Early Predictions for 2006

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SkinsFan26 said:
What have the Boys done for you lately? I enjoyed last season. Did you?

Notice instead of replying to my post you make assanine statements. This is why you are a troll you can not have an actual conversation and be honest about your team.


If winning the weakest playoff of all time before getting sent home is enjoyable for you have at it. Me I enjoy Superbowls and deep playoff runs. When you accomplish either let us know.

Who knows maybe the league will strike in a couple years :)
 

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BigDFan5 said:
getting TO is easily defendable. TO without a doubt is a top 3 wr in the NFL. You can hope and wish he hurts us, but the fact remains on the field he is a top 3 WR and a weapon, and he has never hurt anyone in his first season with them.

I agree, he's a great player.

But you just said it for me. He's awful for the team. Enjoy your one-year-rental-WR. Your owner made a deal with the devil. Snyder was not the egocentric, desperate owner who signed this big name FA. Your guy was. Congrats on that.
 

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I personally think that TO will be a major asset if you all can control him from getting out of hand. If you can, hey thats great for you guys, if not hey thats great for everyone in the NFC east. Its a big gamble, but one that might pay off for you.

Another question that I have is who have you gotten in FA to fill the OL hole or was it mainly injury?
 

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Bizwah said:
You are lazy.

You're not reading the posts....only parts of them.

I don't know that too many on here are predicting a Super Bowl for the Cowboys.

And we aren't basing improvement on only ONE player....there are many. Including all the ones that were injured and missed more than six games.

Your team went to the playoffs and had a better record. But all that's on borrowed time and you know it. The ONLY reason you were allowed back into the game was because the Cowboys and Giants were snakebitten by injuries to key players....mulitple injuries....we were rolling before that happened.

Now, I'm not making excuses. Injuries are a part of the game. We weren't good enough to overcome them. So, we went into the offseason and acquired depth.

I don't really see how your team is going to be all that improved.

Moss is great. Great year. But Randel-el doesn't scare me, and Lloyd is average at best. Our defense has three standout CBs. Newman didn't allow one TD pass all last season, Henry was having a great year until a series of injuries cut his season short, and Glenn filled in admirably. Add a FS into the mix, and we may have the best secondary in all of football.

You added Andre Carter. Here's a player that had one pretty good year, but otherwise has been average. He's undersized, and will be a liability vs the run. I like Flozell being lined up over him in running situations.

Archuleta paired with Taylor will be pretty good. Unlike most here, I won't knock your secondary too bad. But they'll be put to the test while facing Owens, Glenn, Crayton, and Witten.

How have we improved?

We added Kosier, Boiman, and Hamnan as solid depth/STs. We added a solid RT (you all ate Pettiti for lunch last game) in Fabini. We added one of the best kickers in the NFL in Vanderjagt (we win vs Seattle, Denver, and the first Wash game with a good kicker). We're adding a solid LB with size to man the middle of the 3-4 in Ayodele. And we added the game's most talented WR in Owens (he's joining an already good receiving group).

At one point in the season, we were starting five rookies...yes, five rookies. Four of them distinguised themselves, and were very impressive. Three were stand-out defensive players. Ware had eight sacks and three FF. Canty wasn't even supposed to contribute last year, but had a fine year. He'll be in his second season removed from a knee injury. Spears had a great camp until a knee and ankle injury hampered his development. He came on towards the end of the season.

To top everything off, we're getting back Adams, Singleton, Henry, Jones, and Crayton. These are players that missed six games or more last season.

So why can't we be excited?

Let's review....

-Year two in 3-4.
-Injured players returning that were key players.
-New players that provide depth and fill in missing components
-key rookies in year two

You all were not that much better than us recordwise. Talentwise, we surpass you.

You've had a solid offseason.....

-you've marginally upgraded your WR corps
-you've upgraded depth along the DL, but may have sacrificed size
-you've improved at Safety
-you hired some very good coordinators....this was your best offseason move.

So you can see why, from our perspective anyway, why we think we're better than you all.

I agree that Dallas is a better team than last year. Period. The Boys and Skins have certainly passed the NYG and Eagles.

But I think the Skins were better last year and did more to improve this year. So, I think they will be a better team in 06. It's that simple.

TO is scum. Enjoy him.
 

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Bizwah said:
You are lazy.

You're not reading the posts....only parts of them.

I don't know that too many on here are predicting a Super Bowl for the Cowboys.

And we aren't basing improvement on only ONE player....there are many. Including all the ones that were injured and missed more than six games.

Your team went to the playoffs and had a better record. But all that's on borrowed time and you know it. The ONLY reason you were allowed back into the game was because the Cowboys and Giants were snakebitten by injuries to key players....mulitple injuries....we were rolling before that happened.

Now, I'm not making excuses. Injuries are a part of the game. We weren't good enough to overcome them. So, we went into the offseason and acquired depth.

I don't really see how your team is going to be all that improved.

