Eagles RPO game

[SoBlue128]

After the halfway point of the year teams will adjust and learn how to control it. They cant keep this up all year. The league is just 2 good. They will lose 4 games I think.

Eagles had two really good drives the first touchdown and the last one. Everything else in between was the Cowboys shooting themselves in the foot. They got 13 points from the junk and 13 from two very good drives. This game should have been a complete blowout and yet it wasn't. Eagles are good but not as good as i initially thought and I agree I also believe they will lose some games.

 

[Rayman70]

Eagles had two really good drives the first touchdown and the last one. Everything else in between was the Cowboys shooting themselves in the foot. They got 13 points from the junk and 13 from two very good drives. This game should have been a complete blowout and yet it wasn't. Eagles are good but not as good as i initially thought and I agree I also believe they will lose some games.

As they say, its a marathon, not a sprint. Slow and steady wins the race in the NFL. Defense travels extremely well down the stretch.

 

[Carson]

@MarcusRock what do you think about this? I respect your opinion as you’re always unbiased on these

 

[jblaze2004]

If I'm DQ I instruct micah to blow the qb up whether he pitches or not. They will stop calling it.

That is what I was saying during the game. I would blow the QB every time they use that RPO and just look like "man I thought he had the ball".

 

[Rayman70]

Eagles looked like dear in headlights in the 4th quarter. Like they been punched in the gut. Had Dak been the QB I lay ya odds we win that game. Hurts and self inflicted wounds was the difference. We couldn't match Hurts.

 

[Carson]

Eagles looked like dear in headlights in the 4th quarter. Like they been punched in the gut. Had Dak been the QB I lay ya odds we win that game. Hurts and self inflicted wounds was the difference. We couldn't match Hurts.

Oh no doubt. That Lamb play goes for 6

 

[Rayman70]

Oh no doubt. That Lamb play goes for 6

exactly

 

[Rayman70]

The final score doesnt do that game justice. It was much closer than that really.

 

[Carson]

The final score doesnt do that game justice. It was much closer than that really.

Sadly, it’s what Dallas does. It’s typically in the playoffs.

Get behind big, come back and come up short

 

[Rayman70]

Eagles are using smoke and mirrors on D. We started figuring them out in the 2nd half,but ran out of time. They can be beat

 

[Creeper]

According the the rules, if the offensive linemen make initial contact within one yard and maintain that contact they are legally downfield. Watching the video clip, the Eagles linemen establish their blocks at the LOS and push the Cowboys backwards. None of them continue to move forward after breaking contact with the Cowboys defenders. That makes them all legally down field.

From the rulebook:

SECTION 3 - INELIGIBLE PLAYER DOWNFIELD
ARTICLE 1. LEGAL AND ILLEGAL ACTS
On a scrimmage play during which a legal forward pass is thrown, an ineligible offensive player, including a T-formation quarterback, is not permitted to move more than one yard beyond the line of scrimmage before the pass has been thrown.

Item 1. Legally Downfield. An ineligible player is not illegally downfield if, after initiating contact with an opponent within one yard of the line of scrimmage during his initial charge:

(a) he moves more than one yard beyond the line while legally blocking or being blocked by an opponent
(b) after breaking legal contact with an opponent more than one yard beyond the line of scrimmage, he remains stationary until a forward pass is thrown
(c) after losing legal contact with an opponent more than one yard beyond the line of scrimmage, he is forced behind the line of scrimmage by an opponent, at which time he is again subject to normal blocking restrictions for an ineligible offensive player.
Note: If an ineligible offensive player moves beyond the line while legally blocking or being blocked by an opponent, an eligible offensive player may catch a pass between them and the line of scrimmage.

Item 2. Illegally Downfield. An ineligible offensive player is illegally downfield if:

(a) he moves more than one yard beyond the line of scrimmage without contacting an opponent
(b) after losing contact with an opponent within one yard of the line of scrimmage, he advances more than one yard beyond the line of scrimmage
(c) after losing contact with an opponent more than one yard beyond the line of scrimmage, he continues to move toward his opponent’s goal line.
(d) Penalty: For ineligible offensive player downfield: Loss of five yards from the previous spot.

