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TheSkaven;2561340 said:
How does he go from boy genius to incompetent in one year? Seriously, guys...

Garrett is a great offensive mind, but players need to execute. The whole offense is to blame, from Tony locking in on Witten, to Owens and his dropped passes, to Roy Williams running terrible routes, to the injuries to our running backs, and most importantly, an offensive line that looked like a shell of it's former self.
yep, and Garrett must be still be highly thought of if he got interviews in Denver and Detroit.
 

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DaBoys4Life;2560570 said:
So 4 above average games is enough to validate 3 years of being mediocore?

3 years? 2, and even then, most of the time Stewart was coaching the defense..

It is quite clear that Wade improved this defense in his short-span as DC... This team led the league in sacks, and he didn't even coordinate the defense the whole year... Where the hell were they when BP was here?
 

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Check the TOP, it's not like the defense was on the field for a ridiculous amount of time. Also, you said that the defense was tired of bailing the offense out, not that they were tired. What you said implied that they just gave up.

In all honesty, it doesn't matter what a team does through 3 quarters, it matters what they do through 4. The offense put up 24 points on a team that allowed an average of 15 per game. Only 4 other opponents scored 20+ on Baltimore this year, 3 of them won. The offense scored enough points. It doesn't matter if the majority came in the 4th quarter, points in the 4th are worth just as much as points at any other point in the game. Or would you be happier if we had scored 7 in the first, 3 in the second, 7 in the third and 7 in the fourth? It doesn't matter, we still would have lost.

That game is on the defense, not the offense, not Garrett.


1. My mistake on the english, but I think it is obvious I meant the defense was tired. You don't play 3 and a half quarters of damn good football, just to quit on two drives.

2. BS... the game was on the offense... 6 of those minutes of TOP came only on one drive for the Cowboys and that was in the 4th... Those TOPs came late in the game, and I don't care how you try and deny it... This team had 5 3 and outs, which is just plain awful and during the 2nd and third quarters, almost one after the other. If it wasn't a 3 and out, it was a 4 drive series, ending in a punt or INT. There five play series were just as pathetic. One series after the other, the offense didn't do jack squat, while Baltrimore systematically ran the ball and chewed up the clock, while Garrett chose to fling the ball downfiled, over and over again. A team that continually pounds away, wears the front four down. You can't dispute it.. It was a consistent staple with this offense.

Out of those 24 points, 14 of them were from no huddle and it happened like that against the Eagles as well. When the Cowboys wnet no-huddle, the coaching of Garrett was reduced to a minimum and the Cowboys marched down the field. They had to rely on a option to Witten on the fly, with a pass to TO as well. The only difference between it and the Ravens game was that the fast-paced resulted in two fumbles by the Cowboys. That type of 'offense' is what you get with the Cowboys, because there coaching is horrible on offense. One week they may score, the next week, Romo's feet runs right into the heart of protection, and he gets hit, causing a fumble.

BTW, the Ravens were playing prevent during that time, and they are known to give up points like that at the end of games..

It does matter when the points come. Like I said, and you simply ignored, how many times did you see Emmitt break his long runs in the 4th quarter, despite the opposing defenses knowing it was coming?

It is all on Garrett.. That is a fact, and Romo called him out, TO called him out, and even Newman called him out...

Garrett sucks plain and simple...
 

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dcfanatic;2560589 said:
I love this 'Wade took over the defense' stuff.

Where was he for two years? Working on the offense? lol.

If he was so smart he would have 'took over the defense' when Jerry hired him because it's the exact reason he was brought to Dallas.

Instead he moped around being Brian Stewart's BFF in letting him get some on the job training. That was a huge failure.

And if Stewart is still the DC next season then what? Wade is probably going to give him another shot at running the defense once again.

Doesn't matter... Wade did take over the defense and he showed that he could coach the living hell out of the defense. The difference is Jason Garrett has total freedom to coach, and he can't do jack squat when he coaches. Hopefully Wade has learned his lesson not to give the reigns to incompetent people..

Funny thing is, Brian Stewart has about as much experience as Jason Garrett coaching... Funny how people want Stewart canned, but not Garrett... I guess on the job training if alright for Garrett, but not Stewart... At least this team can alays fall back on Wade, who can they fall back on when the offense stinks...
 

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Seems a lot of the same guys that always said Ed Reed couldn't hold Roy Williams jock sure have a lot of respect for what he says.
 

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khiladi;2561502 said:
Doesn't matter... Wade did take over the defense and he showed that he could coach the living hell out of the defense. The difference is Jason Garrett has total freedom to coach, and he can't do jack squat when he coaches. Hopefully Wade has learned his lesson not to give the reigns to incompetent people..

Funny thing is, Brian Stewart has about as much experience as Jason Garrett coaching... Funny how people want Stewart canned, but not Garrett... I guess on the job training if alright for Garrett, but not Stewart... At least this team can alays fall back on Wade, who can they fall back on when the offense stinks...

It doesn't matter the HEAD COACH was allowing the defense to stink when he could have been more involved and have them playing at a higher level?

Why are we always just thinking of Wade as this D Cor who just came on board and saved the defense?

He's been here as long as everyone else.

And if Garrett had one bad season, then what's Wade and Stew's excuse for having a season and half of ineptitude?

And just for good measure.

Let's not forget both sides of the ball stunk it up in the most important game of the season. Neither side of the ball was worth a crap in Philly.
 

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dcfanatic;2561530 said:
It doesn't matter the HEAD COACH was allowing the defense to stink when he could have been more involved and have them playing at a higher level?

