News: ESPN: Defamation suit against Cowboys' Jones tossed

[Jarv]

Emmitt Smith was asked once about the fact he rarely fumbles and how another RB was cut for fumbling. Richards?

He said i don't want Jimmy cutting me for fumbling. He didn’t say Jerry.

 

[ArtClink]

Hillbilly song: 'Knock her down again Pa, knock her down again...'

Hillbilly ballad: 'There's a hole in the bucket, Dear Elissa, Dear Elissa...'

Still heresay and not accepted as truth even if another with Hillbilly experience steps up and adds an amen!

In a discussion one still has to present valid facts, coroborated in print, not just another heresay agreement, even when a whole room of supporters say Amen as well!

Uh what? If Jimmy's book, you know, the one Jimmy wrote, is not a strong enough source, then might just be a flat-earther.

 

[CCBoy]

Uh what? If Jimmy's book, you know, the one Jimmy wrote, is not a strong enough source, then might just be a flat-earther.

No, you need to pay attention...you present only a heresay comment.

Present the quote, or that is back on you to prove...not Jimmy or anyone else.

I'll see your beer and raise you three shots of Don Padron and a salt shaker. The Padron can even come chilled!!

No, I'm not asking his Mother for comment or his ex-wife either. That would have to be in print somewhere not just 'his book.' Provide it and not just gossip here.

This is the recorded facts:

Behind the scenes, however, a different article from Fox Sports states that Jones and Johnson were not getting along. Sports Illustrated explains that problems arose in 1992 when Jones, Johnson, and Bob Ackles — the then-Vice President of Player Personnel for the Cowboys — formulated a trade for the Cleveland Browns. They hashed out the deal, and Jones left. Shortly after, Cleveland accepted the agreement, and the Cowboys announced it without notifying Jones.

Bothered by this decision, he told Johnson (via Sports illustrated), "You know the ESPN camera is in the draft room today. So whenever we're about to make a pick, you look at me, like we're talking about it." Ultimately, this spurred a feud that was still going strong in 2022 (per Fox Sports).

Read More: https://www.grunge.com/1164254/nfls-jerry-jones-and-jimmy-johnsons-feud-explained/

 

[CCBoy]

No, you need to pay attention...you present only a heresay comment.

Present the quote, or that is back on you to prove...not Jimmy or anyone else.

I'll see your beer and raise you three shots of Don Padron and a salt shaker. The Padron can even come chilled!!

No, I'm not asking his Mother for comment or his ex-wife either. That would have to be in print somewhere not just 'his book.' Provide it and not just gossip here.

This is the recorded facts:

Behind the scenes, however, a different article from Fox Sports states that Jones and Johnson were not getting along. Sports Illustrated explains that problems arose in 1992 when Jones, Johnson, and Bob Ackles — the then-Vice President of Player Personnel for the Cowboys — formulated a trade for the Cleveland Browns. They hashed out the deal, and Jones left. Shortly after, Cleveland accepted the agreement, and the Cowboys announced it without notifying Jones.

Bothered by this decision, he told Johnson (via Sports illustrated), "You know the ESPN camera is in the draft room today. So whenever we're about to make a pick, you look at me, like we're talking about it." Ultimately, this spurred a feud that was still going strong in 2022 (per Fox Sports).

Read More: https://www.grunge.com/1164254/nfls-jerry-jones-and-jimmy-johnsons-feud-explained/

That was the repurcussion because authority chain and contract roles were violated.

 

[RoboQB]

Pass a law that results in jail time for false accusations and all these
ridiculous money grab attempts disappear forever... smh

 

[BoysForLife]

Sure, but if Jones doesn't buy the team is Jimmy ever the coach? .

As much as the criticism of Jerry is warranted (and it is warranted, big time) this is an inescapable fact


Jerry hired Jimmy and got roasted almost universally for it

But it led to a dynasty. It was a big balls move and he deserves credit for having the stones to do it

 

[ArtClink]

That was the repurcussion because authority chain and contract roles were violated.

