Eberflus defensive scheme(s)

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Oh great so another defense that looks good vs weak teams but gets mauled by everyone else. Great.
 

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This scheme is exactly what we had before that was exposed against the better teams.
Eberflus DEF in Chicago was ranked around 25th this season.

Why do the Cowboys continue to look at these schemes with small DT's and the obsession with 3T's.

Rex Ryan should have been the hire
Rex Ryan is a joke of a hire. Bears had personnel issues last year not scheme issues.

I will say our stats look eerily similar to the Bears stats though.
 

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Oh great so another defense that looks good vs weak teams but gets mauled by everyone else. Great.
Possibly. But at the end of the they spent a lot of resources on offense and if they aren’t going to be formidable none of it matters. An effective offense can cover up some defensive woes.
 

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:clap:Got to have at least a few of HIS kind of players. Any a decent DC can hide holes but that sh.... shows up against elite teams and postseason.
Yep. Always does. If you have a bad offensive line? Yes you can make the playoffs but I guarantee you it will show up in the playoffs and you will fail. Can’t stop the run? It will eventually get you in the playoffs. Trenches are incredibly important. Mahomes has never won a ring with bad play in the trenches. Eagles year in and out focus on it. Cowboys have to take it serious.

But then I see Neville Gallimore in the playoffs and see Malik Collins and I wonder is it the players? They don’t seem to look bad leaving here…
 

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Possibly. But at the end of the they spent a lot of resources on offense and if they aren’t going to be formidable none of it matters. An effective offense can cover up some defensive woes.
Some yes, but they need a run game to help hide the defense. This DL losing its 2 best interior players is going to hurt.
 

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I don’t see an improvement here vs the run. He wants the Marinelli type DTs that can penetrate up field and rush the passer.

All his front 7 players are below average in size, strength, and weight.

I fail to see how this helps us stop the run. It is like we are going back to the concepts under Rod and hoping somehow they will work this time.

IMO— this kind of D will get absolutely mauled by the better teams in the league who are built with great OLs. The “small athletic” DLs highlighted in this article will just get blasted off the ball.

More of the same I am afraid. The more things “change” the more they stay the same.
The Eagles and Saquon love this news
 

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Eberflus runs the same scheme as Marinelli. This means quick twitch undersized lineman that struggle stopping the run, something I have been hoping they move away from and add bigger personnel.

You can expect OSA to be resigned and Mazi becoming a terrible fit in his scheme. Zone coverage where we excel in man coverage.

Hate the hire as much as the head coach
Not a huge fan of him but you missed the key point - he relies upon a great middle LB (and other LB) to make the tackles

The scheme can work - it’s hard to hit on great, large DTs. Easier to find linebackers
 

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This franchise is addicted to safe.

It's like we have to keep going through Jason Garrett for eternity.
But the things is it’s not even safe. It’s a huge risk and I don’t get why you risk on these guys. Safe would’ve been Pete Carroll….or a McCarthy type hire. This is comfort but risky. Well maybe not. It’s risky from my perspective but I don’t think the Cowboys view it that way until their pockets get hit. And another season like last year I would think hits their pockets but I guess they have to see it to believe it. In danger of losing future fans because you’ve sucked so long.
 

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But the things is it’s not even safe. It’s a huge risk and I don’t get why you risk on these guys. Safe would’ve been Pete Carroll….or a McCarthy type hire. This is comfort but risky. Well maybe not. It’s risky from my perspective but I don’t think the Cowboys view it that way until their pockets get hit. And another season like last year I would think hits their pockets but I guess they have to see it to believe it. In danger of losing future fans because you’ve sucked so long.
Sorry, let me be clear what I mean by 'safe'.

Generic, conservative, safe coaches who don't move the needle one way or the another. Who tiptoe the line in the media and say or do nothing special or interesting or honest. Who run vanilla schemes that are predicated on not making mistakes.

Coaches that can't have a personality other than corporate stooge, who won't ever give meaningful, honest answers or hold players accountable in public.

For reference, watch a Parcells press conference and a press conference from every coach we've employed ever since.
 

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I don’t see an improvement here vs the run. He wants the Marinelli type DTs that can penetrate up field and rush the passer.

All his front 7 players are below average in size, strength, and weight.

I fail to see how this helps us stop the run. It is like we are going back to the concepts under Rod and hoping somehow they will work this time.

IMO— this kind of D will get absolutely mauled by the better teams in the league who are built with great OLs. The “small athletic” DLs highlighted in this article will just get blasted off the ball.

More of the same I am afraid. The more things “change” the more they stay the same.
It ultimately doesn't matter who coaches the defense, it is a dumpster fire. There's more holes than Swiss cheese. Green, Black and Grey are free agents.

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Same here which is why I have tried to learn more about him/his scheme since leaving. So it's basically a Tampa 2....


Matt Eberlus' defensive scheme is based on seven players in coverage, often using a cover-2 zone. This style is sometimes called "vanilla".

How it works
  • Blitzing: Sending the nickel to the passing strength to limit wide-zone runs and attack RPOs

  • Sending the slot/overhang: On early downs, this helps the defense build a wall against the run

  • Mixing up coverages: Eberlus keeps the Bears defense competitive by mixing up coverages and breaking his own tendencie
The tampa 2 defensive scheme is a bend don't break system. Keep everything in front of you and limit the big passing plays. It relies on the front 4 to generate quick pressure without the use of the blitz. Zone coverage where communication is paramount.

Playing shell coverage makes a defense susceptible against the run, also undersized fronts tend to ware down as they consistently defend long, time consuming drives. Deep DL rotation is very important.
 

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This scheme is exactly what we had before that was exposed against the better teams.
Eberflus DEF in Chicago was ranked around 25th this season.

Why do the Cowboys continue to look at these schemes with small DT's and the obsession with 3T's.

Rex Ryan should have been the hire
Been doing a ton of research since early in the season on how they have to change this scheme to become more consistent stopping the run. It is all about having bigger personnel. Now want to continue with the same scheme that has failed for several years, makes zero sense. It's like they are trying to re-create Dak's rookie season, style of play.
 

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Not a huge fan of him but you missed the key point - he relies upon a great middle LB (and other LB) to make the tackles

The scheme can work - it’s hard to hit on great, large DTs. Easier to find linebackers
When you look at those Tampa defenses, Warren Sapp was the most impactful player on that unit. Rice, Brooks, Barber, Lynch were all elite players, but Sapp was the biggest reason why that defense was so good, not the linebacker.
 

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When you look at those Tampa defenses, Warren Sapp was the most impactful player on that unit. Rice, Brooks, Barber, Lynch were all elite players, but Sapp was the biggest reason why that defense was so good, not the linebacker.
So you are saying if we could draft Mason Graham........
 
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