 

[Rayman70]

To his credit, albeit late, Moore did adjust in the 2nd half. I just wish we had done it sooner.

 

[davey999]

The other thing I would do is every time they run the RPO, tackle Hurts. Every time - regardless if he keeps it or not.

 

[EversonIWasAYoungBoy]

According the the rules, if the offensive linemen make initial contact within one yard and maintain that contact they are legally downfield. Watching the video clip, the Eagles linemen establish their blocks at the LOS and push the Cowboys backwards. None of them continue to move forward after breaking contact with the Cowboys defenders. That makes them all legally down field.

From the rulebook:

SECTION 3 - INELIGIBLE PLAYER DOWNFIELD
ARTICLE 1. LEGAL AND ILLEGAL ACTS
On a scrimmage play during which a legal forward pass is thrown, an ineligible offensive player, including a T-formation quarterback, is not permitted to move more than one yard beyond the line of scrimmage before the pass has been thrown.

Item 1. Legally Downfield. An ineligible player is not illegally downfield if, after initiating contact with an opponent within one yard of the line of scrimmage during his initial charge:

(a) he moves more than one yard beyond the line while legally blocking or being blocked by an opponent
(b) after breaking legal contact with an opponent more than one yard beyond the line of scrimmage, he remains stationary until a forward pass is thrown
(c) after losing legal contact with an opponent more than one yard beyond the line of scrimmage, he is forced behind the line of scrimmage by an opponent, at which time he is again subject to normal blocking restrictions for an ineligible offensive player.
Note: If an ineligible offensive player moves beyond the line while legally blocking or being blocked by an opponent, an eligible offensive player may catch a pass between them and the line of scrimmage.

Item 2. Illegally Downfield. An ineligible offensive player is illegally downfield if:

(a) he moves more than one yard beyond the line of scrimmage without contacting an opponent
(b) after losing contact with an opponent within one yard of the line of scrimmage, he advances more than one yard beyond the line of scrimmage
(c) after losing contact with an opponent more than one yard beyond the line of scrimmage, he continues to move toward his opponent’s goal line.
(d) Penalty: For ineligible offensive player downfield: Loss of five yards from the previous spot.

Yep, as long as they initiate the block within 1 yrd and maintain the block they could push the defender to the end zone if they wish.

 

[Rayman70]

Sadly, it’s what Dallas does. It’s typically in the playoffs.

Get behind big, come back and come up short

26 years man. I was 26 the last time we won a SB. Its been a long drought.

 

[Creeper]

The other thing I would do is every time they run the RPO, tackle Hurts. Every time - regardless if he keeps it or not.

Roughing the passer would be called unless the tackler is within 2 steps before the QB releases the ball. The way to stop this would have been to see where Parsons lines up and when the QB rolls out to his side, the safety has to come up and immediately take on the receiver while Parons runs at Hurts at full speed hoping to force him to make an early throw.

 

[Big D]

That is what I was saying during the game. I would blow the QB every time they use that RPO and just look like "man I thought he had the ball".

The defender doesn't even have to qualify it. The QB is a runner at that point.

 

[Rayman70]

I have faith in this team. Its because of DQ and Micah. They give us a real viable chance as long as we can make the tournament. I even think Fat Mike hasnt been bad. Hes been fine with the rare *** moment. I even think Moore has finally understood what it takes to adjust and call a winning game. Last night just wasnt meant to be and that happens in this league. Sometimes it aint your day. That simple. Give some credit to philly. Next time, we will win.

 

[MarcusRock]

@MarcusRock what do you think about this? I respect your opinion as you’re always unbiased on these

Here are the rules of the play. And like with holding, there are exceptions. That video is tough to confirm if all of the exceptions have been accounted for. Basically, if they are engaged with a guy in blocking, they're good down there. And if they're not, they better stand still. The red text below means this part of the rule was added just this season. Based on that blown up tiny video, it looks like they're all engaged at the time the pass is thrown and 1 guy looks like he stands still to watch Hurts throw it. The video is garbled in the large format though.

