CFZ Early look at the NFC East-gap is growing smaller

[Flamma]

It's been 15 years since they have won back to back conference championships. We say this always thinking they will build on the previous season. This year they didn't even try to build on last year's success. But other teams did. I wish I had y'all's confidence but years of watching these idiots has taught me not to trust them.

Who won back to back conference championships 15 years ago? Did you mean Div. titles? We didn't even do that 15 years ago.

The Cowboys don't build on the previous season. They haven't for quite some time now.

 

[charron]

Who won back to back conference championships 15 years ago? Did you mean Div. titles? We didn't even do that 15 years ago.

The Cowboys don't build on the previous season. They haven't for quite some time now.

I meant division sorry

 

[Flamma]

The thread was about this season.

Obviously it is a very high probability that they draft a QB next year. Ideally the Eagles will be the 2nd best team in the division and if the Saints are good, then 2 picks in the twenties still makes it difficult to move to #1 overall.

Well, this year they're not getting a QB. And I agree, if they make the playoffs moving up would take a lot. But they don't have to move up to #1. All they need is a team not looking for QB to be in the top 5.

 

[Flamma]

I meant division sorry

I figured. But the Cowboys were a wildcard in 2006.

 

[Bullflop]

The bragging rights for the NFL's Eastern Division can be determined in the divisional playoffs and not before.

Any claims to be made today are nothing more than wishful thinking. It's always fun to consider for many fans.

It's normally pleasant to consider when you happen to be a fan of a team having a good chance as the winner.

 

[jterrell]

It's been 15 years since they have won back to back conference championships. We say this always thinking they will build on the previous season. This year they didn't even try to build on last year's success. But other teams did. I wish I had y'all's confidence but years of watching these idiots has taught me not to trust them.

The Cowboys best seasons of those 15 years have come when they had young draft talent emerge.
Running it back with the vet laden squads is when they fell short.

The Cowboys have the best single OL: Martin
The best CB in Diggs
The best overall defensive player in Parsons
The best QB in Dak
The best RB in Zeke

They went 12-5 last year and won the division by 3 games.
They did that with Dak coming off of major injury and surgery, Collins getting suspended 6 games, The WR room all getting COVID in a week of each other.
I don't think the Cowboys win the division by 3 games but they are still easily the best team in the division.

Vegas:
DAL 10.5 wins
PHI 9.5 wins
WAS 8 wins
NYG 7 wins

 

[xwalker]

Dean is no where near Parsons physically. Not in the same universe. He's 6' and 225 pounds. AND slower than Parsons
That is goofy talk for not very smart people, don't buy into it.

Dean is dependent on the DL and scheme.

He is not remotely close to Parsons but nobody else is either.

If the DL keeps him relatively clean, he can be a terrific player. His speed is probably Sean Lee in his prime equivalent.

 

[xwalker]

The bigger problem is finding the QB worth the picks in the draft.
Wentz wasn't that guy. DAL sat and picked a better QB via sheer dumb luck in R4.
PHI doesn't have a 3-year roster. A lot of that talent on those lines is 30. And guys like AJ and Slay will be earning megabucks in 12 months when the heat of their deals kick in.

PHI couldn't sit back and play towards those picks they went out and tried to upgrade the roster regardless of QB.

The 2023 draft appears to be much better at QB than the 2022 draft.

Maybe the Eagles give up 5 first round picks for Aaron Rodgers...Jordan Love is going into his 3rd season...he'll be a wasted 1st round pick if he hits free agency before becoming the starter.

 

[CouchCoach]

Dean is no where near Parsons physically. Not in the same universe. He's 6' and 225 pounds. AND slower than Parsons
That is goofy talk for not very smart people, don't buy into it.

That is not the comparison I am making, I am talking impact on the defense. I watched every game that was televised of UGA and he was the best and most consistent player on the D in every game.

He's sideline to sideline, good reads and instincts and could be the next Bobby Wagner or Luke Kuechly, if he's good to go health wise.

 

[CouchCoach]

Dean is dependent on the DL and scheme.

He is not remotely close to Parsons but nobody else is either.

If the DL keeps him relatively clean, he can be a terrific player. His speed is probably Sean Lee in his prime equivalent.

Dean is on a better defense, scheme and talent wise than the Cowboys offer. I was hoping for him as he could have been Quinn's Deion Jones but DL go before LB's.

