News: Elliott Signs Contract

[JoeBoBBY]

Oh the plan definitely got FUBARed. The one year RBs go early in each round (last year) was the year they didn't have a solid back up plan and it bit them. Yes I agree they screwed up but still think letting Murray walk at the price Philly gave him was the right move. They made an offer mid season to him and he said no.

I think you said it earlier in the thread that at least they realized the mistake they made and addressed it this year. I agree with that as well. Taking two RBs this draft shows that Jerry and Co realized their mistake IMO.

well....................I agree with all of that. Murray was asking too much, for sure. But, if you're going to let the guy go. make damn sure you don't have Randle carrying the rock...

anyway.

EE baby. Couldn't be happier or more excited for the upcoming season

 

[Vero_F250]

well....................I agree with all of that. Murray was asking too much, for sure. But, if you're going to let the guy go. make damn sure you don't have Randle carrying the rock...

anyway.

EE baby. Couldn't be happier or more excited for the upcoming season

I clearly missed the point you were making earlier then cause that is spot on. My apologies!

Excited for the season as well, needs to get here already!

 

[gmoney112]

Plenty of us knew we should have passed on signing him to that contract before last year. What gets me is there are still some who believe we made a mistake letting him leave.

Some people still think it's 1980 and have the Mike Ditka approach that a "good" RB is all you need.

Murray fell off a cliff the last half of the 2014 season where he averaged less than 4ypc. Anyone with eyes saw that.

Zeke is twice the prospect Demarco ever was, and he's 7 years younger. I actually like Demarco and think he can be a solid addition to a team needing a rotation, but people whining about that are just lazy.

 

[JD_KaPow]

I am absolutely amazed that anybody thinks letting Murray walk, then replacing him with Randle was a ......good idea.

It was a better idea than any idea that involves signing Murray, which would have been a complete disaster, and one that we'd still be living now instead of looking at in the rear-view mirror.

 

[bayeslife]

It was that or 25M guaranteed for a S/CB with 3 INTs in 3 years (and none in 2015).

YIKES!!!

I'm pro Ramsey still but let's be real here Elliot is NOT just a running back. He is a complete package dynamic player. To be honest we may be getting more out Elliot than what his contract is worth.

 

[vicjagger]

In my best Shango impersonation, "YES! YES! YES! YES! YES! (I'll have what HE'S having) YES! YES! YES! YES! YESSSSS!!!"

It's over! It's over, baby! It's over!

 

[Toruk_Makto]

It was that or 25M guaranteed for a S/CB with 3 INTs in 3 years (and none in 2015).

YIKES!!!

Get help on Defense that needs a lot of help...or sign a RB when we'd be able to run the ball regardless and rushing efficiency very marginally increases your likelihood of winning.

This isn't a trick question. One answer is superior to the other.

 

[JoeBoBBY]

Some people still think it's 1980 and have the Mike Ditka approach that a "good" RB is all you need.

Murray fell off a cliff the last half of the 2014 season where he averaged less than 4ypc. Anyone with eyes saw that.

Zeke is twice the prospect Demarco ever was, and he's 7 years younger. I actually like Demarco and think he can be a solid addition to a team needing a rotation, but people whining about that are just lazy.

2014 stats. Not to mention the chemistry built up, the off field accomplishments, and the trust factor, all the "intangibles" , heck the relationship between him and J Witten should've been enough--- But heck, any lazy dude could see all that ...i mean, come one!!! We know better, don't throw STATS , ACCOMPLISHMENTS out there.....Its Just not good enough for the Dallas Cowboys.......

Having said that, DM should've came down a little , Cowboys should've came up a little and we would have Ramsey now. Plus DM. We could've filled another need....

Regular SeasonGamesRushingReceivingFumbles
WKGame DateOppResultGGSAttYdsAvgLngTDRecYdsAvgLngTDFUMLost
109/07 SF L 17-28 11221185.41513258.313011
209/14 @ TEN W 26-10 11291675.8221166.06011
309/21 @ STL W 34-31 11241004.24414317.811011
409/28 NO W 38-17 11241496.228T2166.060----
510/05 HOU W 20-17 11311364.41706569.316011
610/12 @ SEA W 30-23 11281154.12516315.2140----
710/19 NYG W 31-21 11281284.6211144.040----
810/27 WAS L 17-20 11191417.451048020.034011
911/02 ARI L 17-28 1119794.21704112.850----
1011/09 @ JAC W 31-17 11191005.32306315.2170----
11Bye----------------------------
1211/23 @ NYG W 31-28 11241215.018022211.0150----
1311/27 PHI L 10-33 1120733.7916406.7150----
1412/04 @ CHI W 41-28 11321795.64019495.4110----
1512/14 @ PHI W 38-27 1131812.6212133.030----
1612/21 IND W 42-7 1122582.6111--------------
1712/28 @ WAS W 44-17 11201005.03213217.0100----
TOTAL16163921,8454.75113574167.334055

