Eagles re-sign Jalen Hurts

[TheMarathonContinues]

100% of Eagles fans would take Hurts over Murray.

Of course they would. They are Eagles fans. I’d take him too but that doesn’t mean he’s more skilled. I’d take Dak over him too but I think Kyler is more skilled. Between the ears he lacks what both have which is why he hasn’t progressed.

 

[harris33]

100% of Eagles fans would take Hurts over Murray.

Outside of mahomes i would not give up much of anything for the other QB's out there. Recency bias of course but the Eagles didn't get handed the conference. Sure they played ahead a in a bunch of games like some other posters said but Hurts had a part in that. Time will tell if he has hit his ceiling, kickout for 2023 can not come soon enough.

 

[Swagger]

So how did the Cowboys go 4-1 with a quarterback that is barely a backup in the NFL?

All on the coaching? Then why did the Cowboys lose to several weaker teams with the same coaching but different QB...

 

[CowboyRoy]

Dude, sorry, but your post doesn’t make sense. You don’t think that if San Fran had of stayed in the game, that perhaps Hurts might’ve thrown the ball more? Seriously man you are reaching. If only there was a better example… Like, maybe just two weeks later lol.

No, your just not getting it. Hurts had to do nothing that game. Doesnt matter why. It was a layup.

 

[Aerolithe_Lion]

He’s only 25. Those guys are in their 30s….big difference.

Big difference at what? Attempting to evaluate them? You can’t credit Murray for things he hasn’t done yet. What he is now is what he is, until he proves differently

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Big difference at what? Attempting to evaluate them? You can’t credit Murray for things he hasn’t done yet. What he is now is what he is, until he proves differently

I’m not. That’s my point. I don’t know what Murray is. I do know what Kirk and Carr are.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

So how did the Cowboys go 4-1 with a quarterback that is barely a backup in the NFL?

All on the coaching? Then why did the Cowboys lose to several weaker teams with the same coaching but different QB...

You mean how they lost to Philly with the backup QB but beat Philly with the starter lol?

 

[Aerolithe_Lion]

I’m not. That’s my point. I don’t know what Murray is. I do know what Kirk and Carr are.

Without Hurts, there’s a strong probability we can not make it to the SB. A QB who you don’t know what he is doesn’t change that

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Without Hurts, there’s a strong probability we can not make it to the SB. A QB who you don’t know what he is doesn’t change that

If the 49ers can get to the conference game with Purdy I believe the Eagles can do the same with Kyler. They won a SB with Nick Foles. I’m suppose to believe Nick Foles was the only quarterback who was able to take them there?

 

[Risen Star]

Go away Eagirls troll. You and @Risen Star need to get a room so y’all can hold hands and pretend the Eagirls won a SB last year. 2nd place means squat other than you lost your last game like all the other playoff teams.

You promised no more schooling.

 

[Havic]

Jackson wants 60m, burrow will get 60m

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

If you prefer football, did you think Troy Aikman was a HoFer after his first two years? My point stands, you really don't know.

Hurts supporting cast? I remember reading some delusional posts posts that Gallup>>Smith, AJ Brown was overrated, Miles Sanders is always hurt, and Steele is better than Lane Johnson (I hope that poster got into rehab). Is Emmitt really a better back than Barry? I mean, Emmitt had the best o-line in football for years while Barry had Lomas Brown and four pieces of swiss cheese. Emmitt ran in a run-oriented offense while Barry was in Mouse Davis's run and shoot. How's that for supporting cast?

Hurts balled last year. We have seen plenty of QB's with very good supporting casts look like dog poo or choke on the field when it counted. Tony Romo anyone? Aaron Rodgers? Justin Herbert? Matt Ryan? Donovan McNabb, who literally choked in the Super Bowl?

yes, I did think Aikman was a HOFer. he was the consensus #1, can't miss prospect. even in his first year, surronded by high school level players, you could see some of the talent that would shine through. I didn't see that in Hurts. so yeah, your point stands on a sand bar....

and yes, Hurs supporting cast. who in the world ranked Gallup>>> smith. they should be admited to hospital psychiatric emergency care unit and locked up in a suit. AJ Brown is not over rated. he was and still is one of the best WR in the league. and it doesn't change the fact that Philly had a top 5 rushing offense. I never mentioned sanders. also Philly according to most had the best OL in football. and why do you even bring up Steele? this was about the talent surronding Hurts. I am not going to argue if Steele was better than Johnson, because it doesn't mean johnson was a bad player. and you want to tell me he didn't have support of a top notch TE?

and then you took another sip of your 8th beer and switched to Emmitt vs. Barry...what in the heck!!!! what does that have to do with sun rising in the east!!!!

