Ed Werder: Reducing Daks role in the offense!

[Coogiguy03]

Good read.

However, Cap Boy will never pay the resources needed to surround Dak with the proper offensive talent.

McCarthy claimed to be committing to the run heading into the offseason and Jerry backed him up by letting Pollard walk, signing Zeke, and not drafting a single running back.

At this point that's fine in this manner load the next franchise QB up with great talent lol

 

[SultanOfSix]

The real question is can Jerry build that team.

Can he build a team that Dak only has to throw the ball 25 times a game for 225 yards, like they did for Troy?

I don't believe he can.

Dak is not Troy. Dak is not playing in a 90s league. Dak cannot run a timing based offense to throw the ball to a spot before the receiver comes out of his break. Dak is not a QB where the OC says he’s so accurate that the there were times the ball never hit the ground in practice. Dak does not make the throw to Harper in the 92 NFC Championship game.

Stop implicitly diminishing Troy by associating his accomplishments on an incomparable team and league due to many factors by saying Dak just needs a team like Troy’s as if Troy wasn’t an integral part of the efficiency of those teams. Just because Troy sometimes stunk when Jerry decided to play football guy and start drafting terrible talent after Jimmy was fired doesn’t mean Troy and Dak are the same because the former didn’t throw it 50 times a game and put up 400 yards on those previous teams. There were plenty of times Troy put up numbers over 300 and sometimes 400 yard games.

 

[Doomsday77]

Ed needs to reduce his role.

 

[stiletto]

Paying Dak $60 mill a year was ridiculous, but in Dak's defense I will say that the last two seasons the Cowboys had the #1 ranked offense in the NFL and Dak did lead the NFL in TD passes.

Again, not defending Dak here, just saying that when we did have a really good oline and a good RB (like Pollard), Dak did produce and put up MVP type numbers.

Dak is nowhere near worth $60 a year, but you dont lead the NFL in TD passes if you are scrub either.

Dak is not really good, nor is he really bad, as with most things in life the truth lies in the middle. If you give Dak a good oline and a good RB, he can put up MVP type numbers. If his oline is bad and you give him trash RBs, then the results are not going to look very good. He has to have good surrounding talent to produce, he cant carry a team by himself. This is something the Cowboys should have already known by year 9.

My problem is Dak gets most of his numbers against average to below average teams. It doesn't carry over to the playoffs or against better teams, hardly ever. He's a certified choker come playoffs and big game time. He's screwed up BAD in several big games even when the defense was playing well. Look at the 2023 divisional @ SanFran. He totally crapped the bed. 2-5. Worst playoff record by a QB. Yet he gets another half decade and the highest salary in the league. The ownership is ret-arded.

 

[Chasing6]

Dak is not Troy. Dak is not playing in a 90s league. Dak cannot run a timing based offense to throw the ball to a spot before the receiver comes out of his break. Dak is not a QB where the OC says he’s so accurate that the there were times the ball never hit the ground in practice. Dak does not make the throw to Harper in the 92 NFC Championship game.

Stop implicitly diminishing Troy by associating his accomplishments on an incomparable team and league due to many factors by saying Dak just needs a team like Troy’s as if Troy wasn’t an integral part of the efficiency of those teams. Just because Troy sometimes stunk when Jerry decided to play football guy and start drafting terrible talent after Jimmy was fired doesn’t mean Troy and Dak are the same because the former didn’t throw it 50 times a game and put up 400 yards on those previous teams. There were plenty of times Troy put up numbers over 300 and sometimes 400 yard games.

Troy is not Dak. The team around Dak, is not the team that was around Troy.

A timing based offense takes WR's to run precision routes on a consistent basis. Lamb can not run the same route twice to save his live.

Be carefully their the excuse you are making for Troy playing bad after Jimmy is what Romo and Dak have had to live with their entire careers.

 

[Frozen700]

This is literally the only way you can win with a QB like Dak. Look at what the Ravens did with Dilfer. That is what you need for Dak. Dak is incapable of carrying this offense in any meaningful way you would expect. We can dispel with this notion that he is somehow on par with Mahomes, Burrow or Allen and actually recongize what we have, a below average QB who should not be expected to be leaned on when the need arises.

Exactly

 

[Chasing6]

This is literally the only way you can win with a QB like Dak. Look at what the Ravens did with Dilfer. That is what you need for Dak. Dak is incapable of carrying this offense in any meaningful way you would expect. We can dispel with this notion that he is somehow on par with Mahomes, Burrow or Allen and actually recongize what we have, a below average QB who should not be expected to be leaned on when the need arises.

Troy rarely carried the team. Never really had to and when he did during Emmitt hold out he failed miserably.

I recall Emmitt carrying the team with 1 arm. Why did Troy not step up that game?