PostseasonGamesRushingReceivingFumbles
WKGame DateOppResultGGSAttYdsAvgLngTDRecYdsAvgLngTDFUMLost
1801/04 DET W 24-20 1119753.91813227.3130----
1901/11 @ GB L 21-26 11251234.9301155.05011
TOTAL22441984.53024276.813011

 

[lockster]

Elliott's head always look like it doesn't belong to his body

Looks like it belongs on a Andre the Giant size man

 

[gmoney112]

2014 stats. Not to mention the chemistry built up, the off field accomplishments, and the trust factor, all the "intangibles" , heck the relationship between him and J Witten should've been enough--- But heck, any lazy dude could see all that ...i mean, come one!!! We know better, don't throw STATS , ACCOMPLISHMENTS out there.....Its Just not good enough for the Dallas Cowboys.......

Having said that, DM should've came down a little , Cowboys should've came up a little and we would have Ramsey now. Plus DM. We could've filled another need....

Regular SeasonGamesRushingReceivingFumbles
WKGame DateOppResultGGSAttYdsAvgLngTDRecYdsAvgLngTDFUMLost
109/07 SF L 17-28 11221185.41513258.313011
209/14 @ TEN W 26-10 11291675.8221166.06011
309/21 @ STL W 34-31 11241004.24414317.811011
409/28 NO W 38-17 11241496.228T2166.060----
510/05 HOU W 20-17 11311364.41706569.316011
610/12 @ SEA W 30-23 11281154.12516315.2140----
710/19 NYG W 31-21 11281284.6211144.040----
810/27 WAS L 17-20 11191417.451048020.034011
911/02 ARI L 17-28 1119794.21704112.850----
1011/09 @ JAC W 31-17 11191005.32306315.2170----
11Bye----------------------------
1211/23 @ NYG W 31-28 11241215.018022211.0150----
1311/27 PHI L 10-33 1120733.7916406.7150----
1412/04 @ CHI W 41-28 11321795.64019495.4110----
1512/14 @ PHI W 38-27 1131812.6212133.030----
1612/21 IND W 42-7 1122582.6111--------------
1712/28 @ WAS W 44-17 11201005.03213217.0100----
TOTAL16163921,8454.75113574167.334055

PostseasonGamesRushingReceivingFumbles
WKGame DateOppResultGGSAttYdsAvgLngTDRecYdsAvgLngTDFUMLost
1801/04 DET W 24-20 1119753.91813227.3130----
1901/11 @ GB L 21-26 11251234.9301155.05011
TOTAL22441984.53024276.813011

All you did was go to ESPN and copy paste the schedule for some reason.

So yeah, lazy.

 

[Dhragon]

Murray got less guaranteed money than Elliott did.

Did you see how "great" Murray was last year without the benefit of our line and a year older/more mileage on him. We dumped Murray at the right time IMO. He obviously wasn't worth the guaranteed money at what he produced last year. If Zeke is anything at all close to the hype - he will be. Don't see how comparing their guaranteed amounts mean anything.

 

[JoeBoBBY]

It was a better idea than any idea that involves signing Murray, which would have been a complete disaster, and one that we'd still be living now instead of looking at in the rear-view mirror.

I'm not sure you can say it would've been a complete disaster. That's just conjecture.....I can say that about Romo. Coming off his last year, and with his body getting another year older, and all the wear and tear, we should just cut him now; same with Dez.

They should've come up. DM should've come down....

I think many here, and the FO, underestimated the intangibles that DM had..... I also DM overestimated what it meant , to go to a new place. a new scheme. They both messed up..

if DM comes down, Cowboys come up, we , theoretically, don't need to address the RB position with the 4th pickle, then later again with Jackson and a FA signing...we couldve addressed other needs...

But....okay okay.................................................okay;

robjay was right. what is done is done.

