Elite to Great QBs win Superbowls

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Mahomes lost to the Bucs in the Super Bowl last year. He didn't have the same level of protection because the offensive line was manned by two backups. Great or elite quarterbacks win championships because of coaching, great player supporting cast on offense and or defense and let's not exclude special teams while we are at at it. Football is not one on one like boxing, martial arts, tennis or ping pong.
 

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If you put Mahomes on the Lions with Rodgers nearly out the door they are competing for a Super Bowl within 3 years. Maybe 2.

It took Brady 1 year at the age of 43 to win a Super Bowl in Tampa.
you really cant be that dense are you. You do realize all the additions that tampa bay made as well Brady. Brady was the final piece they have a complete roster
 

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Football 101 my cowboy Brother. They know what they don’t want to admit it. They just want to Rag on Prescott

ya i have pretty much gone to ignore status with a bunch of them without actually putting them on ignore but that's coming. We have literally the dumbest fanbase in football at times. actually they may not be as dumb as they are just trolls
 

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you really cant be that dense are you. You do realize all the additions that tampa bay made as well Brady. Brady was the final piece they have a complete roster

Nobody thought that before Brady went there and on top of that nearly everyone thought Brady was too old to play.
 

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That Bucs team sure wasn’t much of nothing until Brady came along.

Almost all of these NFL teams are the same. The league is designed that way. They want parity.

The guy who touches the ball every play makes the biggest difference. Playcalling as well.

If you don't have a QB, you don't have a chance.
 

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Rodgers has not won a SB 10 years, how the hell is he taking Lions to the SB?

Rodgers problem is he takes up too much of his teams salary cap and then whines about the guys around him leaving.

He still advances in the playoffs nearly every year.

Like Dak, he wants his cake and eat it too when it comes to his contract.
 

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Nobody thought that before Brady went there and on top of that nearly everyone thought Brady was too old to play.
I certainly didn’t. But then when grok and a few others went there. I don’t Doubt a New England Tampa Super Bowl
 

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Nobody thought that before Brady went there and on top of that nearly everyone thought Brady was too old to play.
do you actually believe the garbage you put in the keyboard? Nobody thought that before brady went there? It was literally 2019 was his most recent super bowl before last year. everyone thought he was too old? LOL !!The lengths you cats go to in attempts to rationalize your narratives is comical
 

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Nobody thought that before Brady went there and on top of that nearly everyone thought Brady was too old to play.
Disagree, it was pretty obvious that Tampa had a decent team minus the QB situation which was a liability with the turnovers. You're right that many thought that Brady was too old to play, but that just shows that the supporting cast plays a part in the QB production.

The QB is the engine....you can put a nice engine in a 97' civic and never see its value or you can put it in a brand new corvette. Makes a big difference.
 

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you really cant be that dense are you. You do realize all the additions that tampa bay made as well Brady. Brady was the final piece they have a complete roster
The BUCS also won a Super Bowl without Brady in 2003. That was against the Raiders. Nothing against the Brady one of the greatest of all time and most certainly he makes the BUCS more competitive, but not exclusively.
 

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do you actually believe the garbage you put in the keyboard? Nobody thought that before brady went there? It was literally 2019 was his most recent super bowl before last year. everyone thought he was too old? LOL !!The lengths you cats go to in attempts to rationalize your narratives is comical

Im right and I know more than you. Sorry.
 

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Nobody thought that before Brady went there and on top of that nearly everyone thought Brady was too old to play.

BS, Tampa had outstanding players but when your QB is throwing as many ints as Winston did they lost a lot of games they should not have lost. They had 2 1,000 WR in Chris Godwin and Mike Evans and several other good players but you had Jameis Winston who was throwing 33 TD and 30 Ints that crap gets you beat. Brady was not stupid when he choose Tampa Bay he knew that team had talent.
 

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BS, Tampa had outstanding players but when your QB is throwing as many ints as Winston did they lost a lot of games they should not have lost. They had 2 1,000 WR in Chris Godwin and Mike Evans and several other good players but you had Jameis Winston who was throwing 33 TD and 30 Ints that crap gets you beat. Brady was not stupid when he choose Tampa Bay he knew that team had talent.

Having WRs doesn’t mean you have talent.. Everyone has WRs.
 

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Brees was as good as they come but if not for the Saints defense getting 39 turnovers in the regular season and another 7 in the playoffs, Mr. Brees may not be on that list.

All the pieces have to come together unless a team has a core of players like the 90s Cowboys in which case sheer talent wins........this team can get there but their lack of all 3 phases of the team doing well simultaneously, may stop them
 

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Having WRs doesn’t mean you have talent.. Everyone has WRs.

Not every team has 2 1,000 yard WR but again they had a lot of talent and finished the 2019 season at 7-9 with a QB who threw 30 ints on the season. I think Brady is an outstanding QB and yes bringing him to Tampa got them over the hump but Brady is not doing it alone and only an moron would sit there and act as if QB do not need talent around them to win. Frankly an insult to all the men who have played championship football because they damn well know it take a lot to win and it take talent. Go back to your Madden football or get a clue but this non sense you know more? You don't know jack
 
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