 

[stiletto]

Troy rarely carried the team. Never really had to and when he did during Emmitt hold out he failed miserably.

I recall Emmitt carrying the team with 1 arm. Why did Troy not step up that game?

Troy played his best football come playoff time when he wasn't knocked loopy. Pretty much the opposite of Dak-in-Headlights.

 

[Chasing6]

Troy played his best football come playoff time when he wasn't knocked loopy. Pretty much the opposite of Dak-in-Headlights.

Yes, Troy has amazing playoff stats. Ok.

Troy Aikman had a passer rating of 88.3 with 3,849 yards, 23 touchdowns and 17 interceptions in 16 games in the playoffs in his career.

 

[Johannes44]

Troy rarely carried the team. Never really had to and when he did during Emmitt hold out he failed miserably.

I recall Emmitt carrying the team with 1 arm. Why did Troy not step up that game?

The difference is that Troy when asked stepped up and made the throws. When it mattered he held his team mates accountable and guess what - don't remember anyone calling him a beetch.

 

[Wangchung83]

This is literally the only way you can win with a QB like Dak. Look at what the Ravens did with Dilfer. That is what you need for Dak. Dak is incapable of carrying this offense in any meaningful way you would expect. We can dispel with this notion that he is somehow on par with Mahomes, Burrow or Allen and actually recongize what we have, a below average QB who should not be expected to be leaned on when the need arises.

Ravens didn’t pay Dilfer line Dak is being paid. Ravens knew Dilfer was a bus driver, Dak and cowboys haven’t figured out he’s a bus driver

 

[SultanOfSix]

Troy is not Dak. The team around Dak, is not the team that was around Troy.

A timing based offense takes WR's to run precision routes on a consistent basis. Lamb can not run the same route twice to save his live.

Be carefully their the excuse you are making for Troy playing bad after Jimmy is what Romo and Dak have had to live with their entire careers.

Why are you effectively repeating the gist of what I said? You brought up Troy like he’s comparable to Dak. He’s not.

And your comparison of what Troy had after Jimmy and what Romo had after Parcells is a false equivalence. What Troy had was one of the worst drafting teams in the league. What Dak has had for the vast majority of his career has been consistently rated as one of the better drafting teams in the league due to McClay and company.

 

[quickccc]

Focusing more on running the ball and having Dak under center

Depending upon where you hear it from, but some whispers are saying under center in play action, forces Dak to turn his eyes/head away the developing action, vs a preferred
shotgun snap .. take it with a grain of salt.

 

[KB1122]

I'd like to see an offense less dependent on Dak.

Like, completely.

 

[TwentyOne]

VERY GOOD READ!

How much more do you want to reduce it?

All of our WRs are running comback routes all game because the guy cant hit moving targets. But guess what: now he choses to overthrow players or throw INTs.

We have tailored a one read offense for him since Linehan because the guy cant read defenses pre or postsnap. Still he cant produce.

We dont call QB options for years now because the guy is not able to read the DE.

If you strip him even more responsibilities he will only be able to shout "here we go" from the bench waving his towel. And guess what: we still lost today with that.

I heard the moderators tell us he gave Lance advice. Seriously? Lance stay away from this bum! The only hint he can give you is how to engade with hollow girls... if you are in the jewerly business.

 

[Swagger]

It's reached the point whereby Dak just needs to be treated like a dunce. He is a severely limited QB especially with him having zero mobility at this point. He should be treated like a backup QB. Simply hand the ball off and occasionally be asked to make easy simple regulation throws of 5-15 yards - much like his rookie season.

Draft a QB in 2025 to learn for a year before starting in 2026 where we can actually focus on having a proper offense again.

 

[Zekeats]

Focusing more on running the ball and having Dak under center

Jim Harbaugh woulda been the perfect coach for here

 

[Tabascocat]

Jim Harbaugh woulda been the perfect coach for here

For us but not for Jerry, unfortunately.

 

[DandyDon1722]

$60 million a year to be a bus driver. Idiotic decision by Jerry. They can do that with a draft pick. Rush isn't the answer. No one knows if Lance can be.

And that’s why you draft a QB every single year. You never know and to not draft one is malfeasance.

 

[Chasing6]

Why are you effectively repeating the gist of what I said? You brought up Troy like he’s comparable to Dak. He’s not.

And your comparison of what Troy had after Jimmy and what Romo had after Parcells is a false equivalence. What Troy had was one of the worst drafting teams in the league. What Dak has had for the vast majority of his career has been consistently rated as one of the better drafting teams in the league due to McClay and company.

You are correct the Herschel Walker trade resulted in a bunch of bad draft picks and Troy carried the team all by himself with his career 161 TD's to 141 INT's.