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[cnuball21]

You are exactly right. There for sure will be a stud receiver available at 24.

Add pass rusher to the list…really like this class of edge dudes.

 

[rambo2]

Well that's not at all the point lol.

The point is you can get a WR late in the second who is a comparable prospect - pick whichever two guys you want. You can't do that at OT.

Your point is probably wrong. The big receivers will fly off the board between picks 24 and 40. Leggette is comparable to D K Metcalf.

 

[cnuball21]

Well that's not at all the point lol.

The point is you can get a WR late in the second who is a comparable prospect - pick whichever two guys you want. You can't do that at OT.

Both groups are very deep. You could make the exact same argument you’re making for waiting to take an OT until the 2nd.

OT would be a great pick in the 1st…but if a stud WR falls that is a higher ranked player make the pick. Like OT, WR has become one of the most valuable positions in football so there isn’t really a value discussion here IMO.

 

[Mac_MaloneV1]

Your point is probably wrong. The big receivers will fly off the board between picks 24 and 40. Leggette is comparable to D K Metcalf.

Uh no it's not. The gap between the WR you get at 56 and 24 is less than the gap between the OT at the same spots. OTs are going to come off the board in this draft.

DK Metcalf was drafted 64th. The idea that big receivers fly off the board is not real.

 

[Mac_MaloneV1]

Both groups are very deep. You could make the exact same argument you’re making for waiting to take an OT until the 2nd.

OT would be a great pick in the 1st…but if a stud WR falls that is a higher ranked player make the pick. Like OT, WR has become one of the most valuable positions in football so there isn’t really a value discussion here IMO.

Not in this class. That top 10 or so is all going to be gone well before the Cowboys pick in the second.

After Odunze, Harrison and Nabers, there's no reason to take a WR at 24 for this team.

I love first-round WRs, I recognize their value. All I think you should ever draft in the first round is WRs and OL - maybe a passrusher. But this is an anomaly of an OT class and Dallas has potentially both spots up for grabs after next year, not to mention a hole at RG looming and position flex in these OTs. You can't risk waiting. You can risk missing out on one of the WRs becuase of the sheer volume there is.

 

[rambo2]

Uh no it's not. The gap between the WR you get at 56 and 24 is less than the gap between the OT at the same spots. OTs are going to come off the board in this draft.

DK Metcalf was drafted 64th. The idea that big receivers fly off the board is not real.

We will see. This draft is loaded with them. I suspect that the Cowboys will draft a linebacker in round 2.

 

[Mac_MaloneV1]

I suspect that the Cowboys will draft a linebacker in round 2.

I sure hope not!

 

[rambo2]

Both groups are very deep. You could make the exact same argument you’re making for waiting to take an OT until the 2nd.

OT would be a great pick in the 1st…but if a stud WR falls that is a higher ranked player make the pick. Like OT, WR has become one of the most valuable positions in football so there isn’t really a value discussion here IMO.

I think you are right. I think that they either take an olineman or a receiver in the 1st.

 

[rambo2]

I sure hope not!

Where would you get a linebacker?

 

[cnuball21]

Not in this class. That top 10 or so is all going to be gone well before the Cowboys pick in the second.

After Odunze, Harrison and Nabers, there's no reason to take a WR at 24 for this team.

I love first-round WRs, I recognize their value. All I think you should ever draft in the first round is WRs and OL - maybe a passrusher. But this is an anomaly of an OT class and Dallas has potentially both spots up for grabs after next year, not to mention a hole at RG looming and position flex in these OTs. You can't risk waiting. You can risk missing out on one of the WRs becuase of the sheer volume there is.

I just don’t you can go into a draft saying we have to take a certain position in round 1. I also disagree about the WR class…absolutely loaded and stronger than last year.

Last year 4 WRs were taken before pick 24 and 3 OTs were. Maybe it flips this year and more OTs go ahead but it will be comparable. Just take what the draft gives and don’t reach for need. If you have your 15th rated player drop that’s a WR and the best OT available is the 23rd ranked player take the WR.

