E-Lie Throws Another League Leading INT - Now 11 More Than Romo

[dupree89]

What makes romo great is he has the 32nd ranked defense and 31st ranked rushing attack and the guy still goes out and does everything he can to win . Could you imagine Eli with the 32nd def and 32nd run game Hahahahaha

in 2011, the Giants had the # 25 defense overall and the # 32 running game on offense. And they won the Super Bowl. QBs other than Tony Romo have played with a bad defense and no running game.

 

[Pessimist_cowboy]

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Answer my question and stop going down rabbit trails, how many touchdowns did he have have in both Super Bowl runs compared to the interceptions.

not enough in Super Bowl 2 Td 1 int big deal Super Bowl MVP my *** . 17 points isn't good enough for me win or loss . I don't know you tell us sounds like you spend lots of time on giants .com .

All I know is romo is a much better qb and every single passing stat is in his favor , go look that up .

 

[Rack]

in 2011, the Giants had the # 25 defense overall and the # 32 running game on offense. And they won the Super Bowl. QBs other than Tony Romo have played with a bad defense and no running game.

How did that defense and running game do in the playoffs?

 

[TrailBlazer]

Go watch the game tape . If you haven't figured it out by now it's probably to late . Not everyone can see the game properly . Most just say well how many rings does he have etc etc ... It's the cheesy fans (who don't understand the game ) . Romo 96 career qb rating Eli 81 . I don't really think anyone would logically take Eli over romo is starting a new franchise . Romo brings more to the table in every way . Passing Stats wise romo is more productive in every single way .

You'd be stupid to take Tony if you're starting a new franchise. Tony only has a few seasons left and his best days are behind him.


Lol some ppl just don't realize that the point of this game is to win Super Bowls. And that's what qb's are remembered by. Tony has one playoff win to Eli's 2 Super Bowl rings. Has tony been better? Yeah. Has Eli been more successful? Yes has Eli played big in the playoffs? Yes

 

[Wayne02]

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not enough in Super Bowl 2 Td 1 int big deal Super Bowl MVP my *** . 17 points isn't good enough for me win or loss . I don't know you tell us sounds like you spend lots of time on giants .com .

All I know is romo is a much better qb and every single passing stat is in his favor , go look that up .

I said in both Super Bowl runs, that means all of those road games that led to the Super Bowl. Now let's see if you can finally answer the question.

 

[TrailBlazer]

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not enough in Super Bowl 2 Td 1 int big deal Super Bowl MVP my *** . 17 points isn't good enough for me win or loss . I don't know you tell us sounds like you spend lots of time on giants .com .

All I know is romo is a much better qb and every single passing stat is in his favor , go look that up .

HAHA stats! 2 Super Bowls > one playoff win. This is how bad ppl would bust on you if you tried doing this anywhere else but a cowboys forum.

 

[KJJ]

When your entire position rests on "A RING" why yes, yes it does bolster the "argument." When a fallacious position is based solely on rings then any player that has a "ring" is relevant to the "argument." Numerous players with "rings" can be brought into the "argument" but ONE example, like Timmy Smith, is all that is needed to demonstrate how weak the "ring argument" is.

Your entire position rests on your bias for Tony Romo and obsessive hatred for Eli Manning. Your inability to look at both QB's objectively weakens any position you have and has resulted in a never ending obsession by you to tear Eli's game down every few weeks while raising Romo's to a level he has yet to reach. The only players relevant to this argument are QB's because they influence the outcome of games more than any player on the field especially in this era where QB's are throwing the ball more than ever before. Bringing Timmy Smith who last played in the NFL 23 years ago into an argument about 2 QB's playing today is beyond ridiculous. He was a below average RB who played only 3 years and had only 8 career starts and you're using him as an example to bash Eli? LOL You need to come back to this era where it's now a pass happy league dominated by QB's. You can't bring "every player" who has a ring into an argument about QB's especially players who played in different era's. Every player doesn't impact a game like a QB impacts todays game. QB's are judged on consistency over a period of years and on how they perform in the most critical games and during the postseason. You're saying my position rests on a ring when in fact it rests on TWO rings which means Eli validated his first ring with a second one. My position rests on his 2 championships, 2 SB MVP awards and his 8-3 playoff record.

My position is predicated on the fact that Eli and Romo face each other twice a year and Eli has gotten the better of him in the only 2 elimination games they faced each other in. Both wins led to Eli's 2 championships. Head to head battles count for a lot when comparing QB's especially when they play in the same division. Eli has won 7 more playoff games than Romo which is almost double the amount of playoff games Romo has appeared in. Eli has more SB wins than Romo has playoff wins. What Eli has accomplished during the postseason easily trumps everything Romo has accomplished during the regular season. Not only has Eli won 2 SB's but he won them against a great team that had won 3 prior SB's. He faced off against a great team and one of the greatest QB's to ever play the game in Tom Brady and outplayed him. Out dueling Brady in 2 SB's along with Aaron Rodgers the league MVP during the playoffs in 2011 puts some huge skins on Eli's wall. SB rings are what it's all about and they've put several QB's in the HOF. Even Romo has acknowledged it's not about stats it's about championships.