Hurts didn't ball last year. hurts ran pretty well. he was 10th in passing. with that WR group. with that TE. with that running game. and the #2 defense in the league.

so yeah, all in all Hurts had a very strong supporting cast.

come on dude. watch some football, or sit in the back of the room and listen to some who know a couple of things more than you.

I am not even going to respond to the gibberish last sentence. I think by that point you were sipping your 11th beer.

 

[Swagger]

You promised no more schooling.

 

[Aerolithe_Lion]

If the 49ers can get to the conference game with Purdy I believe the Eagles can do the same with Kyler. They won a SB with Nick Foles. I’m suppose to believe Nick Foles was the only quarterback who was able to take them there?

That’s a different team makeup with a different scenario around them. The other 3 NFCE teams didn’t win a combined 29 games, nor did SF’s competition in 2022.

You held Purdy to 19 total points. You probably should have won that game. That’s not exactly a pedestal to Brock’s postseason dominance.

In week 1, Hurts brought us to a 38-21 lead before Detroit came storming back. We only won by 3 despite Hurts’ performance. Kyler definitely loses that game. Against the Colts, Hurts required a comeback victory at the end, unlikely Kyler pulls that out. Right there we’re a wild card team.

Jalen Hurts had 8 total turnovers last year, Kyler’s never had lower than 14 except for years he couldn’t stay healthy (that’s another matter, we likely have Minshew anyway in those playoff games due to Kyler’s health issues). Those turnovers and missed time to injury possibly lead to more losses, but that’ll still result in us being a WC team.

Kyler, Dak, Carr, Cousins, Watson, Wilson, Smith, Tua… we’re likely not in the SB with any of those QBs.

 

[harris33]

If the 49ers can get to the conference game with Purdy I believe the Eagles can do the same with Kyler. They won a SB with Nick Foles. I’m suppose to believe Nick Foles was the only quarterback who was able to take them there?

Who wants a QB that the team even considers putting a clause in for film study time? As for Nick, he has always done well as an eagles starter. Frankly I don't think they win that SB with Wentz. I was of the opinion that they should have kept Nick and dumped Carson.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

That’s a different team makeup with a different scenario around them. The other 3 NFCE teams didn’t win a combine 29 games, nor did SF’s competition in 2022.

In week 1, Hurts brought us to a 38-21 lead before Detroit came storming back. We only won by 3 despite Hurts’ performance. Kyler definitely loses that game. Against the Colts, Hurts required a comeback victory at the end, unlikely Kyler pulls that out. Right there we’re a wild card team.

Jalen Hurts had 8 total turnovers last year, Kyler’s never had lower than 14 except for years he couldn’t stay healthy in (that’s another matter, we likely have Minshew anyway in those playoff games due to Kyler’s health issues). Those turnovers possibly lead to more losses, but that’ll still result in us being a WC team.

Kyler, Dak, Carr, Cousins, Watson, Wilson, Smith, Tua… we’re likely not in the SB with any of those QBs.

Wait what? So you're gloating about beating the Lions by 3 points? Despite having a 38-21 lead? Hurts too would've lost it just wasn't anymore time left lol. Kyler plays for a dreadful team and head coach. I'm not even Kyler's biggest fan but let's not pretend like the Eagles haven't done a better job of putting talent around Hurts than the Cardinals have Murray.

If the Eagles aren't in the SB with those other QB's its because they aren't running their QB's to death. Hurts does a lot of his damage against the run. So from that aspect those guys rely on their arms and would represent a different team. Would Lamar have the same impact? I think he would. Probably better. HE's a far better runner than Hurts.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Who wants a QB that the team even considers putting a clause in for film study time? As for Nick, he has always done well as an eagles starter. Frankly I don't think they win that SB with Wentz. I was of the opinion that they should have kept Nick and dumped Carson.

Foles stinks. He had a great run the SB year but he proved what he was time and time again outside of Philly's system.

I'm no Murray fan for sure. That's a big difference between Hurts and Kyler. Kyler is probably more gifted but between the ears Kyler just never grew up.

 

[Rayman70]

this is powerball lottery stuff. crazy money

 

[harris33]

Foles stinks. He had a great run the SB year but he proved what he was time and time again outside of Philly's system.

I'm no Murray fan for sure. That's a big difference between Hurts and Kyler. Kyler is probably more gifted but between the ears Kyler just never grew up.

That is it in a nutshell. Kyler between the ears doesn't have much. He did not seem to put the work in and talent takes you so far. Note his best WR wants out of there.

 

[Diehardblues]

I get what you’re saying but it’s hard to compare contracts 2,3,4 years ago to today. Hurts has reset the QB market and it’s a good bet that Jackson, Herbert, and/or Burrow will reset it again. I would imagine the agent for Daniel Jones likely included Dak’s contract in his negotiations. One of the reasons they seem bunched is because they tend to leap frog each other.

Yes, they do often leap frog each other from year to year which is a product of Market Price.