ESPN & Herm Edwards says now will see if Wade can coach

[BAT]

Who is bullying? So if I or anyone else don't agree with joe it's "bullying"? but to anyone else it's opinion? What are you trying to say? And no I don't come to thier defense. It's just a coincidence that they know what they are talking about and I echo the same thoughts.

:laugh2: So you are asking me to educate you again I see. I will have to charge you eventually.


You really do not know the difference between offering a differing opinion versus just demeaning someone?



And the echo you hear IS their thoughts. I apologize, that was not very nice.

 

[GalvestonCowboyFan]

the problem with your opinion is that it is pure fantasy....No one doing Any job in the world no matter what it pays does it 24 hrs a day 365 a year....its called down time, vacation, relaxation......your job pays you to do a job do you do it and only it 24 hrs a day 365 days a year? no you dont you probably spend more time on this forum than you do at your job......hell the President of the USA...plays golf, takes vacations and relaxes at camp david......the biggest problem with Romo is the absolute ridiculous expectations people put on him......

1) No dating

2) if you do date it must not be a celebrity

3) must win SB your second year as starter or your a bust

4) cant own a boat

5) cant golf in the offseason

6)must play with broken hand

7)must speak to every reporter then be criticized if you dont say something to satisfy everyone

8)must go to sideline after every series and do nothing but stand looking at print outs smiling .....scratch that ..cant smile it looks like you dont take your job seriously......but if you dont smile then you arent into the game having fun

9) must make hudini type getaways on every play cause O-line cant protect or you suck

10) never let paparazzi take your picture or you are a celebrity QB and dont car about the game

11) you must handle all the BS from certain players or you are weak for not being able to with stand it

12) you must be a leader of those who cant be led

i could go on and on.......


we have a borderline GREAT QB and you should enjoy it why you can cause they are far and few between.....we all want SBs and playoff wins....guess what Romo wants them more than you ever will

So. Freakin'. True.

I hope he takes the next step from "borderline great" to "great"--in my opinion, that occurs when a QB wins in the playoffs, especially the SB.

 

[jchocolate82]

the problem with your opinion is that it is pure fantasy....No one doing Any job in the world no matter what it pays does it 24 hrs a day 365 a year....its called down time, vacation, relaxation......your job pays you to do a job do you do it and only it 24 hrs a day 365 days a year? no you dont you probably spend more time on this forum than you do at your job......hell the President of the USA...plays golf, takes vacations and relaxes at camp david......the biggest problem with Romo is the absolute ridiculous expectations people put on him......

1) No dating

2) if you do date it must not be a celebrity

3) must win SB your second year as starter or your a bust

4) cant own a boat

5) cant golf in the offseason

6)must play with broken hand

7)must speak to every reporter then be criticized if you dont say something to satisfy everyone

8)must go to sideline after every series and do nothing but stand looking at print outs smiling .....scratch that ..cant smile it looks like you dont take your job seriously......but if you dont smile then you arent into the game having fun

9) must make hudini type getaways on every play cause O-line cant protect or you suck

10) never let paparazzi take your picture or you are a celebrity QB and dont car about the game

11) you must handle all the BS from certain players or you are weak for not being able to with stand it

12) you must be a leader of those who cant be led

i could go on and on.......


we have a borderline GREAT QB and you should enjoy it why you can cause they are far and few between.....we all want SBs and playoff wins....guess what Romo wants them more than you ever will

That was beautiful sir cause every point you made can be referenced on this board... but unfortunately its gonna be disregarded with a lot of the bull headed fans and their insane expectations.

 

[The Ominous]

the problem with your opinion is that it is pure fantasy....No one doing Any job in the world no matter what it pays does it 24 hrs a day 365 a year....its called down time, vacation, relaxation......your job pays you to do a job do you do it and only it 24 hrs a day 365 days a year? no you dont you probably spend more time on this forum than you do at your job......hell the President of the USA...plays golf, takes vacations and relaxes at camp david......the biggest problem with Romo is the absolute ridiculous expectations people put on him......

