Drop percentage

[DMOB]

With the hand injury I can see the drops on the short routes cause the ball is zipped in there, but on the deep routes...come on he needs to reel them in. Also, this injury may be the reason why he does not do quick slants or even comebacks, but then again he handles the wr screens just fine...HELL I don't know its TO!!!!

 

[AdamJT13]

Owens - 144 passes, 17 drops - 11.8%
Jackson - 112 passes, 11 drops - 9.8%
A. Johnson - 157 passes, 11 drops - 7.0%
Williamson - 76 passes, 11 drops - 14.5%
Smith - 131 passes, 10 drops - 7.6%
R. Brown - 92 passes, 9 drops - 9.8%
B. Franks - 52 passes, 8 drops - 15.4%
Henderson - 50 passes, 8 drops - 16%
Moss - 97 passes, 8 drops - 8.2%
McMichael - 88 passes, 8 drops - 9.1%
Reggie Williams - 82 passes, 8 drops - 9.8%

Here are the players with the highest drop percentage this season (minimum 30 passes) --


1. Devery Henderson (NO) -- 50 targets, 8 drops = 16.00 percent
2. Dennis Northcutt (Cle) -- 45 targets, 7 drops = 15.56 percent
3. Bubba Franks (GB) -- 52 targets, 8 drops = 15.38 percent
4. Troy Williamson (Min) -- 76 targets, 11 drops = 14.47 percent
5. Mack Strong (Sea) -- 42 targets, 6 drops = 14.29 percent
6. Derek Hagan (Mia) -- 36 targets, 5 drops = 13.89 percent
7. Vernon Davis (SF) -- 38 targets, 5 drops = 13.16 percent
8. David Tyree (NYG) -- 31 targets, 4 drops = 12.90 percent
9. Roddy White (Atl) -- 56 targets, 7 drops = 12.50 percent
10. Ahman Green (GB) -- 59 targets, 7 drops = 11.86 percent
11. Terrell Owens (Dal) -- 144 targets, 17 drops = 11.81 percent
12. DeShaun Foster (Car) -- 43 targets, 5 drops = 11.63 percent
13. Nate Burleson (Sea) -- 35 targets, 4 drops = 11.43 percent
14. Mike Alstott (TB) -- 37 targets, 4 drops = 10.81 percent
15. Brandon Jones (Ten) -- 50 targets, 5 drops = 10.00 percent
16. Reggie Brown (Phi) -- 91 targets, 9 drops = 9.89 percent
17. Darrell Jackson (Sea) -- 112 targets, 11 drops = 9.82 percent
18. Reggie Williams (Jac) -- 83 targets, 8 drops = 9.64 percent
19. Tim Carter (NYG) -- 42 targets, 4 drops = 9.52 percent
20. Jerramy Stevens (Sea) -- 42 targets, 4 drops = 9.52 percent
21. Courtney Anderson (Oak) -- 43 targets, 4 drops = 9.30 percent
22. Randy McMichael (Mia) -- 88 targets, 8 drops = 9.09 percent
23. Daniel Graham (NE) -- 33 targets, 3 drops = 9.09 percent
24. Sammy Morris (Mia) -- 34 targets, 3 drops = 8.82 percent
25. Michael Pittman (TB) -- 69 targets, 6 drops = 8.70 percent
26. Hank Baskett (Phi) -- 35 targets, 3 drops = 8.57 percent
27. George Wrighster (Jac) -- 59 targets, 5 drops = 8.47 percent
28. David Martin (GB) -- 36 targets, 3 drops = 8.33 percent
29. Deuce McAllister (NO) -- 36 targets, 3 drops = 8.33 percent
30. Randy Moss (Oak) -- 97 targets, 8 drops = 8.25 percent
31. Joe Horn (NO) -- 61 targets, 5 drops = 8.20 percent
32. Larry Johnson (KC) -- 61 targets, 5 drops = 8.20 percent
33. Robert Royal (Buf) -- 37 targets, 3 drops = 8.11 percent

 

[superpunk]

Nice list Adam. I can't believe Reggie Bush isn't up there.

 

[alancdc]

Owens - 144 passes, 17 drops - 11.8%
Jackson - 112 passes, 11 drops - 9.8%
A. Johnson - 157 passes, 11 drops - 7.0%
Williamson - 76 passes, 11 drops - 14.5%
Smith - 131 passes, 10 drops - 7.6%
R. Brown - 92 passes, 9 drops - 9.8%
B. Franks - 52 passes, 8 drops - 15.4%
Henderson - 50 passes, 8 drops - 16%
Moss - 97 passes, 8 drops - 8.2%
McMichael - 88 passes, 8 drops - 9.1%
Reggie Williams - 82 passes, 8 drops - 9.8%


Just thought it was interesting that TO's drop percentage isn't far out of line with any other WRs that have been targeted alot and have a little problem with dropsies. I don't know that any of them have a hand problem, either. I can't excuse the critical drops, because he really ought to be clutch, but his drop percentage isn't fantastically bad, as it's made out to be.

For me it is more WHEN he has his drops. Big plays. Washington comes to mind, Giants 4th down, Eagles,..... Having said that he has made some really nice catches as well. I don't blame TO for where we are, but he has had some significant untimely drops.

 

[burmafrd]

Looking at the drop list its no suprise a fair number of RBs are on it. Interesting that by a large margin TO has had more passes sent his way then any of the others. Do you have a link to that data? I would like to see how many passes were CAUGHT vs TARGETED minus drops.

 

[superpunk]

Looking at the drop list its no suprise a fair number of RBs are on it. Interesting that by a large margin TO has had more passes sent his way then any of the others. Do you have a link to that data? I would like to see how many passes were CAUGHT vs TARGETED minus drops.

http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/wr.php

There's FO's WR rankings. The catch percentage is on the far right.