SB rings and last ditch drives to win big games has Joe Montana considered by many the greatest QB to ever play the game. Only 2 QB's Montana and Eli have driven their teams down the field on last ditch drives to win a SB and Eli has done it twice. It's become so sad amongst Cowboy FANS like yourself that they're defending Romo by putting more importance on regular season numbers than they are on winning playoff games and championships. Some Cowboy FANS are so caught up with stats they have Romo ranked ahead of Staubach and Aikman who've combined for 5 SB championships simply because Romo has better regular season numbers and a higher career passer rating. Carry on and continue exposing your Eli agenda along with your Romosexuality and claiming that some of us who don't see things your way are really Giants fans that are just parading around as Cowboy fans.

 

[Pessimist_cowboy]

HAHA stats! 2 Super Bowls > one playoff win. This is how bad ppl would bust on you if you tried doing this anywhere else but a cowboys forum.

I don't know Amani Toomer who was on the Super Bowl team for the giants has said hands down romo is a better qb .

2 superbowls aren't stats they are team achievements . Anyone else notice everyone with that rowdy aviator seems to lack any kind of football sense ?

So is Eli better than Marino ? Your thought process is completely flawed . You have no premise except 2 rings against zero . That's pretty lame Eli has been horrid I wouldn't take him over Kyle Orton .

 

[Wayne02]

I don't know Amani Toomer who was on the Super Bowl team for the giants has said hands down romo is a better qb .

2 superbowls aren't stats they are team achievements . Anyone else notice everyone with that rowdy aviator seems to lack any kind of football sense ?

So is Eli better than Marino ? Your thought process is completely flawed . You have no premise except 2 rings against zero . That's pretty lame Eli has been horrid I wouldn't take him over Kyle Orton .

Not that you had any credibility before, but this just eradicates any that you thought you may have had away.

 

[TrailBlazer]

I don't know Amani Toomer who was on the Super Bowl team for the giants has said hands down romo is a better qb .

2 superbowls aren't stats they are team achievements . Anyone else notice everyone with that rowdy aviator seems to lack any kind of football sense ?

So is Eli better than Marino ? Your thought process is completely flawed . You have no premise except 2 rings against zero . That's pretty lame Eli has been horrid I wouldn't take him over Kyle Orton .

I'm not talking about Marino or Amani roomer or Kyle Orton. I'm talkin about Eli and tony. Keep up with me here. And try not to stray off topic.

My point is this, in ten years when we compare the careers of Eli and tony, tony will be remembered for having one playoff victory. Compared to 2 Super Bowl wins and 2 Super Bowl MVPs for Eli. That's what really matters. Who has been the better regular season qb? Tony. But that doesn't matter.

Anyone who doesn't see that is a blind homer. Qb's are remembered by how they perform in the playoffs.

 

[Pessimist_cowboy]

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I'm not talking about Marino or Amani roomer or Kyle Orton. I'm talkin about Eli and tony. Keep up with me here. And try not to stray off topic.

My point is this, in ten years when we compare the careers of Eli and tony, tony will be remembered for having one playoff victory. Compared to 2 Super Bowl wins and 2 Super Bowl MVPs for Eli. That's what really matters. Who has been the better regular season qb? Tony. But that doesn't matter.

Anyone who doesn't see that is a blind homer. Qb's are remembered by how they perform in the playoffs.

Speak for yourself . I remember Eli leading the league in INTs multiple times . I don't remember dilfer either or Flacco either . Anyone know who Doug Williams is ?

Keep up with me we are talking about Eli vs romo not giants vs cowboys .romo has better stats in every way . He is the better player , and the cowboys have 5 superbowls giants only 4 . So there you have it you lose both times you giants homer . NOW Get the heck out of our cowboy board ! You're pathetic .

 

[TrailBlazer]

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Speak for yourself . I remember Eli leading the league in INTs multiple times . I don't remember dilfer either or Flacco either . Anyone know who Doug Williams is ?

Keep up with me we are talking about Eli vs romo not giants vs cowboys .romo has better stats in every way . He is the better player , and the cowboys have 5 superbowls giants only 4 . So there you have it you lose both times you giants homer . NOW Get the heck out of our cowboy board ! You're pathetic .