 

[CCBoy]

The 2023 draft appears to be much better at QB than the 2022 draft.

Maybe the Eagles give up 5 first round picks for Aaron Rodgers...Jordan Love is going into his 3rd season...he'll be a wasted 1st round pick if he hits free agency before becoming the starter.

 

[CCBoy]

Dean is on a better defense, scheme and talent wise than the Cowboys offer. I was hoping for him as he could have been Quinn's Deion Jones but DL go before LB's.

I'll argue here and now, the term better...

 

[CouchCoach]

The 2023 draft appears to be much better at QB than the 2022 draft.

Maybe the Eagles give up 5 first round picks for Aaron Rodgers...Jordan Love is going into his 3rd season...he'll be a wasted 1st round pick if he hits free agency before becoming the starter.

There are more than several teams eying the 2023 QB class with make it or break it 1st contract QB's like the Giants.

 

[xwalker]

Well, this year they're not getting a QB. And I agree, if they make the playoffs moving up would take a lot. But they don't have to move up to #1. All they need is a team not looking for QB to be in the top 5.

It is literally the luck of the draw with regards to drafting QBs. Even for teams drafting #1 overall, some years there just isn't much to choose from.

In 2016 it was Wentz and Goff at the top. Neither was a great option. I thought Wentz was better than Goff but neither was worth a top 10 pick, IMO.

 

[NumOneQB]

It comes down to the best QB play in the East. Washington & NY don’t have one. Hurts will be key on how tight the race in the East will be, obviously. I expect Dak to be solid again.

 

[Teague31]

Fake News.

Hurts, Wentz and Jones tells you all you need to know.

 

[CouchCoach]

I'll argue here and now, the term better...

I would take the PHL D over DAL without hesitation before they drafted. DAL was only better in picks and we'll see if they can repeat that.

Do not let the lucky addition of Parsons slant your opinion. If they'd picked Horn or Surtain, this defense would have been the same poor run D it had been and they hit a homer with Parsons.

The DAL D is Diggs and Parsons, I do not see another standout player.....yet. Vander Esch was the best D player in the playoff game so I do have some hope for him and he will need to deliver if they have to use Parsons too much to generate a pass rush. The Niners run game is what beat them in the playoffs. Did they fix that?

 

[jterrell]

Dean is dependent on the DL and scheme.

He is not remotely close to Parsons but nobody else is either.

If the DL keeps him relatively clean, he can be a terrific player. His speed is probably Sean Lee in his prime equivalent.

Yes a much more apropos comparison.
Dean played behind the best DL in college football.
He won't be as "clean" this year by any means.
And he might not be healthy enough to get the full rookie camp experience.
I think he can be a good football player there but Parsons was a legit Defensive Player of the year candidate as a rookie and compares more to someone like LT than Dean.

 

[jterrell]

I would take the PHL D over DAL without hesitation before they drafted. DAL was only better in picks and we'll see if they can repeat that.

Do not let the lucky addition of Parsons slant your opinion. If they'd picked Horn or Surtain, this defense would have been the same poor run D it had been and they hit a homer with Parsons.

The DAL D is Diggs and Parsons, I do not see another standout player.....yet. Vander Esch was the best D player in the playoff game so I do have some hope for him and he will need to deliver if they have to use Parsons too much to generate a pass rush. The Niners run game is what beat them in the playoffs. Did they fix that?

Dallas scored 92 points against the Eagles last year in two games.

 

[jterrell]

The 2023 draft appears to be much better at QB than the 2022 draft.

Maybe the Eagles give up 5 first round picks for Aaron Rodgers...Jordan Love is going into his 3rd season...he'll be a wasted 1st round pick if he hits free agency before becoming the starter.

Rodgers will handpick where he goes but it is unlikely he goes anywhere given his contract.
The dead money GB would eat is astronomical.

The draft produces 1 franchise QB about every 2.5 seasons. Odds are just not ever good.
And if a team feels they have that guy at 1,2,3 they double down and keep him.
Even when you do hit as in Josh Allen it may take a few years.

QB is a position you either have or you do not. Planning to get one is a lot like planning to hit the lottery.

Its' why they make 40m a year.

The entire reason the Eagles roster looks good is they can spend that 40M on other players.