 

[dallasdave]

Yes !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[JoeBoBBY]

All you did was go to ESPN and copy paste the schedule for some reason.

So yeah, lazy.

okay. let me take the time to spell it out for you.

Offensive player of the year.
All time Single season Rushing records for the Dallas Cowboys....u do know E. Smith played for us ...right?
Leader of an offense that propelled the Cowboys to a rare playoff Victory and probably should've been an NFCCG appearance and SB....

chemistry and continuity with the team and OL.
Admiration for work ethic from ...............get this, JASON WITTEN.
Intangibles off the charts. RKG pouring out of him.

and over 1800 YARDS....

but, you know better, right G?

explain to me G, why they are spending so many resources on the position now?

 

[Dhragon]

whats done is done is correct. But to play the "wear and tear", "age", "injury", Contract year" cards are unfair....imho....

As it turns out, Romo got hurt last year so it was a wash anyway, and now we have what "may" be a better back. What "should" be a better back......

but its curious don't you think. One year we devalue the position, a few years later we draft one at the 4th pickle. --- I applaud them for admitting their ...miscalculations. I am impressed.

The also might have known that Murray was pretty much done as an elite RB and instead of saying "we think he will suck now" went with something that would not offend him, giving themselves an out. Done all the time. Teams rarely put down a player when not resigning him. They just come up wi

Get help on Defense that needs a lot of help...or sign a RB when we'd be able to run the ball regardless and rushing efficiency very marginally increases your likelihood of winning.

This isn't a trick question. One answer is superior to the other.

If we had a better defense in the Green Bay playoff game, we might have won it. If we had a great RB who didn't fumble the ball we might have won as well. That loss was decided by a "marginal" play one way or the other. Either a marginally better D or rushing game would have probably swung that game. So I disagree that one answer is superior.

 

[Dhragon]

I'm not sure you can say it would've been a complete disaster. That's just conjecture.....I can say that about Romo. Coming off his last year, and with his body getting another year older, and all the wear and tear, we should just cut him now; same with Dez.

They should've come up. DM should've come down....

I think many here, and the FO, underestimated the intangibles that DM had..... I also DM overestimated what it meant , to go to a new place. a new scheme. They both messed up..

if DM comes down, Cowboys come up, we , theoretically, don't need to address the RB position with the 4th pickle, then later again with Jackson and a FA signing...we couldve addressed other needs...

But....okay okay.................................................okay;

robjay was right. what is done is done.

Just don't see why some people are blowing off just how horrible Murray performed last year. That 2014 heavy workload did him in as such a workload does in most RBs at his age. Murray would not have magically gotten 4x better if he stayed with us then he was with the Eagles. Same people moaning his loss would have been yelling about another horrible contract paid to an over the hill player who is in obvious decline.

 

[DallasDomination]

Zeke er here we come!

 

[Vero_F250]

I'm pro Ramsey still but let's be real here Elliot is NOT just a running back. He is a complete package dynamic player. To be honest we may be getting more out Elliot than what his contract is worth.

I was ok with either player. Just showing the other side of the coin to people saying it's too much to pay Zeke

 

[Jarv]

I'm not sure you can say it would've been a complete disaster. That's just conjecture.....I can say that about Romo. Coming off his last year, and with his body getting another year older, and all the wear and tear, we should just cut him now; same with Dez.

They should've come up. DM should've come down....

I think many here, and the FO, underestimated the intangibles that DM had..... I also DM overestimated what it meant , to go to a new place. a new scheme. They both messed up..

if DM comes down, Cowboys come up, we , theoretically, don't need to address the RB position with the 4th pickle, then later again with Jackson and a FA signing...we couldve addressed other needs...

But....okay okay.................................................okay;

robjay was right. what is done is done.

They understood that RBs coming 400+ carries typically go on a major downtrend and they were right. Blame the coaches for not spelling him enough during the season, of course DM wanted all of the carries and the Cowboys single season record since he was in a contract year...Which also happened to be the only year in his career where he played in all 16 games.

 

[Vero_F250]

Get help on Defense that needs a lot of help...or sign a RB when we'd be able to run the ball regardless and rushing efficiency very marginally increases your likelihood of winning.

This isn't a trick question. One answer is superior to the other.

Point is...its too much to pay either player they would have taken...for a player who had t played an NFL down yet. Ramsey didn't scream elite in college and may not live up to that contract either. Just cause he plays defense doesn't mean he would have automatically improved it.