Wow this really shows your lack of intelligence. I am speaking for myself, who else would i speak for? Lol what does dilfer flacco and Doug Williams have to do with Eli and tony. I tell you I'm not talking about toomer and Marino so you bring up these guys next? Stay on topic. How does number of Super Bowl wins as a franchise pertain to this debate? It doesnt. Again keep up and stay on topic.

I hate the damn giants. But I'm an objective fan, not a blind homer.

"Romo has better stats in every way"
That was the only line in your post that actually pertains to this argument.
Haha again with the stats. Regular season stats don't mean jack. Here's one for you, 2 Super Bowl mvp's for Eli. That's what matters.

I'll sum it up for you: 2 Super Bowl MVPs beats 1 playoff win every single time. Regular season tony has been the better player. But superbowls aren't won in November.

 

[Wayne02]

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Speak for yourself . I remember Eli leading the league in INTs multiple times . I don't remember dilfer either or Flacco either . Anyone know who Doug Williams is ?

Keep up with me we are talking about Eli vs romo not giants vs cowboys .romo has better stats in every way . He is the better player , and the cowboys have 5 superbowls giants only 4 . So there you have it you lose both times you giants homer . NOW Get the heck out of our cowboy board ! You're pathetic .

You are seriously embarrassing yourself with more nonsense like this. Just stop it man.

 

[Frozen700]

I'm sure the dolphins greatly appreciate Marino.

I'm also sure if they could take Eli, and his 2 superbowls..over marino and his stats. They would

 

[TrailBlazer]

You are seriously embarrassing yourself with more nonsense like this. Just stop it man.

He really is. I wish I could agree with him that romo is head and shoulders better than Eli. In the regular season maybe he has been better than eli. But the 2 Super Bowl mvp's makes it obvious who has been more successful. And in ten years when we look back on it, that's all that should matter.

 

[Wayne02]

I'm sure the dolphins greatly appreciate Marino.

I'm also sure if they could take Eli, and his 2 superbowls..over marino and his stats. They would

That's the thing with these unobjective Romo homers, in their minds, they think anytime you give credit to Eli and the Giants for winning those 2 Super Bowls, they think that we're saying that Romo sucks, they immediately get all defensive and they just have to stick up for their man Romo like a bunch of Stepford Wives, it's sad.

 

[Frozen700]

That's the thing with these unobjective Romo homers, in their minds, they think anytime you give credit to Eli and the Giants for winning those 2 Super Bowls, they think that we're saying that Romo sucks, they immediately get all defensive and they just have to stick up for their man Romo like a bunch of Stepford Wives, it's sad.

You hit the nail on the head....

They turn blind, deaf, and completely black out when you mention another player, and just assume you are saying 1 thing "so and so on the cowboys suck, just because I will not laugh at so and so, along with you"

Now you are public enemy number 1, you are a hater, you love the other team, how dare you, you traitor, you villain!

 

[Pessimist_cowboy]

It's a 53 man team fools not 1 vs 1 . Talk about blind . I've seen Big Ben win a superbowl with a 20 qb rating . I would rather stick it out with romo he is a better player and he will succeed when the REST of the team does . You've got the brain of a peanut . I thought Troy aikman was a great qb but was he better than Favre or Elway because he had more rings . Hell no ! And if you say yes you're being an emo homer .

You hit the nail on the head....

They turn blind, deaf, and completely black out when you mention another player, and just assume you are saying 1 thing "so and so on the cowboys suck, just because I will not laugh at so and so, along with you"

Now you are public enemy number 1, you are a hater, you love the other team, how dare you, you traitor, you villain!

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[Frozen700]

It's a 53 man team fools not 1 vs 1 . Talk about blind . I've seen Big Ben win a superbowl with a 20 qb rating . I would rather stick it out with romo he is a better player and he will succeed when the REST of the team does . You've got the brain of a peanut . I thought Troy aikman was a great qb but was he better than Favre or Elway because he had more rings . Hell no ! And if you say yes you're being an emo homer .


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Alright man....just take a deep breathe, you're losing it.

Go have some Egg Nog, and relax.

Right now you are showing to much emotion, and the things you are saying makes you look foolish and you are embarrassing yourself

 

[TrailBlazer]

It's a 53 man team fools not 1 vs 1 . Talk about blind . I've seen Big Ben win a superbowl with a 20 qb rating . I would rather stick it out with romo he is a better player and he will succeed when the REST of the team does . You've got the brain of a peanut . I thought Troy aikman was a great qb but was he better than Favre or Elway because he had more rings . Hell no ! And if you say yes you're being an emo homer .


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And yet again you feel the need to bring up players that are irrelevant to this discussion about Eli and tony.

2 Super Bowl MVPs beats 1 playoff win. That's the bottom line. And that's all that's going to matter in ten years when we look back on it.