Enjoy Micah While You Can

[nate dizzle]

I seem to remember games where the offense scored 30 plus points and the defense gave up more. I don't remember the offense speaking up about Micah.

Because game tape.

 

[Swagger]

Most will change the tune when he comes off the rookie contract anyway. Too many Salary Capologists on the board and too many in players' pockets. Micah will be expected to do more when he gets paid and many will not give a damn about market value......haven't we seen this movie before?

Not really. Micah is an elite defender. Fans want to see those guys stay and get paid. It's the average players being paid elite money thus kneecapping the team that fans understandably disagree with - i.e. Dak Prescott.

 

[Cmac]

Not really. Micah is an elite defender. Fans want to see those guys stay and get paid. It's the average players being paid elite money thus kneecapping the team that fans understandably disagree with - i.e. Dak Prescott.

.....my point.....Dak wasn't deemed average when his contract time came about, nor was Zeke and the market value enabled both to have negoitiating power.

The same will happen for Micah but many want to levy the increased expectations when the money is on the table. (which is fair).

Example: Is it fair for a player to be stuck on a rookie contract.....playing like an All-Pro, All-World or playing just as well as high-level peers? (Answer: No).

But because of Owners and Collective Bargaining agreements.....the only way a player gets his money/worth now, is due to PAST performances mixed with new expectations or benchmarks.....regardless if there are effective changes/impacts to such, like....new coach, new scheme, injury (or a situation like Damar Hamlin), team failures, retirements, anything else that impact a team's success, etc. That's when restructuring or pay cuts, come into play.....or simply releasing a player and let the chips fall where they may in regards to salary cap hits to the team. Game has a short shelf-life for many positions and is a highly physical game, some fans expect the "gladiator" approach......drag 'em out there after the lion has feasted.....then yell "Next".

Sad as it can be......TPollard lost deserved money on his injury and it wasn't his fault.

 

[BoysForLife]

What if you throw shade at Jerrys other son Jason? What will happen to you then?

I said Jerry's "kid". Not son

 

[rnr_honeybadger]

We need a Herschel Walker type of trade.

Naw, we just need trades that allow us to stockpile first round picks. This team in it's current form isn't going anywhere fast. Two things we are doing - getting older and wasting time off people's career.

 

[cnuball21]

He’s not going anywhere while he’s on contract unless we trade him.

And if it comes to a rebuild after Daks contract, buckle up because him and Lamb get us the biggest return.

 

[Xeven]

Honestly, I would not stay in Dallas unless Jerry hires a legit GM and gets out of the way. Jaguars would be an up and coming team to go under Pederson for instance.

 

[baltcowboy]

Since Parsons has been drafted the Cowboys are second in the league in wins and have made the playoffs each year. Micah is one of the most popular players in the league of the field because quite frankly he is a Cowboy. I bet when he signs his long term contract with the Cowboys it will surpass Dak’s money. So why would Parsons leave again.

 

[rnr_honeybadger]

And if it comes to a rebuild after Daks contract, buckle up because him and Lamb get us the biggest return.

No sense in waiting till the end of Daks contract. Start it now. Dak Prescott isn't the QB that can lead this team with any competence. Plus his contract makes it impossible to build anything around him. So instead, start trading and stockpiling picks.

 

[tomsanders921]

Parson just finished year 2 of a 5 year deal plus 2 Franchise Tags. He will be in Dallas for the next 5 years if the Jerry and Steven wish it. Your putting that heartache on a payment plan way to soon.

The only way he's not here is if he gets traded to move up to select a generational QB. But Dallas is terrible in that department so there's no way it's happening.

Cowboys have to decide if they want to build around Micah or build around Dak. I would rather build around Micah because Dak will be Dak regardless of what's around him.

Build around Micah now and get rid of dak and his contract when you can.

 

[Swagger]

.....my point.....Dak wasn't deemed average when his contract time came about, nor was Zeke and the market value enabled both to have negoitiating power.

The same will happen for Micah but many want to levy the increased expectations when the money is on the table. (which is fair).

Example: Is it fair for a player to be stuck on a rookie contract.....playing like an All-Pro, All-World or playing just as well as high-level peers? (Answer: No).

