Drafting QBs in the first round

[reddyuta]

Again, even looking at Andrew Luck, he isn't as good as he was advertised to be, not yet at least and that is 4 years in.

OMG.i rest my case your honor.

 

[Galian Beast]

The Cowboys have shown recently that they are arent going reach for a player just because of need. They arent going to take a Christian Ponder or a Jake Locker at #4 just to take a QB.

If they evaluate Lynch and Goff and rate them as top 5 picks ( and there is a good chance they will) there is a no reason for them not to draft them

Cowboys just reached for Claiborne, and Escobar, and might have reached for Lawrence.

 

[Hardline]

I'll worry about Romo's replacement the day he announces his retirement. Until then the goal is to get as much talent "ON" the field while he is playing.

 

[JW82]

And out of 56 qbs that have started superbowls 28 of them were picked in the first round. That tells me that is your best bet by a mile.

 

[Galian Beast]

OMG.i rest my case your honor.

Andrew Luck is 3-3 in the post season, and his team just went 8-8 with him being injured for much of the year.

He has not won a super bowl and he is a free agent in 2017.

 

[darthseinfeld]

Cowboys just reached for Claiborne, and Escobar, and might have reached for Lawrence.

Claiborne wasn't a reach. He was a consensus top 5 pick. Escobar was rated as a second rounder. Lawrence was rated as a late first, early 2nd. None of those were " reaches"

 

[MarkP88]

Ryan and Flacco are pretty good in their own right, too.

The jury is still out on Bortles and Bridgewater, but both made huge strides this year. Bortles looked dominate at times with no weapons. Tannehill has shown flashes too, he just needs to be more consistent.

I get what you're saying though and don't completely disagree. I really don't trust this staff to get the most out of any player regardless of position or spot picked. That is the biggest problem. I would rather spend that first on someone who looks ready to play than trust this staff to teach and train a young quarterback how to be a pro.

Flacco has won a Super Bowl, for Pete's sake. He and Ryan are both good players. If you told me we could get a player of their caliber at #4, I'd be more than happy with it.

The Cowboys have shown recently that they are arent going reach for a player just because of need. They arent going to take a Christian Ponder or a Jake Locker at #4 just to take a QB.

If they evaluate Lynch and Goff and rate them as top 5 picks ( and there is a good chance they will) there is a no reason for them not to draft them

Exactly.

 

[JW82]

I'll worry about Romo's replacement the day he announces his retirement. Until then the goal is to get as much talent "ON" the field while he is playing.

That is what keeps the boys a 500 team for 20 years. That worked fantastic when Troy was done!

 

[Clove]

Haha, and drafting a QB that will be on the bench for two or three years will be our way to the promised land?

What's your plan to get us to a Super bowl? Anything beyond finding a franchise QB to replace the fragile Romo is stupidity, so I guess you have no legitimate plan.

 

[reddyuta]

Andrew Luck is 3-3 in the post season, and his team just went 8-8 with him being injured for much of the year.

He has not won a super bowl and he is a free agent in 2017.

what do you think about Romo,i am genuinely curious now.

 

[Manwiththeplan]

Claiborne wasn't a reach. He was a consensus top 5 pick. Escobar was rated as a second rounder. Lawrence was rated as a late first, early 2nd. None of those were " reaches"

yea, reach and bust are not the same thing. for example, ryan leaf was a bust, not a reach.

 

[Clove]

How many of these teams have won super bowls because they drafted a QB in RD1?

How long has it been man? 20 years? How much longer shall we wait? In your world, we'll go another decade or two. I'll be in my late sixties.

 

[Galian Beast]

And out of 56 qbs that have started superbowls 28 of them were picked in the first round. That tells me that is your best bet by a mile.

And how many QBs have been drafted in the 1st round?

In April this was written

"To get an idea, we looked back at the 45 quarterbacks chosen in the first round over the previous 16 drafts - starting with the return of the Cleveland Browns in 1999.

• 17 of these quarterbacks (38 percent) have won a playoff game.
• 16 of the 45 (36 percent) have winning records as starters during the regular season.
• The career passer ratings for only a half-dozen of these quarterbacks is high enough to be ranked in the top half of the league last year."

 

[Galian Beast]

Claiborne wasn't a reach. He was a consensus top 5 pick. Escobar was rated as a second rounder. Lawrence was rated as a late first, early 2nd. None of those were " reaches"

We traded up to get him. It wasn't just the pick we used, it was what we paid to get to it.

I don't recall Escobar being rated as a 2nd rounder.

We also traded up to get Lawrence.

 

[StarBoyz83]

Guarantee dallas doesn't go qb in the first 3 rounds.

 

[Clove]

And how many QBs have been drafted in the 1st round?

In April this was written

"To get an idea, we looked back at the 45 quarterbacks chosen in the first round over the previous 16 drafts - starting with the return of the Cleveland Browns in 1999.

• 17 of these quarterbacks (38 percent) have won a playoff game.
• 16 of the 45 (36 percent) have winning records as starters during the regular season.
• The career passer ratings for only a half-dozen of these quarterbacks is high enough to be ranked in the top half of the league last year."

No one cares about those stats, we need a QB 1st round. If it doesn't work out, then we look at 1st round again. I'm not down with fooling around with this position. Romo is a nice QB, but we should have done what was necessary to draft a 1st round QB earlier and if Romo should beat him out, so be it. It's time...

 

[Hardline]

That is what keeps the boys a 500 team for 20 years. That worked fantastic when Troy was done!

No. That's not what kept the Cowboys at 500.
It's actually been lack of talent In other positions as well.

 

[Galian Beast]

what do you think about Romo,i am genuinely curious now.

You're going to have to be more specific.

 

[MikeT22]

Ridiculous because you weren't paying attention, too busy trying to put together a straw man.

I'm not saying you can't or shouldn't draft a QB in the first round, what I am saying is that I wouldn't reach for a QB just because you think you need a backup or to replace Romo in a few years. THAT'S ridiculous.

I wouldn't want to reach either. I'd only take Goff or Lynch if we think they are good enough to be a franchise QB for us eventually. If that's not the case then I'd hope we look in another direction in round 1.

 

[Galian Beast]

No one cares about those stats, we need a QB 1st round. If it doesn't work out, then we look at 1st round again. I'm not down with fooling around with this position. Romo is a nice QB, but we should have done what was necessary to draft a 1st round QB earlier and if Romo should beat him out, so be it. It's time...

That's exactly how you wreck teams. Especially while you already have a franchise QB at the helm.