Emmitt on Vick *Merged*

peplaw06

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Bob Sacamano;1558844 said:
to me, sometimes due process is just delaying the inevitable

I think Vick's case is one of those instances
Of course it is. If the inevitable = the guy is found guilty, and the prisons are overcrowded, then it is delaying the inevitable. kind of a glass half empty way of looking at it, and you wouldn't want that right taken from you would you? Even if it was delaying the inevitable.

But I suppose instead we should just execute everyone charged with a crime... and ask questions later. Ever hear of the Salem witch trials?
 

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peplaw06;1558872 said:
But I suppose instead we should just execute everyone charged with a crime... and ask questions later. Ever hear of the Salem witch trials?

In all fairness...those accused in the witch trials had an opportunity to prove they weren't witches...and succeeded quite often.

Anchoring them to a heavy stone and sinking them in water was quite an effective method...if they were able to live...they were found guilty and either hung by the neck or burned at the stake.

If they drown...they were found innocent of all charges...and......um.....well they had their day in court is what I'm sayin'.
 

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jackrussell;1558882 said:
In all fairness...those accused in the witch trials had an opportunity to prove they weren't witches...and succeeded quite often.

Anchoring them to a heavy stone and sinking them in water was quite an effective method...if they were able to live...they were found guilty and either hung by the neck or burned at the stake.

If they drown...they were found innocent of all charges...and......um.....well they had their day in court is what I'm sayin'.


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baj1dallas;1558663 said:
do you really think we should abandon due process and innocent until proven guilty?

The legal process is one thing, the NFL can take away privileges at any time for poor judgement.

There is enough evidence to prosecute, that is what an indictment is!!
 

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nathanlt;1558925 said:
The legal process is one thing, the NFL can take away privileges at any time for poor judgement.

There is enough evidence to prosecute, that is what an indictment is!!
Yeah, but do you really want to be taking away privileges any time an indictment comes up, for "poor judgment?"

It's not really applicable in this case, because there is a lot of evidence against Vick... but it's not hard to get indicted. I've had a friend get indicted for basically trusting his supervisor. It was completely bogus. Luckily enough, it didn't cost him his job.

All I'm saying is it can happen. And if you start suspending people for being indicted, you're going to eventually get someone, who is wrongly indicted, suspended for literally doing nothing.

There's a saying used by proponents of due process rights and prison reform. Better to let 100 (or a thousand, etc.) guilty go free than have one innocent man imprisoned. IMO it's also better to let 100 guilty people have their day in court before you punish them, than to punish everyone before they have that day and find out one person was wrongfully punished afterwards.
 

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Perhaps some of you would like to go back to the feudal system. Thousands and thousands have died to give us the right to be innocent. You used to have to prove your innocence. Try that one. And all it takes is an accusation.
 

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jobberone;1558987 said:
Perhaps some of you would like to go back to the feudal system. Thousands and thousands have died to give us the right to be innocent. You used to have to prove your innocence. Try that one. And all it takes is an accusation.

No. The legal system is due process, the NFL system is not. The NFL can act at any point in the process.

They will come to a point where they are losing money and more with Vick starting for the Falcons. That will come to a breaking point somewhere along the line.
 

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peplaw06;1558872 said:
Of course it is. If the inevitable = the guy is found guilty, and the prisons are overcrowded, then it is delaying the inevitable. kind of a glass half empty way of looking at it, and you wouldn't want that right taken from you would you? Even if it was delaying the inevitable.

But I suppose instead we should just execute everyone charged with a crime... and ask questions later. Ever hear of the Salem witch trials?

nah, Vick can live

he just has to run through a gauntlet of rabid, wild dogs
 

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Laker24diehard;1558858 said:
I hate how you think your so educated, just shut up and we know Vick was behind it all! He did buy the property! He was surely not born yesterday. It is called freedom of speech if we as people of this society want to say he is guilty. so keep your mouth shut for once!:bang2:

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I hate that I am educated too!!

Such a burden to have to set um, gents like you straight

OK, it's called freedom of speech
And you want me to shut up

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You are quite the comedian
You are, aren't you?
I hope you are because if you are not, you are dangerous, dude

I do hope you eventually leave the Taliban

:lmao2:
 

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I know nothing of the dog fighting organization but I can't see how a person with 50-60 dogs would be small time and not one of the big players IF he is guilty. I would think that guy would have to be pretty large in the dog fighting ring across the country.

Maybe there are guys with 100-200 but it seems that would be hard to cover up having that many animals unless you had a lot of money and property to hide them on.

Not saying he is guilty before proven and not getting into that part at all.
 
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