Moss is great. Great year. But Randel-el doesn't scare me, and Lloyd is average at best. Our defense has three standout CBs. Newman didn't allow one TD pass all last season, Henry was having a great year until a series of injuries cut his season short, and Glenn filled in admirably. Add a FS into the mix, and we may have the best secondary in all of football.

You added Andre Carter. Here's a player that had one pretty good year, but otherwise has been average. He's undersized, and will be a liability vs the run. I like Flozell being lined up over him in running situations.

Archuleta paired with Taylor will be pretty good. Unlike most here, I won't knock your secondary too bad. But they'll be put to the test while facing Owens, Glenn, Crayton, and Witten.

How have we improved?

We added Kosier, Boiman, and Hamnan as solid depth/STs. We added a solid RT (you all ate Pettiti for lunch last game) in Fabini. We added one of the best kickers in the NFL in Vanderjagt (we win vs Seattle, Denver, and the first Wash game with a good kicker). We're adding a solid LB with size to man the middle of the 3-4 in Ayodele. And we added the game's most talented WR in Owens (he's joining an already good receiving group).

At one point in the season, we were starting five rookies...yes, five rookies. Four of them distinguised themselves, and were very impressive. Three were stand-out defensive players. Ware had eight sacks and three FF. Canty wasn't even supposed to contribute last year, but had a fine year. He'll be in his second season removed from a knee injury. Spears had a great camp until a knee and ankle injury hampered his development. He came on towards the end of the season.

To top everything off, we're getting back Adams, Singleton, Henry, Jones, and Crayton. These are players that missed six games or more last season.

So why can't we be excited?

Let's review....

-Year two in 3-4.
-Injured players returning that were key players.
-New players that provide depth and fill in missing components
-key rookies in year two

You all were not that much better than us recordwise. Talentwise, we surpass you.

You've had a solid offseason.....

-you've marginally upgraded your WR corps
-you've upgraded depth along the DL, but may have sacrificed size
-you've improved at Safety
-you hired some very good coordinators....this was your best offseason move.

So you can see why, from our perspective anyway, why we think we're better than you all.


Good Post
 

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HeavyHitta31 said:
How many sacks did Griffin have?

He is a DT, and getting sacks really isn't his responsibility in GW's defense. He had 4 sacks, and since he's generally asked to collapse the pocket and stuff the run, that is pretty good. How about you ask honest, relevant questions?
 

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SkinsFan26 said:
Defend this acquistion.

Actually, little fool...it's your team that is going to have to "defend this acquistion"! :laugh2:

JJ paid the cash to aquire a verfied talent!

What did little Snyder do...he paid large amounts of money to 2nd tier players!

Get real...!

Now, I'll tell you what? I don't know how TO is going to work out, but, you can bet your bottom dollar, the next time the Cowboys play your team...it WILL BE A DIFFERENT BALLGAME!
 

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While we're at this relentless debate, I'm going to address a common misconception on this board.

Antwaan Randle El will be a huge addition for the Skins. He will get a few ST TD's. He will throw a few TD's. He will catch a few TD's. Someone at extremeskins put together a video. Have a look and tell me that he will not be an impact player next year.

http://s50.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=358D2LASDJTAK31H16XMM6CDMM
 

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HailTheRedSkins said:
I dont think that the Commanders had too many holes to fill- and seeing how we dont have a big draft coming- we presuded heavily for the players that we needed in FA.

What about youth? What about depth? What about continunity?

Who is your team going to pick in the 1st round this coming draft?

:laugh2:
 

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SkinsFan26 said:
What have the Boys done for you lately? I enjoyed last season. Did you?

RedStink logic! :laugh2:

Yo, little buddie...last year was last year! :laugh1:
 

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5Stars said:
Actually, little fool...it's your team that is going to have to "defend this acquistion"! :laugh2:

JJ paid the cash to aquire a verfied talent!

What did little Snyder do...he paid large amounts of money to 2nd tier players!

Get real...!

Now, I'll tell you what? I don't know how TO is going to work out, but, you can bet your bottom dollar, the next time the Cowboys play your team...it WILL BE A DIFFERENT BALLGAME!

It will be fun. although I think time will prove you wrong that ARL was a bad move, we will see. If nothing else it gives us more room to work the run with three maybe four WR.
 

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5Stars said:
RedStink logic! :laugh2:

Yo, little buddie...last year was last year! :laugh1:

That was a taste of Cowboys logic. Like reliving the past. I'll puke if I hear how the Cowboys have won x/x games in this rivalry.

Looks like things are changing. :laugh1:
 

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BigDFan5 said:
Lets see Ware as a rookie had more sacks, more pressures and more tackles.

Its funny you say Washington is definately better yet Ware in his first season had more sacks then Washington did since his second year.

Furthermore Ware is coming into year 2 while Washington is coming into year 7.

How are sacks somehow the only determinant to who is a better LB? :laugh2: Come on, are you serious? Is that the best you can come up with? He had .5 more sacks than Washington, oh no! That says alot!! :laugh1:

I love how every Boyz fan on here loves to quote stats to back up their arguments, yet ignores the stats that go against it. Stats like Washington having more tackles, more assisted tackles, more defensed passes, more interceptions, more plays behind the line of scrimmage.