1) No dating

2) if you do date it must not be a celebrity

3) must win SB your second year as starter or your a bust

4) cant own a boat

5) cant golf in the offseason

6)must play with broken hand

7)must speak to every reporter then be criticized if you dont say something to satisfy everyone

8)must go to sideline after every series and do nothing but stand looking at print outs smiling .....scratch that ..cant smile it looks like you dont take your job seriously......but if you dont smile then you arent into the game having fun

9) must make hudini type getaways on every play cause O-line cant protect or you suck

10) never let paparazzi take your picture or you are a celebrity QB and dont car about the game

11) you must handle all the BS from certain players or you are weak for not being able to with stand it

12) you must be a leader of those who cant be led

i could go on and on.......


we have a borderline GREAT QB and you should enjoy it why you can cause they are far and few between.....we all want SBs and playoff wins....guess what Romo wants them more than you ever will

Great post.

You bottled up my thoughts perfectly and put them into words.

 

[SLATEmosphere]

:laugh2: So you are asking me to educate you again I see. I will have to charge you eventually.


You really do not know the difference between offering a differing opinion versus just demeaning someone?



And the echo you hear IS their thoughts. I apologize, that was not very nice.

Demeaning how?

 

[Zaxor]

the problem with your opinion is that it is pure fantasy....No one doing Any job in the world no matter what it pays does it 24 hrs a day 365 a year....its called down time, vacation, relaxation......your job pays you to do a job do you do it and only it 24 hrs a day 365 days a year? no you dont you probably spend more time on this forum than you do at your job......hell the President of the USA...plays golf, takes vacations and relaxes at camp david......the biggest problem with Romo is the absolute ridiculous expectations people put on him......

1) No dating

2) if you do date it must not be a celebrity

3) must win SB your second year as starter or your a bust

4) cant own a boat

5) cant golf in the offseason

6)must play with broken hand

7)must speak to every reporter then be criticized if you dont say something to satisfy everyone

8)must go to sideline after every series and do nothing but stand looking at print outs smiling .....scratch that ..cant smile it looks like you dont take your job seriously......but if you dont smile then you arent into the game having fun

9) must make hudini type getaways on every play cause O-line cant protect or you suck

10) never let paparazzi take your picture or you are a celebrity QB and dont car about the game

11) you must handle all the BS from certain players or you are weak for not being able to with stand it

12) you must be a leader of those who cant be led

i could go on and on.......


we have a borderline GREAT QB and you should enjoy it why you can cause they are far and few between.....we all want SBs and playoff wins....guess what? Romo wants them more than you ever will

Well done...bravo

 

[Clove]

Exactly who is Herm Edwards to see if anybody in this league can coach. I dont remember him coaching anything wonderful or fielding a team worth competing against.

Wade in one season with the Cowboys accomplished more than Herm Edwards did record wise. I also didnt see Edwards hoist a Lombardi. ESPN is so full of itself.

Okay, so we can make our wonderful analysis on who can do what, but guys who have actually been in the league can't?

I think they have more of a voice to talk about NFL related things than we do, yet we do it all the time, and god forbid if someone criticizes what we say.

 

[SaltwaterServr]

Okay, so we can make our wonderful analysis on who can do what, but guys who have actually been in the league can't?

I think they have more of a voice to talk about NFL related things than we do, yet we do it all the time, and god forbid if someone criticizes what we say.

Just because they played the game doesn't rule out the potential for them to be complete idiots in front of the camera or just in general.

 

[SaltwaterServr]

the problem with your opinion is that it is pure fantasy....No one doing Any job in the world no matter what it pays does it 24 hrs a day 365 a year....its called down time, vacation, relaxation......your job pays you to do a job do you do it and only it 24 hrs a day 365 days a year? no you dont you probably spend more time on this forum than you do at your job......hell the President of the USA...plays golf, takes vacations and relaxes at camp david......the biggest problem with Romo is the absolute ridiculous expectations people put on him......

1) No dating

2) if you do date it must not be a celebrity

3) must win SB your second year as starter or your a bust

4) cant own a boat

5) cant golf in the offseason

6)must play with broken hand

7)must speak to every reporter then be criticized if you dont say something to satisfy everyone

8)must go to sideline after every series and do nothing but stand looking at print outs smiling .....scratch that ..cant smile it looks like you dont take your job seriously......but if you dont smile then you arent into the game having fun

9) must make hudini type getaways on every play cause O-line cant protect or you suck

10) never let paparazzi take your picture or you are a celebrity QB and dont car about the game

11) you must handle all the BS from certain players or you are weak for not being able to with stand it

12) you must be a leader of those who cant be led

i could go on and on.......


we have a borderline GREAT QB and you should enjoy it why you can cause they are far and few between.....we all want SBs and playoff wins....guess what? Romo wants them more than you ever will

Yessir, that there is about right.