 

[Mac_MaloneV1]

I just don’t you can go into a draft saying we have to take a certain position in round 1. I also disagree about the WR class…absolutely loaded and stronger than last year.

Last year 4 WRs were taken before pick 24 and 3 OTs were. Maybe it flips this year and more OTs go ahead but it will be comparable. Just take what the draft gives and don’t reach for need. If you have your 15th rated player drop that’s a WR and the best OT available is the 23rd ranked player take the WR.

I don't disagree with that, fundamentally.

But in THIS particular class, it is OTs. It is a deep WR class, but after that top 3 there's not as much of a gap between the player you can get at 24 and 56 as there would be at OT. Those top 3 aren't going to fall.

 

[Mac_MaloneV1]

Where would you get a linebacker?

Free agency lol.

I don't mind in later rounds, but this team has too many other important holes that can be filled by prospects in this draft. The gaps at OL and WR are well addressed by this draft class.

 

[cnuball21]

I don't disagree with that, fundamentally.

But in THIS particular class, it is OTs. It is a deep WR class, but after that top 3 there's not as much of a gap between the player you can get at 24 and 56 as there would be at OT. Those top 3 aren't going to fall.

Yea I just disagree with that. I think you’re discounting the WRs that are going to go 4-6ish.

I do agree you can likely still get a quality WR in the 2nd…but feel the same way about OT.

 

[cnuball21]

Free agency lol.

I don't mind in later rounds, but this team has too many other important holes that can be filled by prospects in this draft. The gaps at OL and WR are well addressed by this draft class.

100%!

 

[Sydla]

There isn't value in the back half of the first compared to the second round, especially as it compares to OT.

There's no reason to take, say, Legette in the first when you can just take Corley in the second.

It's interesting in seeing people again lobby for a WR in the first round.

I guess they just assume Tyron is gonna be healthy again in 2024. Which seems, ehhh, quite the risk.

 

[Sydla]

Yea I just disagree with that. I think you’re discounting the WRs that are going to go 4-6ish.

I do agree you can likely still get a quality WR in the 2nd…but feel the same way about OT.

What OT are you going to get at 56?

Just curious. Seems to me that when you look at the mocks and draft guides, there is a solid 6-7 OTs but when you get into that 50-70 range, the OT quality drops and what you actually find is a better run of interior players at OG and OC. Conversely, as Mac said, outside that top 3-4 WRs, you get rankings all over the place so it would indicate the value of taking a WR at 24 is depressed given there will be guys at 56 that probably aren't that far off from someone you could get at 24.

 

[Hardline]

Cooper at 24 seems like a bit of a reach

He won't even fall to #24.

 

[rambo2]

It's interesting in seeing people again lobby for a WR in the first round.

I guess they just assume Tyron is gonna be healthy again in 2024. Which seems, ehhh, quite the risk.

It's because there is an excellent chance that the best player available will be a receiver.

 

[Sydla]

It's because there is an excellent chance that the best player available will be a receiver.

More likely the best player will be an OL.

Unless you somehow think one of the top 2-3 will drop to 24. I mean sure, if Nabers falls to 24, that's a guy you probably have to take in that spot.

 

[cnuball21]

What OT are you going to get at 56?

Just curious. Seems to me that when you look at the mocks and draft guides, there is a solid 6-7 OTs but when you get into that 50-70 range, the OT quality drops and what you actually find is a better run of interior players at OG and OC. Conversely, as Mac said, outside that top 3-4 WRs, you get rankings all over the place so it would indicate the value of taking a WR at 24 is depressed given there will be guys at 56 that probably aren't that far off from someone you could get at 24.

PFF has 10 guys in their top 50 for OT and 11 at WR so whoever the top guy is that falls. OKs Guyton is intriguing. I’d argue there is a drop off from guys like Legette, Franklin and Thomas for what will be available in the 2nd.

Again I’m not advocating for taking a WR at 24…just saying take the best player available at a money position. We got a lot of needs.