QB we have brought in since Aikman retired until now with Romo and Henson. Personally I am glad to see Parcells sticking with these young developmental QBs behind the vets he is bringing in, one of them will turn into our next franchise QB when Bledsoe retires.

Go ahead and draft a new QB every year is you like but don’t give up on the developmental guys you have just because you have a new toy. That is what bothers me about this drafting a new QB every year you get into this flavor of the week QB crap if you are not careful.

Good post

Mr Landry also liked having good competition for his developmental QB. That insured him of having a backup QB in place and ready to step in when the need arose.

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Maybe the question is how do these Bengals keep doing it year after year? :)
 

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Montana did prety good in KC considering he did not have HALF the team that he had in SF. That and pretty much the whole team stood around waiting for him to pull their chestnuts out of the fire every game. At the time even the KC homers were saying" we got the QB, but not much else!!!".
 

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Rack said:
Two words: System Quarterback


It's not so much the players, as it is the system. Joe Montana and Steve Young are good examples of system QBs, although Montana could of played well in any system, he excelled in the WCO. Young was nothing until he played in the WCO.

When did Young play in anything but the WCO? In the USFL? C'mon, Young's best years wered spent backing up Montana. He was nothing until Montana retired, you mean. Then he ws HOF.

Must have been that WCO system that made Steve Young.
 

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CrazyCowboy said:
This Cassel kid looked awesome! How in the heck does New England keep finding these QB's..........Brady.....now Cassel in the lower rounds. Cassel first TD pass since high school? Give me a break.......

Man, our Cowboys have got to figure this QB of the future gig out soon!

Wasn't that Bledsoe, Brady, and Cassel?

We got a great QB!
 

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When did Young play in anything but the WCO? In the USFL? C'mon, Young's best years wered spent backing up Montana. He was nothing until Montana retired, you mean. Then he ws HOF.

Must have been that WCO system that made Steve Young.
Young bombed in Tampa Bay before being picked up by SF and going into the WCO. So yeah, maybe it was the WCO that made Steve Young.
 

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JackMagist said:
Young bombed in Tampa Bay before being picked up by SF and going into the WCO. So yeah, maybe it was the WCO that made Steve Young.

Although, I have no doubt that a system can bring out the best in a player, you still need legitimate skills to run the WCO, put up crazy accuracy numbers and win a Super Bowl.

People can dismiss Young all they want, but he was a darn good QB (doesn't mean I like him, but I'll give credit where credit is due).

Aikman, for example, probably wouldn't have flourished in a WCO. The timing based Coryell offense clicked for him and his skills. Brady probably wouldn't do as well in a Coryell/Turner offense, but is good at the offense they run in NE. Rich Gannon never really did much until he found a WCO suited to his skills. So, maybe the success of their scouting and drafting of QBs comes from saying "Hey, this guy fits what we want to do."

Part of what makes a successful team is either adapting your schemes to fit your talent or finding talent to fit your scheme. I've seen a mix of both from Parcells.
 

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fortdick said:
Wasn't that Bledsoe, Brady, and Cassel?

We got a great QB!

Bledsoe was the #1 pick in the draft, therefore the point I was trying to make is the fact that the Pats keep finding these great QB's in the late rounds......although, of course the book is still open on Cassel--but the 1st chapter is the start of an exciting story!
 

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dbair1967 said:
considering he had hardly ever played he did ok, but he threw several balls that were dropped by Bengal defenders

David

Funny how that gets overlooked because he is Tom Brady. Only TD's get all the talk, not Brady's would be INT's. :rolleyes:
 

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Funny how that gets overlooked because he is Tom Brady. Only TD's get all the talk, not Brady's would be INT's

Brady didn't play, they're talking about Cassel.
 

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JackMagist said:
Young bombed in Tampa Bay before being picked up by SF and going into the WCO. So yeah, maybe it was the WCO that made Steve Young.

Tampa Bay???????

God himself would have had a tough seaosn with that team! JM, I know you remember the day! Some of these youngsters don't remember when the Bucs were the NY Mets of football. Please don't use the arguement he didn't succeed in Tampa Bay, so therefor it was only the system that made him great.
 
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