News: ESPN: Archer: Why Dak Prescott has become the Cowboys' new Tony Romo

TheMarathonContinues

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Favre and Brady failed against that same team, it's a big ask to make a game winning play against them twice.
That’s not an excuse that team wasn’t that good. Y’all are revising history. Romo and the Cowboys choked and that doesn’t change because who else they beat. If Packers beat the 49ers this weekend it will not erase the fact the Cowboys should’ve beat them.
 

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No it doesn’t. The fact that Romo is on 2-4 in a full career tells it all. Dak is 30 and is 2-5…Romo retired at 34? 35? And he only played in 6 playoff games? Burrow is 5-2 and he didn’t even make the playoffs this year and the other year he got hurt lol. Burrow has played in 7 playoff games and Romo ended his career with 6 and y’all don’t see that as an issue?
Yes it does. It means Romo didn’t fold under pressure in many games to pull out a victory. That is contrary to what it means to be a “choker”. Romo having some playoff record doesn’t say anything about his individual play, the quality and play rest of the team, the coaching staff, the quality and play of the opponents, etc. When someone says Romo didn’t get us anywhere either in the playoffs because someone is offended that Dak’s record is the same (and now worse), that is an epitome of decontextualization.
 

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That’s not an excuse that team wasn’t that good. Y’all are revising history. Romo and the Cowboys choked and that doesn’t change because who else they beat. If Packers beat the 49ers this weekend it will not erase the fact the Cowboys should’ve beat them.
If they beat every team the same way, so in this case blowing out the 49ers, Lions/Bucs, and the AFC opponent, it would absolutely make the loss much more palatable for me, and I think most others.

The issue to me is when you lose to a team when you are at home, and they proceed to get blown out the following week.
 

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You have got to be kidding. The score was 48-16 with 6 minutes left in the game. Dak scored against GB’s prevent defense when the game was no longer in question. Dak sucked. He even said so.
I'm not saying Dak played well. First of all, recognize defenses better, that was not prevent defense. Secondly, my point was the defense couldn't stop GB at ALL! If any team's defense give up drives the way they did, most if not all, teams will lose! They controlled the clock and they couldn't be stopped. So no....I'm not kidding. I said what I said. You're so busy wanting to blame Dak, that you don't see the defense getting their teeth kicked in. Watch the entire game and not just focus on Dak. I know it's hard cause you expect miracles from him, but he wasn't the cause of this loss alone
 

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The game is free on youtube if you want to revisit it to back up your points, but after rewatching it, I think Romo was pretty solid on the last drive.

He wasn't perfect, but he did a solid job and should have came away with a game winning drive despite Barber wasting a majority of the clock.

I disagree that Romo wasn't a good big game QB as his playoff efficiency is quite close to Eli's who will likely get into the hall of fame mostly because of his playoff performance, but that is your prerogative.

The main point is that despite playing in a more QB friendly time period than Romo did, Dak's efficiency is worse.
I’ve revisited that game plenty of times and Romo didn’t come close to his level of play in that game that he did against the Giants during the regular season. We needed his best game and he didn’t have it. Romo was 2-4 in the playoffs and Eli was 8-4 with 2 SB wins and 2 SB MVP’s. I wouldn’t be comparing Romo’s playoff efficiency with Eli. :rolleyes:
 

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How can anyone sit here and say Dak chokes but not Romo? Because one is 2-4 and one is 2-5….and one was only 2-4 because he choked too much to even get his team to the playoffs more than he did.
This is why no one takes you seriously with this mentality of thinking. You simply look at things at face value and try to formulate a debate and bait people.