Yet somehow, the Skins "trolls" never know what they're talking about. :rolleyes:
 

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I personally think that TO will be a major asset if you all can control him from getting out of hand. If you can, hey thats great for you guys, if not hey thats great for everyone in the NFC east. Its a big gamble, but one that might pay off for you.

Another question that I have is who have you gotten in FA to fill the OL hole or was it mainly injury?

We were one of the top offenses in the NFL until Flo went down with an injury.

Here's the story of our offensive line last season.

Rivera injures his back the day after we sign him. He never has time to recover before the season starts. He was a Pro-Bowler before his injury.

Jacob Rogers was making great progress in the offseason. Parcells gambled that he'd be the missing piece at RT. He lost. Rogers went and had knee surgery without consent from the team. We went into the season with a rookie 6th round pick at RT. He acquitted himself well until Flo went down. We could no longer help him because we had Tucker at LT. Ugly......

Allen was solid, but only a shell of his former self. I wish we still had him...but you move on.

So, we get Flo back...he's a Pro-Bowler at LT. All reports have him on schedule to start TC.

We signed Kosier who's a good fill in at LG. Admittedly, I'm worried here. I think he'll provide solid depth for us....I hope Peterman or a rookie draft pick wins this spot.

We're status quo at Center. We didn't necessarily have a weakness here last year, but it was not a strenght. It was Johnson's second year starting. We can definitely stand for improvement here, but I don't think this position kills us.

RG will be manned by Rivera. Back injuries are tricky, but he'll be a year removed from surgery. If he reverts to his PB form, then we'll have no worries here. Depth is key here.

RT is vastly improved by the signing of Fabini. Pettiti filled in admirably. He finally was outmanned at the end of the season. He also played most of the year on a bad right ankle. We should be fine here. I wouldn't be surprised to see us draft an OT high either.

Honestly, we could still use some help here. But Fabini and Kosier are both good in pass pro, so that should help Bledsoe.

I'd give our OL a grade of "C"....average....nothing more. There's still the draft to reckon with though.
 

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How are sacks somehow the only determinant to who is a better LB? :laugh2: Come on, are you serious? Is that the best you can come up with? He had .5 more sacks than Washington, oh no! That says alot!! :laugh1:

I love how every Boyz fan on here loves to quote stats to back up their arguments, yet ignores the stats that go against it. Stats like Washington having more tackles, more assisted tackles, more defensed passes, more interceptions, more plays behind the line of scrimmage.

Yet somehow, the Skins "trolls" never know what they're talking about. :rolleyes:

I think most Cowboy fans will admit that Washington and Griffin are better than Ware.

But can you really admit that Clemons and Marshall are better than Ware?

Show some stats.....BTW, tackles are stats that are kept by teams. So, they're hard to compare.

Sacks, FF, and INTs aren't.....
 

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Bizwah said:
I think most Cowboy fans will admit that Washington and Griffin are better than Ware.

But can you really admit that Clemons and Marshall are better than Ware?

Show some stats.....BTW, tackles are stats that are kept by teams. So, they're hard to compare.

Sacks, FF, and INTs aren't.....

OK, if stats are your thing.

Lemar Marshall had almost twice as many tackles (98-58)

Lemar Marshall had 4 INT, Ware had none.

Lemar Marshall scored a TD, Ware did not.

Ware had more sacks. But I think Ware was sent after the QB 10 times more often than Marshall.

So is Lemar Marshall better in your book?
 

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Bizwah said:
I think most Cowboy fans will admit that Washington and Griffin are better than Ware.

But can you really admit that Clemons and Marshall are better than Ware?

Show some stats.....BTW, tackles are stats that are kept by teams. So, they're hard to compare.

Sacks, FF, and INTs aren't.....

I used nfl.com to compare the tackles of both players, not each teams' website where the numbers would likely be the same or higher. Regardless of this, Washington trounces Ware in nearly every category. Ware only had .5 more sacks than Washington, they had the same amount of forced fumbles, and Washington had 1 INT when Ware had none. The rest of the stats go Washington's way. Futhermore, football is about more than just statistics. The statistics never show how many times a player gets beat in coverage, or missed tackles, or blown assignments. By doing extensive research at websites that keep track of such things, you'll find Marcus Washington doesn't have very high numbers in those three categories.

I never mentioned Chris Clemons, an undrafted project of Gregg Williams who is still coming along. I know Ware is better than Clemons. Unlike some people in this thread, I'm not a homer and I can admit these things. Marshall on the other hand, is another undrafted player who Williams has turned into as solid a MLB as you can get. He's great in coverage, plays the zone well, and he's extremely smart. He's a player, that came in and took over as the mic for this defense when Antonio Pierce left, and was only slightly worse in that aspect that Pierce was. Yes, Marshall is better than Ware, because without Lemar this defense would've did a complete 180 from the 2004 season.
 
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