 

[cowboyjoe]

Yeah I'll bash all day if its an uninformed or dumb statement. Like DCFanatice stated in TODAYS football its damn near year round and Romo which has been stated and stated and stated some more is at EVERY practice and conditioning period. For heaven sakes the dude judged a Miss Universe contest and took the next flight from mexico to make it in time for morning practice. Its been stated that Romo came in early for conditioning just so he could throw to ALL the WRs. Some of you on this board seriously act rediculous by making ignorant statements that Romo should spend every minute and second of his time practicing and what not to become better when he damn near is using most of his time for that. THE MAN IS HUMAN AND ALSO NEEDS A BREAK FROM HIS JOB JUST LIKE EVERYONE ELSE WHO WORKS!!!!!!!!!

thats not my point that i am trying to make, i understand what your saying about romo coming in for practice from trips, my point is to me, to a degree he is spreading himself thin and not concentrating on one thing

if the former head coach parcells said, i like the kid, he is gutsy and will fight you to the end, etc, but there are things he does that you just want to kill him;

we all have been there to a degree, myself, DC, theebs, hostile,, when we thought we were young we were invincible and could do anything we wanted, sleep late, or hardly get any sleep, burning the midnight oil so to speak;

i point to an article that was posted here on this board or on dallas morning news, it stated that romos practice habits at the end of the year had fallen off

i am trying to show you the coorleation between things romo does, his trips like you said judging miss america, going to the golf tournament, yet making it in time to be there for practices;

look at romos past history, in college when he took a team to the playoffs, he didnt win that game;
he didnt win the game in seattle due to the you know what fumble for field goal try, but he goes off to you know where, when former pro football players like aikman, etc say he shouldnt have done that;
he didnt win the game against the giants in the playoffs;
he hasnt won any golf tournaments that he plays in to finish, why???


thats the point i am trying to make; to me romo hasnt grown up yet, still thinks he can do everything, play golf, play with his girlfriend instead of settling down, play football for fun,

thats the point that i am trying to get across, has romo got to many irons in the fire? is he too much celebrity conscious, papa ratz or however you spell that?

 

[cowboyjoe]

wow man. You really think he just plays because its fun and something to do?

I may be wrong here, but when jimmy and his staff invented quarterback school now dubbed OTA, Didnt aikman complain at some point about them not being necessary?

I may be wrong on that, I just thought I remember him talking about having to much stuff in the offseason.

And I am curious how 2 years into his career you have already dubbed romo as someone who cant win the big one. Seems a bit premature.

its his past history theebs; granted the giants game, i put that mostly on crayton for dropping those 2 critical plays, but go back and look at the tapes that year theebs and look at tapes last year, you see romo several times telling the offensive linemen, hurry up lets go, please hurry up, lets go

but the offensive linemen arent in a hurry, etc

why? the qb is suppose to be the leader of that team and convey it to the whole team, the team follows the qb

now lets look at romos history theebs;
he played in college, to my best knowledge, he got to the playoffs but didnt win, why?
he has played in how many numerous golf tournaments, and just missed qualifying why?
he missed the big fumble in the seattle game why?
he missed the big game in the playoff against the giants why?
he missed winning games as well as the whole team in december the past 5 years why?

i am not sure about aikman with ota's, but i do know aikman was a perfectionist, he hated sloppy practices etc, and he pushed the players on offense;

aikman demaned from the players on offense you give your all, your ready to play, you hardly saw sloppy play like you saw last year, when the cowboys finally got the team built in 91, but you saw sloppy play last year didnt you theebs? why?

granted its not all on romo, that goes back to practices and the coaches, but players are responsible to a degree too;

 

[Seven]

I'm sorry...................the thread title kills me!


Espn.............


Herm Edwards.......................

 

[cowboyjoe]

What do you come around once a week and look for me?

I dont look like LaBroke so you can ignore me.

And Joe is a grown man. We are having a discussion on a message board. He knows me and how I discuss things.

Stop turning threads around here into discussions about how one guy talks to another and who is getting bashed and who isn't.

You are not a bodyguard and we aren't interested in your personal views about those matters.

If you don't want to continue to be a thread killer then stick to football.