RULE 8
SECTION 3 INELIGIBLE PLAYER DOWNFIELD
ARTICLE 1. LEGAL AND ILLEGAL ACTS. On a scrimmage play during which a legal forward pass is thrown, an ineligible
offensive player, including a T-formation quarterback, is not permitted to move more than one yard beyond the line of scrimmage
before the pass has been thrown.

Item 1. Legally Downfield. An ineligible player is not illegally downfield if, after initiating contact with an opponent within one yard
of the line of scrimmage during his initial charge:
(a) he moves more than one yard beyond the line while legally blocking or being blocked by an opponent
(b) after breaking legal contact with an opponent more than one yard beyond the line of scrimmage, he remains stationary until
a forward pass is thrown
(c) after losing legal contact with an opponent more than one yard beyond the line of scrimmage, he is forced behind the line of
scrimmage by an opponent, at which time he is again subject to normal blocking restrictions for an ineligible offensive player.

Note: If an ineligible offensive player moves beyond the line while legally blocking or being blocked by an opponent, an
eligible offensive player may catch a pass between them and the line of scrimmage.
​

Item 2. Illegally Downfield. An ineligible offensive player is illegally downfield if:
(a) he moves more than one yard beyond the line of scrimmage without contacting an opponent
(b) after losing contact with an opponent within one yard of the line of scrimmage, he advances more than one yard beyond the
line of scrimmage
(c) after losing contact with an opponent more than one yard beyond the line of scrimmage, he continues to move toward his
opponent’s goal line.
Penalty: For ineligible offensive player downfield: Loss of five yards from the previous spot.
Note: An ineligible offensive player is illegally downfield when his entire body is more than one yard beyond the line of
scrimmage.​

 

[Carson]

Here are the rules of the play. And like with holding, there are exceptions. That video is tough to confirm if all of the exceptions have been accounted for. Basically, if they are engaged with a guy in blocking, they're good down there. And if they're not, they better stand still. The red text below means this part of the rule was added just this season. Based on that blown up tiny video, it looks like they're all engaged at the time the pass is thrown and 1 guy looks like he stands still to watch Hurts throw it. The video is garbled in the large format though.

RULE 8
SECTION 3 INELIGIBLE PLAYER DOWNFIELD
ARTICLE 1. LEGAL AND ILLEGAL ACTS. On a scrimmage play during which a legal forward pass is thrown, an ineligible
offensive player, including a T-formation quarterback, is not permitted to move more than one yard beyond the line of scrimmage
before the pass has been thrown.

Item 1. Legally Downfield. An ineligible player is not illegally downfield if, after initiating contact with an opponent within one yard
of the line of scrimmage during his initial charge:
(a) he moves more than one yard beyond the line while legally blocking or being blocked by an opponent
(b) after breaking legal contact with an opponent more than one yard beyond the line of scrimmage, he remains stationary until
a forward pass is thrown
(c) after losing legal contact with an opponent more than one yard beyond the line of scrimmage, he is forced behind the line of
scrimmage by an opponent, at which time he is again subject to normal blocking restrictions for an ineligible offensive player.

Note: If an ineligible offensive player moves beyond the line while legally blocking or being blocked by an opponent, an
eligible offensive player may catch a pass between them and the line of scrimmage.
​

Item 2. Illegally Downfield. An ineligible offensive player is illegally downfield if:
(a) he moves more than one yard beyond the line of scrimmage without contacting an opponent
(b) after losing contact with an opponent within one yard of the line of scrimmage, he advances more than one yard beyond the
line of scrimmage
(c) after losing contact with an opponent more than one yard beyond the line of scrimmage, he continues to move toward his
opponent’s goal line.
Penalty: For ineligible offensive player downfield: Loss of five yards from the previous spot.
Note: An ineligible offensive player is illegally downfield when his entire body is more than one yard beyond the line of
scrimmage.​

Always appreciate the insight!