If you honestly think Romo was such a choke artist since he didn't bring more teams into the playoffs there is literally no hope for you. You would be hard pressed to find 2 maybe 3 quarterbacks at the time that could have dragged those teams to .500 records. Dak honestly probably wins 4 games max

Since you like to look at things at face value go read the threads with posted stats showing Dak has had superior teams on both sides of the ball in the playoff except i think one year on offense. Let alone in the regular season

Now I'm not saying Romo didn't have his *** moments either but laughable to compare them based simply on records
 

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Yes it does. It means Romo didn’t fold under pressure in many games to pull out a victory. That is contrary to what it means to be a “choker”. Romo having some playoff record doesn’t say anything about his individual play, the quality and play rest of the team, the coaching staff, the quality and play of the opponents, etc. When someone says Romo didn’t get us anywhere either in the playoffs because someone is offended that Dak’s record is the same (and now worse), that is an epitome of decontextualization.
So explain why Romo failed to even get in the playoffs some years? Including the years he had a chance to make it if he won but didn’t?
 

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He didn’t beat Tom Brady. Dak also beat Russell Wilson in a playoff game when he was still a great QB. :thumbup:
It's a good thing he didn't beat Brady, he would have made Brady retire sooner than Dak did.
 

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This is why no one takes you seriously with this mentality of thinking. You simply look at things at face value and try to formulate a debate and bait people.

If you honestly think Romo was such a choke artist since he didn't bring more teams into the playoffs there is literally no hope for you. You would be hard pressed to find 2 maybe 3 quarterbacks at the time that could have dragged those teams to .500 records. Dak honestly probably wins 4 games max

Since you like to look at things at face value go read the threads with posted stats showing Dak has had superior teams on both sides of the ball in the playoff except i think one year on offense. Let alone in the regular season

Now I'm not saying Romo didn't have his *** moments either but laughable to compare them based simply on records
So what the hell are you arguing? You said all they just to say “Well Romo didn’t have his *** moments either”….you just don’t like the fact he and Dak are the same player and same career. I imagine it’s like a child finding out Santa Claus isn’t rule. We are arguing over Romo not being a choked. Mind boggling.
 

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I’ve revisited that game plenty of times and Romo didn’t come close to his level of play in that game that he did against the Giants during the regular season. We needed his best game and he didn’t have it. Romo was 2-4 in the playoffs and Eli was 8-4 with 2 SB wins. I wouldn’t be comparing Romo’s playoff efficiency with Eli. :rolleyes:
Of course Romo didn't play as well against the Giants in the playoffs as he did in the regular season. The same thing happenes to Brady and Brady didn't have his top receiver playing hurt.

As for listing the playoff records of Romo and Eli, that is the difference in defenses that the 2 had, their offensive numbers are pretty similar.
 

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If they beat every team the same way, so in this case blowing out the 49ers, Lions/Bucs, and the AFC opponent, it would absolutely make the loss much more palatable for me, and I think most others.

The issue to me is when you lose to a team when you are at home, and they proceed to get blown out the following week.
That 2007 Giants team wasn’t good man I’m sorry lol.
 

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Of course Romo didn't play as well against the Giants in the playoffs as he did in the regular season. The same thing happenes to Brady and Brady didn't have his top receiver playing hurt.

As for listing the playoff records of Romo and Eli, that is the difference in defenses that the 2 had, their offensive numbers are pretty similar.
All you’re doing is making excuses.
 

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So what the hell are you arguing? You said all they just to say “Well Romo didn’t have his *** moments either”….you just don’t like the fact he and Dak are the same player and same career. I imagine it’s like a child finding out Santa Claus isn’t rule. We are arguing over Romo not being a choked. Mind boggling.
Quarterbacks will have head scratching and choking moments if they see the postseason numerous times. Its natural and will happen. Even happend to Brady, Manning and etc had those moments.

You saying Dak and Romo are basically the same player is beyond mind numbing ridiculous. Especially when it comes to choking. The only ones who thinks this is some of the talking media heads to get clicks and those fans who fall in line.

Look at eras, coaching, team structure, in depth stats and etc Romo did far more with less . Let alonr breaking down each playoff game. Not even close
 
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