And Joe. If you are reading this ya know I love ya, but you are driving me nutty with this golf BS.

you know i love you too DC, its not just the golf thing i am trying to make the point DC, but yes, thats a part of it; its the whole thing, all of the popa ratz stuff romo does, all the glamour, the golf, the girlfriend, the espn stuff, the judging miss america, in everything romo has been in DC, has romo ever finished something and won big time?

thats the point im trying to make; i see coorelation here to a degree, now yes, i do think romo has grown up alittle and yes, i do hope that i am wrong, and i will have to eat my words this year, if romo takes us to the promised land;

but he is 29 DC, time for him to me to grow up and realize he is the star qb of the cowboys, and act like it with some fire, heart, determination towards winning superbowls; as well as the team, and be leaders on that team that the team follows;

again, why did parcells say, i love the kid, but at times, you want to kill him?
why did parcells say that DC? and i also remember that somewhere along the lines, parcells said you have to keep on him to keep his head in the whole game, why did parcells say that?

 

[cowboyjoe]

Let me just say something here about Aikman, Staubach, Nate and Pearson.

None of them played when the internet was the 'internet', the media was 'the media' and the NFL was 'the NFL, most high profile sport in the world'.

Just imagine if they had though.

Nate would have been in jail a long time before he actually went to jail. I disagree with that, nate didnt really get into trouble till after he left the cowboys, jimmy johnson saw to that;

Aikman would have been trashed beyond belief for his country music BS. Why is he making up country songs when he should be studying film?
But aikman won that big playoff game first DC before he started country songs; thats the big difference with alot of these players dont see; play the game and win first, then all of the honors will come, the celebrity and the big money, but play the game first;

Pearson would have been that teams Patrick Crayton with the way he loves to do interviews. Or worse, the Terrell Owens or Chad Johnson.
I dont remember pearson getting all of the big interviews till after that big playoff game against the vikings, thats the point, Drew made that big catch first, crayton hasnt, theres a big difference in talking big like crayton does to where drew made those big catches first;

Staubach would have been labeled as the QB who could not beat the Steelers because it would have been talked about ad nauseum on message boards. 'Yeah, he won us two Super Bowls, but he can't beat the Steel Curtain!' Again, Staubach won those 2 super bowls and staubach got us to some big championship games, whereas romo hasnt done that yet, thats the point im trying to make DC

I love these guys and I take in everything they say (and I post it too) but sometimes you have to put together your own thoughts on these issues Joe.

and those are my thoughts DC like jimmy johnson said, if your going to do the talking, you have to do the walking, staubach, newton, pearson, all did the talking and the walking, romo and the present cowboys havent done the walking yet; right? have the cowboys the last 5 years won a playoff game DC?

 

[cowboyjoe]

Dude you are seriously being ridiculous about this. Lets get one thing straight here OK in this time and age a professional athlete can't make one move without the media or bloggers commenting or dissecting the situation. Had Romo played during the 70s and 80s this would be a NONE issue and people really wouldnt be paying attention to this. You talk about our great QBs spending all their time to be the best it's interesting how you forget to mention aikman going out to make a country music video and what not but yet ALL HIS TIME was spent practicing basing everything off what you're saying. For heaven sakes you have Brady and Manning out making commercials and what not but because they have a ring you're gonna give them a pass correct??? Romo is a young QB whose still growing and learning in the position for heaven sakes its only gonna be his 3rd full season starting and he's arguably one of the elite QBs in the game. Dont get me wrong man I feel where you're coming from and I want so see Romo be the best but I'm realistic and dont expect Romo to be about football 24/7 the man has a life outside of football and I want him to enjoy that.

aikman won that big playoff game first, before the country music stuff; thats the point, if your going to do the talking, you have to do the walking, romo and the present day cowboys havent done the walking

its just like last year, bradie james was ticked off he didnt win pro bowl honors, instead to me he should have been concentrating on helping the cowboys get to the playoffs and winning a playoff game first,

its like nate newton said, alot of these guys, even the Moose said so too, play the game first and win first, then all of the honors, the pro bowls, the big money will come, but play the game first to win;

thats my point, the cowboys in the 70s and 90s, played the game to win, no matter what, just like bob lily said, the only way teams were going to score on our defense was over dead bodies; that was their attitude;

just like someone posted about greg ellis today saying that he would have no problem playing for the Commanders, giants or eagles; well do you remember what the safety for the eagles, dawkins said, there was no way he would play for the cowboys no way, but greg says he would

its all about attitude, desire and heart; and leadership

 

[FCBarca]

Well I dont like wade, but I think that statement is wrong.