Lol. Well, I guess citing simple facts from an autobiography is not enough as you need a verbatim quote? I’ll let you decide if knowing the truth is important enough for you to lift a finger to discover what longtime fans already know.

But hey we disagree on this one so no worries.

 

[CCBoy]

Lol. Well, I guess citing simple facts from an autobiography is not enough as you need a verbatim quote? I’ll let you decide if knowing the truth is important enough for you to lift a finger to discover what longtime fans already know.

But hey we disagree on this one so no worries.

This is what ultimately was stated by both, after their emotions subsided:

Johnson told Fox Sports in 2022 that he got tired of Jones' ego but admitted that he had played a role in their falling out. He noted that "things changed a little bit" between the two when the team became successful. Johnson went on to say (via Fox Sports), "People say, 'he meddled too much.' No he didn't meddle. It's just that when we started winning, he wanted to be more in the spotlight. I was proud of what we accomplished. Maybe I didn't want to share it. I take fault in a lot of it. I should've shared it more."

On the other hand, Jones expressed regret about their dispute in 2021 (per CBS Sports). He said, "Well, I just think of those great times." He added, "And Jimmy's a great coach. Ridiculous, my role — it was my job was to keep it together. It was my job. Should have had deference to something that was working good."

Read More: https://www.grunge.com/1164254/nfls-jerry-jones-and-jimmy-johnsons-feud-explained/

The reason for the incident with the draft was explained in the above posting.


You still only used heresay...fail.

 

[ArtClink]

This is what ultimately was stated by both, after their emotions subsided:

Johnson told Fox Sports in 2022 that he got tired of Jones' ego but admitted that he had played a role in their falling out. He noted that "things changed a little bit" between the two when the team became successful. Johnson went on to say (via Fox Sports), "People say, 'he meddled too much.' No he didn't meddle. It's just that when we started winning, he wanted to be more in the spotlight. I was proud of what we accomplished. Maybe I didn't want to share it. I take fault in a lot of it. I should've shared it more."

On the other hand, Jones expressed regret about their dispute in 2021 (per CBS Sports). He said, "Well, I just think of those great times." He added, "And Jimmy's a great coach. Ridiculous, my role — it was my job was to keep it together. It was my job. Should have had deference to something that was working good."

Read More: https://www.grunge.com/1164254/nfls-jerry-jones-and-jimmy-johnsons-feud-explained/

The reason for the incident with the draft was explained in the above posting.


You still only used heresay...fail.

So you’re saying Jimmy lied in his autobiography?

 

[Cydios]

Jerry Jones is my daddy, give me money

 

[CCBoy]

So you’re saying Jimmy lied in his autobiography?

You merely are dodging presenting the facts and just blaming me instead...this discussion is over unless you start actually answer with a fact other than in my opinion level...bob and weave all you desire with someone else. YOU prove nothing with continuing with falsely accusing me. You are through here.

Don't call me a liar again! YOU are wrong to here...now prove, not another Jimmy said!!

 

[CCBoy]

Jerry Jones is my daddy, give me money

Demand a test be run then, smart guy!

 

[Cydios]

Demand a test be run then, smart guy!

Lmao

 

[ArtClink]

You merely are dodging presenting the facts and just blaming me instead...this discussion is over unless you start actually answer with a fact other than in my opinion level...bob and weave all you desire with someone else. YOU prove nothing with continuing with falsely accusing me. You are through here.

Don't call me a liar again! YOU are wrong to here...now prove, not another Jimmy said!!

Well, I will simply step aside. However, understand that Spock would shoot holes in your “logic” …

 

[CCBoy]

Well, I will simply step aside. However, understand that Spock would shoot holes in your “logic” …

You sure don't...

When asked in the summer of 2014 why Johnson was not in the ring of honor despite his two Super Bowl victories as coach of the Cowboys, Jones stated: "Disloyalty ... I couldn't handle the disloyalty."[4] The Cowboys Ring of Honor has been viewed as the "gatekeeper to the Pro Football Hall of Fame" for Dallas players, coaches, and executives;[5] despite this snub, it was announced in 2020 that Johnson would be inducted into the Hall of Fame.

