Edge Rusher--How many go before 28?

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It's a relatively weak at top DT draft so I think 5 DL/DE types go before us.

Garrett, Allen, Thomas, Barnett and either Taco/McKinley. Possibly even Williams if he does well in interviews and doesn't fail pre combine testing.

One thing we know that has nothing to do with BPA. Teams will reach for OTs and QBs, and there's always going to be a "what were they thinking pick"

A lot of good first round secondary picks and some good RBs this year too. In a passing league a reach at WR outside the top 2 might happen as well.

I'm thinking a combo of Harris and Taco/McKinley/Barnett will be there. We're fine
 
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gmoney112 said:
It's a relatively weak at top DT draft so I think 5 DL/DE types go before us.

Garrett, Allen, Thomas, Barnett and either Taco/McKinley. Possibly even Williams if he does well in interviews and doesn't fail pre combine testing.

One thing we know that has nothing to do with BPA. Teams will reach for OTs and QBs, and there's always going to be a "what were they thinking pick"

A lot of good first round secondary picks and some good RBs this year too. In a passing league a reach at WR outside the top 2 might happen as well.

I'm thinking a combo of Harris and Taco/McKinley/Barnett will be there. We're fine
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Yeah, I think there will be a guy there if Dallas chooses to go that route.
 
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gmoney112 said:
It's a relatively weak at top DT draft so I think 5 DL/DE types go before us.

Garrett, Allen, Thomas, Barnett and either Taco/McKinley. Possibly even Williams if he does well in interviews and doesn't fail pre combine testing.

One thing we know that has nothing to do with BPA. Teams will reach for OTs and QBs, and there's always going to be a "what were they thinking pick"

A lot of good first round secondary picks and some good RBs this year too. In a passing league a reach at WR outside the top 2 might happen as well.

I'm thinking a combo of Harris and Taco/McKinley/Barnett will be there. We're fine
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Garrett, Thomas and Allen should all be gone, and I'm not sure we take Allen if he's there. I'm guessing that 2 of the next wave probably is gone also, potentially as many as 4. I'm not going to speculate on who because every team is going to have these guys rated differently and the combine medical checks will do a lot of determining who goes where. McKinley is probably high in the second wave if his shoulder checks out well at the combine and probably at the end of it if it doesn't.

My guess on Williams is he's either top 15 or deep in the second round, some team likes him in the interviews and he passes the combine drug screen/intelligence test. If he turns teams off in the interviews and/or fails the drug test then he's going to slide like Gregory did.
 
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http://www.bloggingtheboys.com/2017...for-their-defense-pass-ruch-draft-free-agency



...Justin Mosqueda, best known in draft circles for his great work on Force Players, called the 2017 draft class an Historically Deep Pass-Rushing Class.

When looking over this class, there could be as many as 10 first-round talents at pass-rushing positions, almost an unheard of amount of depth for any position in any draft class. If you're a team in need of a player who can put some pressure on opposing quarterbacks, you're going to be smiling at your draft board come April.

Of the big names in college football, the only top pass-rusher who is returning for his senior season is Boston College's Harold Landry, who recorded 16.5 sacks this past season. With so many underclassmen declaring, after so many returned last season, the 2017 draft class really is like having two seasons of prospects in terms of top pass-rushing potential.

There's no excuse for coming out of Day 1 with a massive hole at the position this year.
 
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Manwiththeplan said:
And depending on how our board looks versus the way the draft falls, we may need to move up 2-4 spots. I think we can afford to give up a late pick.
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No the Cowboys can't afford that. To move up would cost a 4th. The Cowboys are already without a 5th. In a defensive deep draft with the Cowboys needing to add all the talent they can on that side of the ball, reducing the number of picks they have isn't a good idea.
 

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I was reading Sturms article on edge rushers and based on what he is saying there are 6 edge rushers who are good enough for Dallas to use #28 on. I think he said two were definitely out of our reach. Of the others, most of them will be out of reach as well.

How many edge rushers are likely to go before our pick in the first round? It is always a concern about teams behind you leap frogging in front of you and picking one up.

We might just be far enough back to miss out on all of the ones worth pulling the trigger on at #28.
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Garrett, Allen, Barnett, Thomas and likely Taco all gone before our pick. Maybe a team goes for Williams as well.
 
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I could easily see a 3-4 team take Lawson ahead of Charles Harris. I would hope so because Harris seems like a prototype 4-3 DE.
 
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I just don't see anyone falling to us at a position (most) people will be happy with.

Last year 17 first round grades

Positions not to consider in the the first:
OL: I see two going before our pick, I don't think anyone will reach for the guards in this draft

TE: one before our pick

RB: two before our pick

QB: two before our pick and that's just hoping

That's 7 and we need 11 minimum to push someone to us

Lowest priority to consider in the first:
WR: good news here with possibly 3 gone before our pick

So that's 10 we need a couple guys to rise significantly in the process in positions we aren't concerned with if we want to pick from our first round grades. People will say there are always head scratchers but the raiders are drafting better, the jags are drafting better, only the browns are left to ask what were they thinking, I don't think we can count on teams over drafting very many players anymore.

Just the way I see it
 
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rkell87 said:
I just don't see anyone falling to us at a position (most) people will be happy with.

Last year 17 first round grades

Positions not to consider in the the first:
OL: I see two going before our pick, I don't think anyone will reach for the guards in this draft

TE: one before our pick

RB: two before our pick

QB: two before our pick and that's just hoping

That's 7 and we need 11 minimum to push someone to us

Lowest priority to consider in the first:
WR: good news here with possibly 3 gone before our pick

So that's 10 we need a couple guys to rise significantly in the process in positions we aren't concerned with if we want to pick from our first round grades. People will say there are always head scratchers but the raiders are drafting better, the jags are drafting better, only the browns are left to ask what were they thinking, I don't think we can count on teams over drafting very many players anymore.

Just the way I see it
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Looks like we'll get the guy I want then :)
 
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I love hearing that there may be 10 pass rushers with first round grades. if there are 10 with first round grades it is not likely that all 10 would go in the first round. It could happen, but it's not likely unless the rest is the draft is considered a barren wasteland with no talent anywhere else.
 
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Sarge said:
Would not be one bit surprised iF we do it.
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In theory I am really opposed to moving up. I realize in practicality, it really depends on the grade and the cost of moving up. If say the guy we have as the 2nd or 3rd rated pass rusher in the draft, who we think is a top 10 pick and gets near enough that the cost isn't overwhelming I could see an argument for doing it. That would only happen of course if teams evaluated the position differently than we did, but it isn't outside the realm of possibility.
 

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My problem with trading up is that we have become more and more effective with our later round picks. I hate to give any of them up.
 

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LocimusPrime said:
I hope the one we pick is better than Shante Carver, Kavika Pittman, Ryan Russell,Ben Gardner, Tyrone Crawford, Kyle Wilbur, Brandon Williams,Colston Weathington, ebenezur Ekuban, peppy zellner, Jason Tapper, randy Gregory, and Tank Lawrence

Got my fingers crossed
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UGH! Did you really have to do that?
 
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