Eagles waive former 1st round pick DE Derek Barnett

[EPL0c0]

LVE was playing well, but Leonard is only 28 and has been in the league a year less than Malik Hooker.

I'm hoping he comes here

 

[Creeper]

Why is everyone assuming Leonard can still play? The Colts cut him because he has ben terrible since he was injured. Has Byard helped the Eagles secondary? Not really. There are no miracle workers out there this time of year. If the Eagles sign Leonard he will ne a JAG not a difference maker. But it show that the Eagles know their defense is vulnerable and they need help.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Reagor definitely sucked. Both Dillard and Barnett were serviceable. Given that over 50% of First Round picks in the NFL fail, both Dillard and Barnett are average … nothing more, nothing less.

You expect more than average in the 1st round. You can get average in the 6th round....busts.

 

[mattwill]

You expect more than average in the 1st round. You can get average in the 6th round....busts.

You are confusing Hope with Expectation (Reality) Here is what the actual Expectation chart looks like. Dillard was pick 22. Reagor was pick 21 Barnett was pick 14. None of them achieved that status, You don't get average in the 6th round. You get a wing and a prayer.

Round		Expectation​
1​	Picks 1-5​	Hall of Famers and Franchise QBs (average of 2,350 in a range from 3,000 to 1,700)​
1​	Picks 6-15​	Perennial Probowlers and Franchise QBs (average of 1,325 in a range from 1,600 to 1,050)​
1​	Picks 16-32​	Quality Starters at Key Positions (average of 810 in a range from 1,000 to 620)​
2​	Round 2 (Picks 33-64)​	Solid Starters at Key Positions and Quality Starters elsewhere (average of 420 in a range from 580 to 270)​
3​	Round 3 (Picks 65-96)​	Solid Starters and Key Backups (average of 190 in a range from 265 to 116)​
4​	Round 4 (Picks 97-128)​	Special Teamers and Backups (average of 70 in a range from 112 to 44)​
5​	Round 5+ (Picks 129+)​	Whatever you can get (average of 35 in a range from 43 to 28.4)​
6​		Whatever you can get (average of 35 in a range from 43 to 28.4)​
7​		Whatever you can get (average of 35 in a range from 43 to 28.4)​
UDFA		Again, whatever you can get (0)​
Here's the	average NFL career	duration by round
Round	Average regular Season games	Average number of seasons
1	62.3	3.7
2	56.3	3.3
3	48.1	2.8
4	44.4	2.6
5	40.5	2.4
6	32.5	1.9
7	28.1	1.7

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

You are confusing Hope with Expectation (Reality) Here is what the actual Expectation chart looks like. Dillard was pick 22. Reagor was pick 21 Barnett was pick 14. None of them achieved that status, You don't get average in the 6th round. You get a wing and a prayer.

Acc Round		Expectation​
1​	Picks 1-5​	Hall of Famers and Franchise QBs (average of 2,350 in a range from 3,000 to 1,700)​
1​	Picks 6-15​	Perennial Probowlers and Franchise QBs (average of 1,325 in a range from 1,600 to 1,050)​
1​	Picks 16-32​	Quality Starters at Key Positions (average of 810 in a range from 1,000 to 620)​
2​	Round 2 (Picks 33-64)​	Solid Starters at Key Positions and Quality Starters elsewhere (average of 420 in a range from 580 to 270)​
3​	Round 3 (Picks 65-96)​	Solid Starters and Key Backups (average of 190 in a range from 265 to 116)​
4​	Round 4 (Picks 97-128)​	Special Teamers and Backups (average of 70 in a range from 112 to 44)​
5​	Round 5+ (Picks 129+)​	Whatever you can get (average of 35 in a range from 43 to 28.4)​
6​		Whatever you can get (average of 35 in a range from 43 to 28.4)​
7​		Whatever you can get (average of 35 in a range from 43 to 28.4)​
UDFA		Again, whatever you can get (0)​
Here's the	average NFL career	duration by round
Round	Average regular Season games	Average number of seasons
1	62.3	3.7
2	56.3	3.3
3	48.1	2.8
4	44.4	2.6
5	40.5	2.4
6	32.5	1.9
7	28.1	1.7an

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And according to this chart they are busts. Like what are you doing? They are busts. He sucks in the first round

 

[cowboyschmps3]

After the dolphins lost Phillips yesterday I think they jump on him.

 

[Toro9]

The Eagles know when to cut their losses and know how to get players they need and how to fit them into the cap projection. I hate em but they know how to build a team.

 

[chagus]

Who was our 2017 1st rounder again?????

Eeeeeee....

 

[mattwill]

And according to this chart they are busts. Like what are you doing? They are busts. He sucks in the first round

You clearly live in a binary world ... either plus or minus. The world we live in is neither black nor white, but rather many shades of gray. Reagor is a bust, neither of the other two were. They delivered tangible value at meaningful times during their careers. Barnett recovered a fumble in the Super Bowl win.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

You clearly live in a binary world ... either plus or minus. The world we live in is neither black nor white, but rather many shades of gray. Reagor is a bust, neither of the other two were. They delivered tangible value at meaningful times during their careers. Barnett recovered a fumble in the Super Bowl win.

He could beat up Thor and Hulk and I’d still say he’s a bust. It’s ok to say he’s a bust. Wentz is a bust too but he did help win a SB that year. It happens.

 

[mattwill]

He could beat up Thor and Hulk and I’d still say he’s a bust. It’s ok to say he’s a bust. Wentz is a bust too but he did help win a SB that year. It happens.

You and I have very different definitions of bust. We will have to agree to disagree.

 

[Risen Star]

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

You and I have very different definitions of bust. We will have to agree to disagree.

A bust is a bust. There's only one way to describe one.

 

[OmerV]

I thought Barnett was one of the major pieces to their line. He's definitely better than Leonard isn't he?

Leonard was miles above Barnett when they were both at their best a few years ago. Not sure where either of them would stand today

 

[mattwill]

A bust is a bust. There's only one way to describe one.

It is clear that you never met an opinion of yours that you didn’t like.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

It is clear that you never met an opinion of yours that you didn’t like.

That doesn’t even make sense lol…..

 

[Pola_pe_a]

You expect more than average in the 1st round. You can get average in the 6th round....busts.

Look at every NFL draft, 50% of first round picks never see a second contract.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

Look at every NFL draft, 50% of first round picks never see a second contract.

And they are called what? BUSTS.

 

[SuperBowlz]

Bears needed Carter more than Philly. Their fans were screaming to draft him. Falcons and Raiders too. Stupid Falcons HC isn't even using Bijan properly. All three of those teams sucked and might gladly take Carter if a redraft was allowed. It's never a no brainer with character issues. Just stop already.

I think the team that really blew it was Detroit but they trade back from taking Carter to draft a RB when they had Swift. Dumb. Hutchinson and Carter would be big for them.