But because of Owners and Collective Bargaining agreements.....the only way a player gets his money/worth now, is due to PAST performances mixed with new expectations or benchmarks.....regardless if there are effective changes/impacts to such, like....new coach, new scheme, injury (or a situation like Damar Hamlin), team failures, retirements, anything else that impact a team's success, etc. That's when restructuring or pay cuts, come into play.....or simply releasing a player and let the chips fall where they may in regards to salary cap hits to the team. Game has a short shelf-life for many positions and is a highly physical game, some fans expect the "gladiator" approach......drag 'em out there after the lion has feasted.....then yell "Next".

Sad as it can be......TPollard lost deserved money on his injury and it wasn't his fault.

I agree with everything you state above except that many people did not regard Prescott as above average. He has never been recognised as an All Pro for a start (Micah now 1st team All Pro in consecutive years) and the offensive rookie of the year was really down to Zeke - how did Prescott play the other day once Pollard went out the game?

The point is quarterbacks like Prescott should not be paid following their rookie contract. There's another thread showing that the 4 remaining teams have 3 quarterbacks on a rookie contract and the other is Patrick Mahomes.

Prescott would not be viewed as a top 10 QB by the majority of GMs going forward - they would not take Prescott over any of the following quarterbacks:

Patrick Mahomes
Joe Burrow
Aaron Rodgers
Josh Allen
Trevor Lawrence
Jalen Hurts
Justin Herbert
Lamar Jackson
Matthew Stafford
Justin Fields
Jared Goff

Stafford is getting on but if a team is a QB away from winning the Superbowl then they roll with him over Prescott given he did just that with the Rams. Fields is in line to have a Hurts like projection next season if the Bears can give him any help around his rookie contract whilst Goff has more going for him than Prescott going forwards. Prescott has been outplayed by rookie quarterbacks in two of the last three weeks. The Bucs game was hilarious to me as they are an old, banged up roster with a 45 year old QB that had little protection all game and they weren't really a play off team. They had a losing record yet Prescott fans were dining out over that layup.

Deshawn Watson and Russell Watson are in prove it years so Prescott is really in with the likes of:

Daniel Jones
Derek Carr
Kirk Cousins
Ryan Tannehill
Geno Smith

That's his level and that's his market. Any franchise paying any of those quarterbacks serious bucks fall flat on their face in the play offs.

It's time to draft a QB in the first round, go up even further if necessary, otherwise genuine studs like Parsons will look to force a way out regardless of their contract situation. Keep Prescott as the starter next season on the premise that it will be his last whilst preparing the drafted QB to start the 2024 season and dump Prescott in the best way possible - ideally for say a 3rd rounder but if he doesn't agree to a trade then just cut him and let a team like the Texans pick him up.

 

[Cmac]

I agree with everything you state above except that many people did not regard Prescott as above average. He has never been recognised as an All Pro for a start (Micah now 1st team All Pro in consecutive years) and the offensive rookie of the year was really down to Zeke - how did Prescott play the other day once Pollard went out the game?

The point is quarterbacks like Prescott should not be paid following their rookie contract. There's another thread showing that the 4 remaining teams have 3 quarterbacks on a rookie contract and the other is Patrick Mahomes.

Prescott would not be viewed as a top 10 QB by the majority of GMs going forward - they would not take Prescott over any of the following quarterbacks:

Patrick Mahomes
Joe Burrow
Aaron Rodgers
Josh Allen
Trevor Lawrence
Jalen Hurts
Justin Herbert
Lamar Jackson
Matthew Stafford
Justin Fields
Jared Goff

Stafford is getting on but if a team is a QB away from winning the Superbowl then they roll with him over Prescott given he did just that with the Rams. Fields is in line to have a Hurts like projection next season if the Bears can give him any help around his rookie contract whilst Goff has more going for him than Prescott going forwards. Prescott has been outplayed by rookie quarterbacks in two of the last three weeks. The Bucs game was hilarious to me as they are an old, banged up roster with a 45 year old QB that had little protection all game and they weren't really a play off team. They had a losing record yet Prescott fans were dining out over that layup.

Deshawn Watson and Russell Watson are in prove it years so Prescott is really in with the likes of:

Daniel Jones
Derek Carr
Kirk Cousins
Ryan Tannehill
Geno Smith

That's his level and that's his market. Any franchise paying any of those quarterbacks serious bucks fall flat on their face in the play offs.