Why are we always just thinking of Wade as this D Cor who just came on board and saved the defense?

He's been here as long as everyone else.

And if Garrett had one bad season, then what's Wade and Stew's excuse for having a season and half of ineptitude?

And just for good measure.

Let's not forget bth sides of the ball stunk it up in the most important game of the season. Neither side of the ball was worth a crap in Philly.
it's a joke man. Garret controlled the O and Stewart controlled the D so what did Wade exactly do? pay for the dj and party favors during practice?
 

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Rampage;2561535 said:
it's a joke man. Garret controlled the O and Stewart controlled the D so what did Wade exactly do? pay for the dj and party favors during practice?

Jimmy Johnson let his coordinators coordinate...
 

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khiladi;2561537 said:
Jimmy Johnson let his coordinators coordinate...
he also held them accountable for there mistakes amongst other things that we know Wade doesn't do.
 

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It doesn't matter the HEAD COACH was allowing the defense to stink when he could have been more involved and have them playing at a higher level?

They didn't sink last year. While I agree they went vanillah last year, it was the offense that choked last year in the lay-offs. The fact is, we know Wade can coach when he coaches.

Why are we always just thinking of Wade as this D Cor who just came on board and saved the defense?

He's been here as long as everyone else.

Because he did save this defense, and the defense led the league in sacks. This team wasn't prdocuing sacks for over ten years, and with Wade taking it over, the team went mad... Ware almost brke the sack record. Like I said, the fact is, this proves that wade can coach a defense up. With Garrett, he had all the talent in the world and couldn't do jack squat.

And if Garrett had one bad season, then what's Wade and Stew's excuse for having a season and half of ineptitude?

And just for good measure.

Let's not forget bth sides of the ball stunk it up in the most important game of the season. Neither side of the ball was worth a crap in Philly.

Garrett had a season and a half of ineptitude. Last year, this defense wasn't that bad, so it wasn't inept. It was inept in the beginning of the year and it was never inept when Wade was the DC.

The last three games were just as relevant. Dallas only needed to win one of them, and the defense performed 2 out of 3 times. The offense failed 3 out of 3 times.
 

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Rampage;2561541 said:
he also held them accountable for there mistakes amongst other things that we know Wade doesn't do.

Is that why he kept Bruce Read? Wait, he didn't... Garret was made Assistant Head Coach by Jerry, and hired before Wade was here. If Wade had his choice, we most likely would have had Cad Cameron as coach, and a running game, and most likely in the play-offs right now...
 

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khiladi;2561537 said:
Jimmy Johnson let his coordinators coordinate...

You do know that you are directly comparing Wade to Jimmy here.

I highly doubt Jimmy and Wade were handling things in a similar fashion.

:lmao2:
 

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jimmy40;2561509 said:
Seems a lot of the same guys that always said Ed Reed couldn't hold Roy Williams jock sure have a lot of respect for what he says.

Come on now, I havent seen AdamJt post in this thread.


Anyway, right on Ed.

Everything that can be said about why I think Jason Garrett is in over his head has allready been said, but its nice to see another voice in the choir spreading the news about the gingers suckitude.
 

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khiladi;2561545 said:
They didn't sink last year. While I agree they went vanillah last year, it was the offense that choked last year in the lay-offs. The fact is, we know Wade can coach when he coaches.



Because he did save this defense, and the defense led the league in sacks. This team wasn't prdocuing sacks for over ten years, and with Wade taking it over, the team went mad... Ware almost brke the sack record. Like I said, the fact is, this proves that wade can coach a defense up. With Garrett, he had all the talent in the world and couldn't do jack squat.



Garrett had a season and a half of ineptitude. Last year, this defense wasn't that bad, so it wasn't inept. It was inept in the beginning of the year and it was never inept when Wade was the DC.

The last three games were just as relevant. Dallas only needed to win one of them, and the defense performed 2 out of 3 times. The offense failed 3 out of 3 times.

WADE WAS NEVER THE DC!!!

And this offense won a lot more games over the last two seasons than the defense did. Please don't try and tell us any different.

Sacks are great. So are turnovers, where were they this season under Wade?

The defense was great in those 3 games we lost in December?

They let the Steelers drive down for the tying score in the fourth quarter.

They gave up two huge runs for TD's against the Ravens to blow the game.

They didn't even bother to show up in Philly and before you knew it the score was 24-3 in the second quarter. And yeah, Romo threw a terrible pick, but the Eagles still had to drive 40 something yards for that TD afterwards.

Let's be real here.
 

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khiladi;2561537 said:
Jimmy Johnson let his coordinators coordinate...



Jimmy's coordinators were competent.


What else you got?
 

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dcfanatic;2561556 said:
WADE WAS NEVER THE DC!!!

And this offense won a lot more games over the last two seasons than the defense did. Please don't try and tell us any different.

Sacks are great. So are turnovers, where were they this season under Wade?

The defense was great in those 3 games we lost in December?

They let the Steelers drive down for the tying score in the fourth quarter.

They gave up two huge runs for TD's against the Ravens to blow the game.

They didn't even bother to show up in Philly and before you knew it the score was 24-3 in the second quarter. And yeah, Romo threw a terrible pick, but the Eagles still had to drive 40 something yards for that TD afterwards.

Let's be real here.

Thank you. The defense was a stellar for a stretch this season, but outside the Giants game, they went south in a hurry from the fourth quarter of the Steelers game on.
 
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