ESPN Insider: How Dak Prescott compares to past stud rookie quarterbacks - 2016 NFL

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Who hear still believes there's not a single GM in the league who'd draft Dak over Wentz? Or that only a complete and total homer would think that to begin with? Raise you're hands, y'all.
 

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Who hear still believes there's not a single GM in the league who'd draft Dak over Wentz? Or that only a complete and total homer would think that to begin with? Raise you're hands, y'all.
I think at this point, most GM's would take Dak now over Wentz, but I also have no doubt there are still some, for whatever reason, that would take Wentz over him. I'm sure there would be some that couldn't look past their team's scouting report that says Wentz should be the better QB, regardless what is actually the case on an NFL field.
 

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I am expecting a back lash with Dak similiar to what we see with Romo. He was not a 1st rd pick so people feel the need to justify why he is playing so well. Just like with Romo. People feel better explaining why Romo is not a great QB vs just accepting he is.
 

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What we haven't seen yet is how Dak reacts to adversity in the form of a losing streak and all the pressure/complaining/judgments that come along with it. Mind you, I don't care enough to wish a string of losses on the Cowboys, but I do believe you see the real side of players when the chips are down. It wouldn't bother me one bit if we never had a chance to see that situation, but I am curious.
 

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I think at this point, most GM's would take Dak now over Wentz, but I also have no doubt there are still some, for whatever reason, that would take Wentz over him. I'm sure there would be some that couldn't look past their team's scouting report that says Wentz should be the better QB, regardless what is actually the case on an NFL field.

That's what I think, too. Wentz is still a good player to develop. We've come a long way, though, in just a few short weeks. 3 weeks ago, people were still saying confidently GMs would unanimously take Wentz over Prescott and were just beginning to try to write off the performance gulf as an imbalance of offensive talent on the rosters. Now, there's enough data that that gets harder and harder to do. Crazy how fast things change in the NFL.
 

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What we haven't seen yet is how Dak reacts to adversity in the form of a losing streak and all the pressure/complaining/judgments that come along with it. Mind you, I don't care enough to wish a string of losses on the Cowboys, but I do believe you see the real side of players when the chips are down. It wouldn't bother me one bit if we never had a chance to see that situation, but I am curious.
We've seen Dak play when all the chips are down and the resuls are comeback victories. We don't need to lose to see that.
 

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What we haven't seen yet is how Dak reacts to adversity in the form of a losing streak and all the pressure/complaining/judgments that come along with it. Mind you, I don't care enough to wish a string of losses on the Cowboys, but I do believe you see the real side of players when the chips are down. It wouldn't bother me one bit if we never had a chance to see that situation, but I am curious.

I think it's a pretty safe bet that Dak's mindset is strong enough to get him through a losing streak. One of the most impressive things about him, to me, is that he's demonstrated already that he can compartmentalize and focus on what's important. You've seen it in how he handled replacing Tony, how he handled the first big game (in Lambeau), and in how he handles getting down in games themselves (SF and PHI). He just keeps chugging.

If he ends up having a sophomore slump, I'm betting it will be because of accuracy problems creeping back up. Not that I think that's going to happen, but it's my bet since I don't really understand how the accuracy problem fixed itself in the first place, so if the clock strikes midnight and he throws a slipper and turns into a pumpkin, that's my bet for the most likely culprit.
 

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We've seen Dak play when all the chips are down and the resuls are comeback victories. We don't need to lose to see that.

I'm talking about a larger scope than single game adversity. I'm talking about situations that make some question themselves. Losing streaks, back to back multiple INT games... things like that. Dak seems so cool that I feel he would overcome it, but it is still an unknown.
 

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I'm talking about a larger scope than single game adversity. I'm talking about situations that make some question themselves. Losing streaks, back to back multiple INT games... things like that. Dak seems so cool that I feel he would overcome it, but it is still an unknown.
I'm not sure losing games really changes anything. If you lose, you lose, and you try again the following week. I can't imagine that changing Dak's play. All a player can do is do their best, regardless of outcome. Losing doesn't change that.

I mean, it may be a bit different here since Dak completely unfairly has to look over his shoulder when we lose even a single game, but that's a whole different issue and not something he can control.
 

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What we haven't seen yet is how Dak reacts to adversity in the form of a losing streak and all the pressure/complaining/judgments that come along with it. Mind you, I don't care enough to wish a string of losses on the Cowboys, but I do believe you see the real side of players when the chips are down. It wouldn't bother me one bit if we never had a chance to see that situation, but I am curious.

The fact that took a talentless Mississippi State team and had them as the number one rated college program for a time says a lot about his ability to overcome adversity. Going into LSU and beating that team in Death Valley is most impressive.
 

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Prescott is 5th in the NFL in passing yards in the first half of games.

1st half passing yards
(games 1-9)
Brees 1428
Flacco 1416
Ryan 1394
Rivers 1352
Prescott 1301

He hasn't had many 2nd-half attempts because his team usually has the lead in the 2nd half. One of the reasons for that is Prescott's 1st-half passer rating, which ranks 2nd in the league.

1st-half passer rating
Ryan 112.5
Prescott 109.5
Rivers 104.4
Wilson 104.2
Roethlisberger 102.5

Most of the Cowboys' 1st-half yardage comes from his passing.

Dallas 1st-half yardage
passing 1,258 (62.8%)
rushing 744 (37.2%)

And that looks very much like Romo's 2014...

Dallas 1st-half yardage, 2014
passing 2,054 (62.7%)
rushing 1,223 (37.3%)
 

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How many rookie QBs have started with the best offensive line in the NFL, the best RB in the NFL, an elite receiver, and a Hall of Fame tight end?

These discussions need perspective.
 

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How many rookie QBs have started with the best offensive line in the NFL, the best RB in the NFL, an elite receiver, and a Hall of Fame tight end?

These discussions need perspective.

zeke can be called the best though? isn't he a rookie on a team with a very good qb that works with an elite receiver, hof te, and best offensive line in the nfl? the same line dmac dominated behind the year before and murray before that?

romo dominated with these pieces, but so did dmac and murray. can't call zeke the best in the nfl without giving dak major credit as well.
 
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How many rookie QBs have started with the best offensive line in the NFL, the best RB in the NFL, an elite receiver, and a Hall of Fame tight end?

These discussions need perspective.
You have to give the rookie his due. Compare the 2014 offense with Romo, who had all of those things in the prime of his career, to the 2016 offense with Prescott, who had never taken a snap in the NFL.

Dallas points per drive
(drive did not follow a takeaway)
2016 3.05
2014 2.52
 

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zeke can be called the best though? isn't he a rookie on a team with a very good qb that works with an elite receiver, hof te, and best offensive line in the nfl? the same line dmac dominated behind the year before and murray before that?

romo dominated with these pieces, but so did dmac and murray. can't call zeke the best in the nfl without giving dak major credit as well.
Zeke is dominating. Dak is just doing a good job. There's a big difference.
 
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