Miami Dolphins[edit]​

After working as a television analyst with Fox Sports for two years and briefly flirting with an offer for the head-coaching job of the Philadelphia Eagles in 1994,[7] Johnson joined the Miami Dolphins in 1996, replacing head coach Don Shula, who retired at the end of the 1995 season. After a below-expectations year for the Dolphins in 1995, capped off by a blowout loss in the playoffs versus the Buffalo Bills, there was a groundswell among Dolphins fans who wanted Shula to step aside in favor of Johnson.[8]

Johnson's tenure in Miami did not live up to expectations. Johnson won fewer games in his first season than Shula had in his final season (8–8 vs. 9–7). Johnson's overall winning percentage at Miami was 55.3% vs. 65.8% for Shula.[9] Brian Billick related a story about Johnson in 2019 when each were broadcasters, with the latter stating his advice of how to not go back into coaching unless one had the passion and proper reasons to do so, since plenty of coaches went back without those reasons. As related by Billick of what Johnson said, “I was one of them. I went back for the wrong reasons. If you go back for ego, if you go back for money, it’s the wrong reason."[10]

Johnson inherited one of the NFL's best offenses, led by Hall of Fame quarterback Dan Marino; the defense was considered mediocre, though it was ranked 10th in fewest points allowed in 1995. As a defensive specialist, Johnson expected to put together a championship defense. With complete control over personnel decisions, Johnson and his staff signed several excellent defensive players, drafting future Hall of Famers Jason Taylor and Zach Thomas, and Pro Bowlers Sam Madison, and Patrick Surtain. But Johnson's brilliant draft record was blemished by several disappointments, including fifth-round pick running back Cecil Collins, and two first-round picks, running back John Avery and wide receiver Yatil Green. The Dolphins finished 8–8 in 1996 and then 9–7 in 1997, losing to the New England Patriots in the wildcard playoff round. In 1998, the Dolphins finished 10–6 with the league's best defense, defeated the Buffalo Bills in the wildcard playoffs, then were crushed 38–3 by the Denver Broncos in the divisional round.

In a 1996 interview, Johnson said he did not feel he could ever reach the stature of Shula or Landry, simply because he did not feel able to stay with the job as long as they had: "26 years or so as a head coach. I don't think I'll make it that long. This is my sixth year as a head coach, and whenever this contract's done, I think I'll probably be done coaching."[11]

In January 1999, Johnson resigned as Dolphins head coach, citing burnout. He reversed his decision in one day, after Marino—with whom Johnson had a strained relationship[12]—pleaded with Johnson to come back. Dolphins owner Wayne Huizenga also hired the recently fired Chicago Bears head coach Dave Wannstedt, a former assistant under Johnson both at the University of Miami and at Dallas, as defensive coordinator/assistant head coach.

In the face of Super Bowl expectations, Miami faded from a 7–1 start down the stretch, and Johnson's relationship with Marino, which had briefly blown up following a Monday Night Football loss to the Bills in Week 4, dissolved completely. The Dolphins still finished the season 9–7 and defeated the Seahawks in the wildcard round of the playoffs, but in the divisional round they were crushed in an embarrassing 62–7 loss to the Jacksonville Jaguars. Johnson resigned the day after the game and Marino soon thereafter announced his retirement. Johnson was succeeded by Wannstedt.

In a 2021 interview, Johnson revealed that the Dolphins could have traded for Peyton Manning in the 1998 NFL draft, theoretically offering the Colts their entire draft board in exchange for the first overall pick. Johnson declined to give more details to this trade, with him stating, "I probably gave you too much already."[13]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Johnson_(American_football_coach)#Oklahoma_State​

Above I referenced FOX and CBS with quotes and was instead met with heresay, and told it is a direct quote by Jimmy Johnson...


Dr. Spock...and children? Want to compare real histories in life?

Better study some BF Skinner as at least he believed in a foundation of I'm OK, you're OK. He didn't believe in electrical shocks as the alternative...and the first head of the Psychological Center for Corpus Christi was Nick Huestes...the first of the local run heads.

You are a make believe insult tosser...as you were.