 

[burmafrd]

thanks.

 

[burmafrd]

Looking at the list, its clear that a TOP WR should be catching at least 65% of passes thrown at him. HOWEVER, that depends also on how good the QB is at throwing the ball so the WR can get at it. Most of the top 15 have very good throwing QBs. So that evens out. ALso most are on winning or at least contending teams- except for the two guys at Detroit and fitzgerald from Arizona. So that pretty much evens out as well. TO would have needed to have caught 15 more passes to beat that mark . So even if he had had no drops he would be barely at that level. Wonder what his career catch% is?

 

[LatinMind]

Looking at the list, its clear that a TOP WR should be catching at least 65% of passes thrown at him. HOWEVER, that depends also on how good the QB is at throwing the ball so the WR can get at it. Most of the top 15 have very good throwing QBs. So that evens out. ALso most are on winning or at least contending teams- except for the two guys at Detroit and fitzgerald from Arizona. So that pretty much evens out as well. TO would have needed to have caught 15 more passes to beat that mark . So even if he had had no drops he would be barely at that level. Wonder what his career catch% is?

probably the same that it is this yr. maybe a little higher. he's always had the drop issue. he's always taken his eye off the ball looking up to make a play before he has the ball.

 

[alancdc]

t.o. has always dropped alot of balls. thats some interesting stuff when you see guys who do half what t.o. does drop a higher pct.i wonder if t.o. is far off of his normal amount of drops? having said that it has been a bigger deal with the drops because of when the drops have come.

I agree with the timing of the drops. Theother thing is, I always heard that TO had drops during a season, but I seriously don't remember ever seeing his drops on Sports Center? How many times have they shown that Skins drop? He very well may have dropped some other perfect passes in his career, but I just don't remember seeing them. It must be Americas Team!

 

[Hunter71]

These lists aren't accurate and don't paint a clear picture about this issue...

You have a delta of nearly 70 catches, between what he caught and thrown in his direction, that people are NOW suggesting here is a function of "misfiring", bad routes, etc. by TO, Romo, Bledsoe, etc`.

So to look at the total 144 and bas the drops off of that number is incorrect as there are too many variables involved...

In order to minimize the errors and get as much of an accurate picture as possible, you need to take the total catches, 79, plus the drops, 17, for the total number and then determine drops based off catches that were CATCHABLE...

Most, if not all, of the nearly 70 passes included in the 144 that were NOT drops, were not even catchable...

 

[Chocolate Lab]

I'm not too comforted that T.O. drops slightly fewer than a guy like Troy Williamson, whose hands are so bad that he's being called a major bust and is about ready to be run out of town.

Looking at Adam's list, T.O. is dropping more balls, percentage-wise, than noted stonehands like Jerramy Stevens and Tim Carter. Tim Frigging Carter!

 

[burmafrd]

But lets be honest- his injuries have got to have some effect on his catching the ball. Just a question of how much.

 

[Hunter71]

No doubt they do...

You just can't quantify the effect on the number...

That's why looking at the total number of passes thrown his way, 144, is not a useful basis for determining his drops...

Think about how many passes you saw in a game that went OB and over TO's head...

Probably 2 or 3 a game...

 

[Shotgun Dave]

No doubt they do...

You just can't quantify the effect on the number...

That's why looking at the total number of passes thrown his way, 144, is not a useful basis for determining his drops...

Think about how many passes you saw in a game that went OB and over TO's head...

Probably 2 or 3 a game...

Yes, but passes that went OB or over TO's head (or were otherwise uncatchable) are NOT included in the dropped balls total. These were balls that, more or less, hit him in the hands.

 

[Hunter71]

Right...

That's my point...

The 144 number that people use reflects ALL the passed thrown in his direction...

My argument is that you can't use those numbers to get a true gauge of his drops...

You take his catches, 79, plus his drops, 17, for a total of 96 passes that were "catchable"...

From there, the % of dropped, catchable passes, is 17.7%...

Again, taking OUT the passes that weren't even close to be catchable yet were part of the 144 number...

 

[WV Cowboy]

Owens has caught 12 TD's this season, with at least two games to go.

14 is the single season record for any receiver in the HISTORY OF THE DALLAS COWBOYS !! - - that's 46 seasons !!

How many drops did our leading receiver have each of those years ?

How many drops did the receiver who caught 14 have ? (clark?)

Nobody mentions drops unless they are talking about Owens, ... imagine that.

Some of you just need to accept the fact that Owens is a Cowboy even if you aren't happy about that.

We all know who you are.

I sure don't know for sure, but I would guess he will be here next year as well.

Talk about the defense, or the O-line if you want to actually discuss something of merit concerning the Cowboys.

See if you can go one day without bashing one of our players.

 

[Dave_in-NC]

Owens has caught 12 TD's this season, with at least two games to go.

14 is the single season record for any receiver in the HISTORY OF THE DALLAS COWBOYS !! - - that's 46 seasons !!

How many drops did our leading receiver have each of those years ?

How many drops did the receiver who caught 14 have ? (clark?)

Nobody mentions drops unless they are talking about Owens, ... imagine that.

Some of you just need to accept the fact that Owens is a Cowboy even if you aren't happy about that.

We all know who you are.

I sure don't know for sure, but I would guess he will be here next year as well.

Talk about the defense, or the O-line if you want to actually discuss something of merit concerning the Cowboys.

See if you can go one day without bashing one of our players.[/QUOTE


Viny broke records too.

 

[AdamJT13]

Wonder what his career catch% is?

795 out of 1,334 = 59.6 percent

 

[Shotgun Dave]

See if you can go one day without bashing one of our players.

TO is a cancer.

Darnit. I guess I can't.