I think he can coach just fine, x's and o's are his strong point, he can manage a game and make adjustments with the best of them.

I think his problem is that he inspires zero confidence, I dont believe he is a strong leader of men and I dont think guys have the respect for him as a figurehead the way some other coaches around the league are viewed.

Throw in Jerry constantly being involved directly with players and that makes wade even weaker in that area.

Wade doesnt even handle the media well or bring enough of that missing energy to grab the media by the throat and make them listen. He comes across as grandpa softy with the players and way too sensitive with the media.

There are many aspects of being a winning coach let alone a good one...Part of that is being a leader, a part we all know very clearly is not part of Wade's repertoire....Sadly, we found out that not only is the HC not a leader but neither are any of the 'captains' on the club either

I do take exception with the adjustments claim because if we learned anything in the last 2 seasons, it's that even knowing what the opposing offenses were going to do (Particularly late in the season) we saw the defense unable to adjust to it...Over 2 seasons, games were lost consistently late in games and late in the season - not exactly a winning endorsement for someone who purports to be good at making adjustments

Jerry can't be blamed for training camps where there is no hitting, can he?...What about tackling?...What about the penchant for penalties?

There is zero discipline on the team and I contend that despite a varying degree of talent over the last 2 season, the Cowboys have gotten worse each season under Wade...Part of it is definitely personnel but a good chunk of it has to be Wade too...And at his age and his history as a HC, turning it around eventually is not his M.O....He typically fizzles more and more as time goes on making Herm's comments a bit comical, for me

 

[cowboyjoe]

i will address this statement now;
Originally Posted by dadymat
the problem with your opinion is that it is pure fantasy....No one doing Any job in the world no matter what it pays does it 24 hrs a day 365 a year....its called down time, vacation, relaxation......your job pays you to do a job do you do it and only it 24 hrs a day 365 days a year? no you dont you probably spend more time on this forum than you do at your job......hell the President of the USA...plays golf, takes vacations and relaxes at camp david......the biggest problem with Romo is the absolute ridiculous expectations people put on him......

1) No dating
I did not say no dating, but when football season is on, you dont have time for that as a pro player, You are paid a ton on money, when OTAs, and training camp is there, no dating, period. We all know how or you should what lawrence taylor said once, he and his teammates would send girls to players hotel rooms the night before the game to zap them. Even Tom Brady told Romo once, dont bring your girlfriend to the game, period. YOU need to concentrate on football, not tryinng to impress your gf at the stadium or be thinking about her when your in a big game, etc. Even Nate Newton said, when traning camp is on, no time for gfs, even troy aikman didnt do that. Now as far as fridays, and weekend during OTAs, that time is the players, thats his free time, but when OTAs and training camp is there, thats footbal time., periodEven nate newton said for the players on 4th and long, no dating during this time frame. Period!

2) if you do date it must not be a celebrity
No way did i say such a silly thing that a football player couldnt date whom he wanted. Thats his business, in fact I dont want to know whom he is dating or whom he is seeing on is weekends, etc, thats his business, no one elses.

3) must win SB your second year as starter or your a bust
Lets see now, Romo has been playing since 2006, so thats 2006, 2007, 2008, romo has played, before that, romo was with the team when was he signed as a free agent? 2003 Folks, 2003, now how many years is that since he has been with the cowboys? Can you say 5 years, not counting this year? Thats more then enough time to be ready. Staubach was ready to play when he came from overseas by 1971, since he came to the cowboys in 1969. Now how many years is that folks? thats 3 years and staubach was ready and took the cowboys to a super bowl in 1971. Enough said!

4) cant own a boat I dont care what kind of boat romo gets, I dont care if he buys 10 boats, thats his business.

5) cant golf in the offseason Not during OTAs, period! Now on fridays and weekends during otas thats romos free time, thats his but not during week of otas.

6)must play with broken hand I never said romo had to play with a broken hand, that just plain silly to think i said that.

7)must speak to every reporter then be criticized if you dont say something to satisfy everyone If romo has one fault, its talking too long to reporters, hostile posted something about romo when he was hurt after the phily game, he kept talking even when the bus was ready to go. Again, I never said that romo must speak or be critized to or from reporters. My issue is too many irons in the fire, when he is paid a ton of money to win championships, not doing something else when football is going on.

