Eagles re-sign Jalen Hurts

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I have a question. How to incentive-laden contracts work with the salary cap? How do we know a team is under the cap when the actually amounts it has to pay out remain to be seen based on performance? Or is the cap made on maximum-possible payouts of those kinds of contracts?
It depends on how likely the incentive is to be reached. If it’s a very likely incentive (make the opening day roster, be healthy for x amount of games), then the rule is the team needs to have that amount of cap space available during the season for when he meets it.

If it’s a less likely incentive (reach 4000 yards passing, team wins NFCCG), then you don’t have to have the cap space reserved that year, as the incentive will impact the next year’s cap
 

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I don’t have a problem with the talent that’s here.

I have a problem with how we pay our own talent and the lack of. Flexibility it gives us to go get legit veterans.

I’m still shocked we got Gilmore and Cooks. That’s a nice change other then some dumpster dive from the Jets or Panthers.
Howie orchestrated trades, and has 2 first round picks after just being in the SB. Jerry got rid of Amari Cooper for a freakin' 5th because he was butthurt about the covid vaccine thing. When was the last time we gained and extra 1st round pick? - I'm agreeing with you, it's just terrible how Jerry operates.
 

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And the Eagles are somehow now projected to be 100 million under the cap next year.
OvertheCAP says $48 million but only 38 players signed. The 2024 CAP is projected to be $256 million, a big increase from 2023.
 

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The Birds are counting on the huge Cap increases in the next few years. IF they come true then they are all right; a little tight but not bad. If something like Covid happens again they are truly screwed
 

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OvertheCAP says $48 million but only 38 players signed. The 2024 CAP is projected to be $256 million, a big increase from 2023.
The 2024 thing is if you look at all the ways Howie has set it up to free up money

 

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That game was over before Purdy went down. Eagles ran all over them and scored TD's the first 3 drives I believe.

But that would be another point. Whether the QB went down or not, Hurts didnt have to do much. Wouldnt it be nice to beat the Niners and the QB not to have to carry the team? How about playing the Giants in the 2nd round. Wouldnt that have been nice? Again, this was what happened to Hurts and the Eagles. Instead we played the Niners in the 2nd.
Dude, sorry, but your post doesn’t make sense. You don’t think that if San Fran had of stayed in the game, that perhaps Hurts might’ve thrown the ball more? Seriously man you are reaching. If only there was a better example… Like, maybe just two weeks later lol.
 

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I don't know about this deal. Seems like a lot of money for a QB who had one good year really. Plus, he is a runner and that means he has a good chance of getting hurt. QB contracts are out of control.

I think Hurts is better than a lot of people thought when the Eagles drafted him, But I don't see him carrying an injured team to a Super Bowl like Mahomes did. If the Eagles have to shed talent to pay Hurts they will regret Hurts' deal.
 

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The Birds are counting on the huge Cap increases in the next few years. IF they come true then they are all right; a little tight but not bad. If something like Covid happens again they are truly screwed
All teams are counting on the cap increases. If teams plan it right, they will be fine. Eagles are not any better off after this hurts deal than what Dallas is.

Dallas
https://overthecap.com/calculator?Team=Cowboys/dallas-cowboys/
Philly
https://overthecap.com/calculator?Team=Cowboys/philadelphia-eagles/

Projection are within reason of both teams. And as we know as restructures happen, these future numbers change often.
 

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The 2024 thing is if you look at all the ways Howie has set it up to free up money


I am only going by what Over the CAP is reporting. and Yes, they can extend players to give them CAP friendly contracts in the first year but then they wind up with bigger CAP problems in 2 or 3 years.

I am not being critical of the Eagles. I love how aggressive they are adding and retaining talent. But the CAP does not allow any team to stock up high priced talent. Hurts' contract is going to force some salary drops somewhere.
 

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This could be bad for Lamar. Hurts signed for less guarantees than Kyler last year. The precedent of teams going further and further away from Watson’s contract will further dissuade teams from negotiating with him until his demands change
Yeah but a running QB getting this deal helps him. He isn't going to get fully guaranteed but now Baltimore can't say "there isn't any precedent other than Cleveland". Another landmark has been established. For better or worse. Might also give other teams who are interested in Lamar a framework to say what they are willing to do.
 

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The numbers suggest Dak is a SIGNIFICANTLY better QB in traditional quarterback situations. What Hurts is doing is very hard to replicate across time because he is very limited as a pocket passer going through traditional reads.
:facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm:

In 2022, Hurts had a better QBR than Burrows, Herbert, Lawrence, Lamar, Brady, Stafford, Josh Allen, Rodgers, Tannehill, and yes Dak, yet he is very limited as a pocket passer going through traditional reads.
 

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All teams are counting on the cap increases. If teams plan it right, they will be fine. Eagles are not any better off after this hurts deal than what Dallas is.

Dallas
https://overthecap.com/calculator?Team=Cowboys/dallas-cowboys/
Philly
https://overthecap.com/calculator?Team=Cowboys/philadelphia-eagles/

Projection are within reason of both teams. And as we know as restructures happen, these future numbers change often.
Wait till you see the void years on Hertz contract… I’m guessing it’s gonna be a lot
 

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Howie is an actual GM. I hate the eagles but they might have the best front office in the league
 

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Why? Because of that fumble? He was a big reason they almost won.

Threw for 300. Ran for 70. Accounted for 4 of the Eagles TDs. QB rating of 104. QBR of nearly 80. But yeah. He was the a big reason they lost. Your Philly hate is epic. If Dak had that boxscore in a big game, you'd cream yourself.

All that being said, damn, that contract is nuts. QB deals are getting out of control. At some point, will teams start to think they can just spend on all the other positions and try to get by with a mid-level QB?
You’re obviously an Eagles fan.
 
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