Dwyane Wade, Chris Bosh, and Udonis Haslem all opt out

[ABQCOWBOY]

various:
yes, diaw and mills were part of the organization.
they were never part of any other.
they were never free agents since they agreed to deals before free agency truly began... as everyone fully expected them too.
mills was injured before he signed and thus even less risk to leave.
diaw was 32 and got paid well.
neither is a great move but it is a typical spurs move.

the biggest move they made was the pop extension that was just announced.
that's far bigger than mills or diaw.

cory joseph played 87 minutes.... ALL playoffs. so get out of here with any nonsense about him.
plenty of spares have made A play.

the spurs lack quality guard depth. most teams do but most teams dont have their top 3 guys with serious injury concerns entering the year.

the spurs are a good org to be sure, but lets not be daft and homer out.
they have won one title the past 6 years, twice were out in the 1st round over the same period.
they arent the lebron heat with two titles and two finals losses over 4 years.

I think it's good that SA was able to keep Mills and Diaw. If nothing else, it provides stability but I don't think it's better then what some other's have done in FA. I do agree thou, extended Pop was huge for them. That IS one of the biggest moves in the NBA IMO.

 

[Rockport]

I think it's good that SA was able to keep Mills and Diaw. If nothing else, it provides stability but I don't think it's better then what some other's have done in FA. I do agree thou, extended Pop was huge for them. That IS one of the biggest moves in the NBA IMO.

Yes, that was huge. I don't know of any other coach who can, and does on a regular basis, get on his "superstar players" like Pop can. His resigning also is an indication of how he feels about the young guns on the team going forward.

 

[burmafrd]

I love the spurs homers spurting all over the place when they get upset. So much fun to watch.

 

[jterrell]

Spurs have probably the best point guard depth in the league with Parker, Mills and Joseph. Again, you're exposing your ignorance or you're just too proud or stubborn to admit you're wrong. So you must be a fan of some other team. Basketball people know that the Spurs play the right way, run their organization the right way and it's resulted in 5 NBA championships under the current leadership. All that in a small market town like San Antonio.

you are about 1 post from going on ignore and too homeristic to tlak bball with.

Parker and Mills IF healthy is a top notch back court duo.
Cory Joseph is non-existent in any way. He is a developmental kid and I've seen him play since high school at Findlay Prep.
He was part of a very down UT team.
BUT Parker and Mills are NOT HEALTHY.
Mills is a rising young star but he is out for 6-7 months. That is totally out. This season is basically a wash for him. He might make it back late but won't be anywhere near NBA shape. He is not scheduled to even begin even cursory work until January or February.

 

[jterrell]

I think it's good that SA was able to keep Mills and Diaw. If nothing else, it provides stability but I don't think it's better then what some other's have done in FA. I do agree thou, extended Pop was huge for them. That IS one of the biggest moves in the NBA IMO.

Very correct.
Pop extension was actually huge.
Diaw and Mills were standard depth re-signings virtually any team in basketball makes.

My main point remains San Antonio will very likely fail next season unless they ADD talent they did not possess in 2013/14 to the roster.
Especially given the newly resigned Mills is out for 6-7 months and instead of the large step forward he may have made will now be unavailable for much of the year.

As a Mavs fan I certainly hope they stay pat. I'd love to play them again in the playoffs with that same roster while we upgrade in Dallas.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Very correct.
Pop extension was actually huge.
Diaw and Mills were standard depth re-signings virtually any team in basketball makes.

My main point remains San Antonio will very likely fail next season unless they ADD talent they did not possess in 2013/14 to the roster.
Especially given the newly resigned Mills is out for 6-7 months and instead of the large step forward he may have made will now be unavailable for much of the year.

As a Mavs fan I certainly hope they stay pat. I'd love to play them again in the playoffs with that same roster while we upgrade in Dallas.

I tend to agree, if only for the reason that it's so tough for any team to repeat. You add the age factors in and the fact that Duncan is not getting any younger (Going into his 17th season I think) and it's just that much more difficult. When Duncan starts to decline more then he already has, SA is going to have difficulty and it's just a matter of time before that happens. The cards are definitely stacked against them IMO but they are a fundamentally good team. See what happens.

 

[bounce]

I love the spurs homers spurting all over the place when they get upset. So much fun to watch.

Who's upset?

 

[Rockport]

you are about 1 post from going on ignore and too homeristic to tlak bball with.

Parker and Mills IF healthy is a top notch back court duo.
Cory Joseph is non-existent in any way. He is a developmental kid and I've seen him play since high school at Findlay Prep.
He was part of a very down UT team.
BUT Parker and Mills are NOT HEALTHY.
Mills is a rising young star but he is out for 6-7 months. That is totally out. This season is basically a wash for him. He might make it back late but won't be anywhere near NBA shape. He is not scheduled to even begin even cursory work until January or February.