8)must go to sideline after every series and do nothing but stand looking at print outs smiling .....scratch that ..cant smile it looks like you dont take your job seriously......but if you dont smile then you arent into the game having fun
Again, i never said he cant smile or look at every print out, but doesnt it make sense, he would or should want to look at a print out, when a coach tries to show it to him? If he doesnt want to look at it, why? Thats the wrong attitude to me?

9) must make hudini type getaways on every play cause O-line cant protect or you suck Again, this is another silly remark, i never said such a thing.

10) never let paparazzi take your picture or you are a celebrity QB and dont car about the game I have said, he is too much into paparazzi, the headlines, the glory, before he has won a playoff game. Just like rayfield wright nad some other players have said, he hasnt won those stripes yet and he was given glory probably before he should have been. You have to pay your dues, just like any other job, its all about experience, etc, adn you have to pay the price to get there. If your going out all the time, golf, paparazzi, etc, then do you have enough energy for football? thats the point I am trying to make, why hasnt romo ever finished something? He has never won a playoff game in college to my memory. he hasnt won playoff games in dallas. He hasnt won any golf big time stuff. He gets right on the edge, but doesnt punch through. Why, thats my point.

11) you must handle all the BS from certain players or you are weak for not being able to with stand it
Again romo said, you dont have to be a leader, its not what its all cracked up to be or something like that. But the leader of the offense has to be the QB in the game, the players have to respect that player and want to play for him. Why do you see in films that romo is almost like begging the offensive linemen lets go, but the linemen are dragging their feet so to speak. Why? Isnt the QB suppose to be the leader of that team? Just like the great wr for cardinals said, if it wasnt for kurt warner stepping on his neck and keeping him focused, he wouldnt be where he is today. Thats a leader on the team. Just like the QB for the steelers said, romo is too much papparazzi, thats my point im trying to make, not so much papparazzi, but all of it together, too many irons in the fire.

12) you must be a leader of those who cant be led

i could go on and on.......
The QB is suppose to be the leader of the team, period, especially on offense!

we have a borderline GREAT QB and you should enjoy it why you can cause they are far and few between.....we all want SBs and playoff wins....guess what Romo wants them more than you ever will
I know romo wants superbowls, but at what price does romo want superbowls? Thats my question, and the point im trying to make, too many irons in the fire.

 

[cowboyjoe]

There are many aspects of being a winning coach let alone a good one...Part of that is being a leader, a part we all know very clearly is not part of Wade's repertoire....Sadly, we found out that not only is the HC not a leader but neither are any of the 'captains' on the club either

I do take exception with the adjustments claim because if we learned anything in the last 2 seasons, it's that even knowing what the opposing offenses were going to do (Particularly late in the season) we saw the defense unable to adjust to it...Over 2 seasons, games were lost consistently late in games and late in the season - not exactly a winning endorsement for someone who purports to be good at making adjustments

Jerry can't be blamed for training camps where there is no hitting, can he?...What about tackling?...What about the penchant for penalties?

There is zero discipline on the team and I contend that despite a varying degree of talent over the last 2 season, the Cowboys have gotten worse each season under Wade...Part of it is definitely personnel but a good chunk of it has to be Wade too...And at his age and his history as a HC, turning it around eventually is not his M.O....He typically fizzles more and more as time goes on making Herm's comments a bit comical, for me

i think that wade is a superior defensive coordinator, but as a head coach, i have my doubts. Wade has coaches in buffalo, denver, atlanta and now dallas as a head coach? Has he won a playoff game yet? Why hasnt he won a playoff game in all of that time. I could understand if he only coached 2 teams, but wade has coached 3 teams and hasnt won a playoff game

Now at same time, I do think that wade had learned some things, as well as jerry jones.

I totally agree about the discipline issue, but some of it lays at jerry jones door too for not allowing the head coach to have total control and like last year, wade wanted jerry to upte the fines and jerry didnt. Yes, though i do agree training camp needs to be more physical. Just like nate newton, the moose, cliff harris, bob lily said that teams must hit more in training camp, that they were in physical shape but not used to being hit nad hitting. That lays at the door of the head coach when he says im not going to wear you out, and doenst allow no hitting the first 25 days of training camp. Thats just the way i feel. Because landry ran hard camps and so did jimmy johnson.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Women weaken legs, Rock!

 

[cowboyjoe]

Women weaken legs, Rock!

very true. Even lawrence taylor said so.