It's time to draft a QB in the first round, go up even further if necessary, otherwise genuine studs like Parsons will look to force a way out regardless of their contract situation. Keep Prescott as the starter next season on the premise that it will be his last whilst preparing the drafted QB to start the 2024 season and dump Prescott in the best way possible - ideally for say a 3rd rounder but if he doesn't agree to a trade then just cut him and let a team like the Texans pick him up.

Can we agree that at the time of contract negotiations.....Dak was exceeding his expectations as a 4th round pick then? Don't understand how you mention Matthew Stafford (under achieved in Detroit with WRs and expectatitons)......Jared Goff (got paid, ran out of LA, and now rebounding). A bit of hindsight there, because Fields, Herbert, Hurts or Trevor Lawrence didn't have anything to do with Dak's market, nor Daniel Jones.....Goff's contract did have some inkling to the market value (even after bad Super Bowl performance), perhaps.

Example: Do you think Tony Romo deserved to be the highest paid QB at one time? Hindsight: Never made the Conference Championship?, 2 playoff wins? Untimely failures in big games?....or will the excuses surface.....bad defense, bad teams, Jason Garrett, Jerry, bad OC (Linehan), no RB, bad officiating (Dez catch), bad breaks (Demarco Murry fumble).....and unfortunately......injuries.

Let's not flip the script before we address Dak's bad season......certainly without some attempt to correct the issues, which might include firing Kellen Moore. But the franchise is gutless to coaching decisions. Let it play out, but it would be a panic move and a bit premature to go seek the QB in draft so soon (You want Stetson Bennett). We need OL, LB, speed and ball hawks......another RB to the depth chart since TPollard will be on recovery. My 2 cents.

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

After his comments about how "keeping CMC and Deebo in check and giving up 1 td should have been enough to win without the 2 picks" I am getting the feeling that MP has seen enough of DP. I think if Quinn leaves and has his team a contender, MP will be out of here as soon as his contract allows to reunite with him. I'm sure he's aware of how this team has wasted numerous HoF level careers without sniffing a ring and something about his personality tells me he isn't here to be another one of them.

If he really wants to win he'll get out the first chance he gets.

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

This is the time of year when everyone gathers around the fire and people sling stuff against the wall. Love it.

Stuff like...

"Dak will have a better season than Mahomes"?

 

[cnuball21]

No sense in waiting till the end of Daks contract. Start it now. Dak Prescott isn't the QB that can lead this team with any competence. Plus his contract makes it impossible to build anything around him. So instead, start trading and stockpiling picks.

I’d actually try to build around him before throwing in the towel. It’s doable - just have to be creative.

 

[USArmyVet]

You may be right. If they don't trade him first.
as Dez, Beasley, and Amari can attest, it doesn't matter what you contribute. if you throw shade at Jerry's Kid, your days are numbered.

if he did leave of his own accord, I wouldn't blame him.
he'll get paid somewhere. Might as well have a shot to win a ring or two while you're at it.

You brought up a valid point in referencing the WR's that have left as ultimately the issue comes back to Dak and the need for the organization to protect him and get rid of anyone that criticizes their paper-thin-skinned QB that can't take criticism.

As for Parsons, he would be wise to pull a similar move that Zeke pulled wherein he holds out and demands a trade out of Dallas as his career will be wasted if he remains in Dallas.

 

[USArmyVet]

Micah has 2 more years on his contract, then they pick up the 5th year option, then can be franchised tagged.
He is not going anywhere for quite a while.

As I referenced in a post, there is nothing that would stop Parsons from holding out and demanding a trade.

 

[MountaineerCowboy]

As I referenced in a post, there is nothing that would stop Parsons from holding out and demanding a trade.

I'd like to see that.

The Joneses need their stars to step up and show they want to win and if they have to leave Dallas to do that then so be it.

It would be a nice wake up call.

 

[USArmyVet]

Two guys sitting at home right now. Generational QBs my ***.

So you would rather stick with Dak than have either Herbert or Allen?

 

[LittleD]

After his comments about how "keeping CMC and Deebo in check and giving up 1 td should have been enough to win without the 2 picks" I am getting the feeling that MP has seen enough of DP. I think if Quinn leaves and has his team a contender, MP will be out of here as soon as his contract allows to reunite with him. I'm sure he's aware of how this team has wasted numerous HoF level careers without sniffing a ring and something about his personality tells me he isn't here to be another one of them.

He will have the 5th year option and we can extend him beyond with the tags. He's not going anywhere soon!