Glad you feel that way. Hope the rest of the NBA feels the same.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

I wonder just how much the way the Heat lost to San Antonio is effecting how James is doing this? I feel like James really feels like the Heat might be done. It's hard to imagine that but I think it might be true. Getting beat down by a team you beat the year before might be telling. If you look at that series, SA really did dominate the Heat and to be honest, it could easily have been a sweep.

 

[Rockport]

I wonder just how much the way the Heat lost to San Antonio is effecting how James is doing this? I feel like James really feels like the Heat might be done. It's hard to imagine that but I think it might be true. Getting beat down by a team you beat the year before might be telling. If you look at that series, SA really did dominate the Heat and to be honest, it could easily have been a sweep.

Biggest beat down in NBA Finals history. Because of salary cap issues, the Heat had no depth. Add that to the fact that Wade is just a shell of himself and the writing was on the wall. The Heat would've never made the Finals if they were in the West.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

So, here's an odd question. What happens to NBA draft picks if the teams that drafted them can't afford to sign them? Let's say the Rockets get Bosh. They already have Harden and Dwight signed to big contracts. If they get Bosh on a Max deal, they will have to move some guys, which they can do, but one of those guys could be Capela, their 1st round pick. What if they decide not to sign him, what happens to him? Do they still retain the rights? Do they designate him to D League? Is he free to sign anywhere?

That would be interesting if that were to happen.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Biggest beat down in NBA Finals history. Because of salary cap issues, the Heat had no depth. Add that to the fact that Wade is just a shell of himself and the writing was on the wall. The Heat would've never made the Finals if they were in the West.

I don't know that it was the biggest beat down in NBA history but I do think it was pretty severe.

 

[Rockport]

I don't know that it was the biggest beat down in NBA history but I do think it was pretty severe.

Well, at least statistically it was. The Spurs outscored the Heat by 14 points per game in the 2014 NBA Finals, the largest points differential in a single series in Finals history.

 

[casmith07]

Biggest beat down in NBA Finals history. Because of salary cap issues, the Heat had no depth. Add that to the fact that Wade is just a shell of himself and the writing was on the wall. The Heat would've never made the Finals if they were in the West.

The Heat should have amnestied Wade's contract instead of Mike Miller.

 

[Fizziksman]

I love the spurs homers spurting all over the place when they get upset. So much fun to watch.

um you okay dude?

 

[casmith07]

I wonder just how much the way the Heat lost to San Antonio is effecting how James is doing this? I feel like James really feels like the Heat might be done. It's hard to imagine that but I think it might be true. Getting beat down by a team you beat the year before might be telling. If you look at that series, SA really did dominate the Heat and to be honest, it could easily have been a sweep.

I didn't think the Heat did enough after beating San Antonio the year before to win again. They had a tough decision to make and they decided to pay Wade $20M to be a complete bum.

 

[jterrell]

I wonder just how much the way the Heat lost to San Antonio is effecting how James is doing this? I feel like James really feels like the Heat might be done. It's hard to imagine that but I think it might be true. Getting beat down by a team you beat the year before might be telling. If you look at that series, SA really did dominate the Heat and to be honest, it could easily have been a sweep.

It was how Heat mgmt handled that roster.
The owner set a hard cap limit and they didn't use the exceptions to improve.
As the title favorites they had good choices with those exceptions but ignored them.
LeBron was particularly annoyed they didn't add Mike Miller.

That's why they agreed already to exception deals this year. That's Riley saying, we are using them on guys that can help....

Not sure that's enough though compared to CLE saying we've got a deal for Love contingent upon you signing and we have roster of guys here ready to go including better guard play and better big man than you have in Miami.

Could probably get Haslem in CLE if they wanted on a MLE deal.

 

[casmith07]

It was how Heat mgmt handled that roster.
The owner set a hard cap limit and they didn't use the exceptions to improve.
As the title favorites they had good choices with those exceptions but ignored them.
LeBron was particularly annoyed they didn't add Mike Miller.

That's why they agreed already to exception deals this year. That's Riley saying, we are using them on guys that can help....

Not sure that's enough though compared to CLE saying we've got a deal for Love contingent upon you signing and we have roster of guys here ready to go including better guard play and better big man than you have in Miami.

Could probably get Haslem in CLE if they wanted on a MLE deal.

Cleveland Heat.

 

[Manwiththeplan]

Biggest beat down in NBA Finals history.

You know teams have gotten swept before, right?

 

[Manwiththeplan]

It was how Heat mgmt handled that roster.
The owner set a hard cap limit and they didn't use the exceptions to improve.
As the title favorites they had good choices with those exceptions but ignored them.
LeBron was particularly annoyed they didn't add Mike Miller.

That's why they agreed already to exception deals this year. That's Riley saying, we are using them on guys that can help....

Not sure that's enough though compared to CLE saying we've got a deal for Love contingent upon you signing and we have roster of guys here ready to go including better guard play and better big man than you have in Miami.

Could probably get Haslem in CLE if they wanted on a MLE deal.

I thought they used their MLE to sign Ray Allen?