ESPN Insider: How Dak Prescott compares to past stud rookie quarterbacks - 2016 NFL

[DallasInDC]

How many rookie QBs have started with the best offensive line in the NFL, the best RB in the NFL, an elite receiver, and a Hall of Fame tight end?

These discussions need perspective.

If I recall all of those positions with the exception of Zeke (and Dez for two games) were in place last year and we all know how bad the QB play was. I think that is a sorry excuse to diminish how impressive Dak has been.

 

[Sarge]

The guy is special. All one has to do is watch him play. Anyone that questions his abilities at this point is fatuous.

 

[erod]

So did Murray back in 2014. You're grasping at straws that aren't there.

Prescott wants nothing to do with the middle of the field other than quick slants and turnarounds. He stays on the edges. Elite quarterbacks make their money deep down the middle where it can get ugly. Long balls down the sideline carry little risk, and they don't require a "read".

A screen pass that goes 83 yards looks great on the stat sheet, but it's not really a QB play. Dak is doing PHENOMENAL for a rookie. But he inherited a PERFECT offense.

I'm not against giving the team to Dak at this point, but that pretty much ends this team's championship hopes for this year.

 

[erod]

If I recall all of those positions with the exception of Zeke (and Dez for two games) were in place last year and we all know how bad the QB play was. I think that is a sorry excuse to diminish how impressive Dak has been.

Not diminishing, but there was no Zeke Elliott a year ago, and Dez was awful because he was hurt. McFadden is average at best. Zeke is 100 times better than McFadden.

Prescott has incredible poise and maturity for a rookie, and he's not a p**** like Weeden and Cassel. He's going to be at least an above average QB, if not better, down the road.

 

[robbieruff]

Who hear still believes there's not a single GM in the league who'd draft Dak over Wentz? Or that only a complete and total homer would think that to begin with? Raise you're hands, y'all.

Dis how I think...quote:

Dak Prescott was 15 of 20 for 255 yards, 2 TDs and a 150.0 QB rating against the blitz in Pittsburgh, via @PFF

 

[robbieruff]

You have to give the rookie his due. Compare the 2014 offense with Romo, who had all of those things in the prime of his career, to the 2016 offense with Prescott, who had never taken a snap in the NFL.

Dallas points per drive
(drive did not follow a takeaway)
2016 3.05
2014 2.52

Exactly. It's one thing to say a player HAS a great supporting cast, it's an entirely different issue to have that player TAKE ADVANTAGE of it. All this dismissal of what Dak is doing smells of the old criticism of emmitt. Fact is, every other back that ran behind the Great Wall in the 90's looked pedestrian compared to Emmitt. But still Emmitt lives with the stigma that "yeah he was good and all but that offensive line..." blah blah blah. Emmitt MADE that line just as much as they made him. And the same will be said about Dak and his supporting cast of/when he wins a SB.

 

[Stash]

Prescott wants nothing to do with the middle of the field other than quick slants and turnarounds. He stays on the edges. Elite quarterbacks make their money deep down the middle where it can get ugly. Long balls down the sideline carry little risk, and they don't require a "read".

A screen pass that goes 83 yards looks great on the stat sheet, but it's not really a QB play. Dak is doing PHENOMENAL for a rookie. But he inherited a PERFECT offense.

And Romo had essentially the exact same thing in 2014, and yet he wasn't able to take the team to an 8-1 record. But that's not a criticism of Romo, he obviously had a phenomenal season too, there's no denying that. Just like there's no denying that Prescott is having one as well.

I don't need to lessen one to praise the other, unlike some people apparently.

I'm not against giving the team to Dak at this point, but that pretty much ends this team's championship hopes for this year.

You're entitled to your opinion, but there is absolutely nothing to support this claim.

 

[phildadon86]

That escape and 50 yard chuck to Dez was amazing!

But he has no arm.....

 

[jwooten15]

But he has no arm.....

Some of the throws he made against the Steelers were lame ducks though.
He does have arm strength, for sure. But he doesn't always use it.

 

[Falco78]

But he has no arm.....

Yeah I and his game day keep forgetting about this....

 

[erod]

Exactly. It's one thing to say a player HAS a great supporting cast, it's an entirely different issue to have that player TAKE ADVANTAGE of it. All this dismissal of what Dak is doing smells of the old criticism of emmitt. Fact is, every other back that ran behind the Great Wall in the 90's looked pedestrian compared to Emmitt. But still Emmitt lives with the stigma that "yeah he was good and all but that offensive line..." blah blah blah. Emmitt MADE that line just as much as they made him. And the same will be said about Dak and his supporting cast of/when he wins a SB.

That wasn't fair criticism of Emmitt, but I've always felt it was fair criticism of Troy. I've long thought Romo is a better QB than Troy was. Circumstances dictate so much. Imagine Romo playing on those 90s teams, and then imagine (gulp) Troy playing on the teams Romo has had.

 

[robbieruff]

That wasn't fair criticism of Emmitt, but I've always felt it was fair criticism of Troy. I've long thought Romo is a better QB than Troy was. Circumstances dictate so much. Imagine Romo playing on those 90s teams, and then imagine (gulp) Troy playing on the teams Romo has had.

the "gulp"...

 

[Longboysfan]

Some QB where the Eagles Wentz with the wrong guy, should have drafted Dak.

Let's wait a few years on this one.

 

[erod]

Good starts to QB careers that fizzled quickly:

David Carr
Nick Foles
Colin Kaepernick
Josh Freeman
Byron Leftwich
Jake Plummer
Vince Young
Rex Grossman
Marc Bulger
Etc

Be careful. For every Big Ben or Russell Wilson, there are tons of these guys.

 

[JJHLH1]

Prescott wants nothing to do with the middle of the field other than quick slants and turnarounds. He stays on the edges. Elite quarterbacks make their money deep down the middle where it can get ugly. Long balls down the sideline carry little risk, and they don't require a "read".

A screen pass that goes 83 yards looks great on the stat sheet, but it's not really a QB play. Dak is doing PHENOMENAL for a rookie. But he inherited a PERFECT offense.

I'm not against giving the team to Dak at this point, but that pretty much ends this team's championship hopes for this year.

Brett Favre says Dak should be the front runner for MVP. He, like Tony, know firsthand how difficult it is what is being accomplished out there. My only hope is that the Cowboys can continue their excellent play.

http://sportsday.***BANNED-URL***/d.../16/brett-favre-dak-prescott-front-runner-mvp

 

[erod]

Brett Favre says Dak should be the front runner for MVP. He, like Tony, know firsthand how difficult it is what is being accomplished out there. My only hope is that the Cowboys can continue their excellent play.

http://sportsday.***BANNED-URL***/d.../16/brett-favre-dak-prescott-front-runner-mvp

Roger Staubach says Tony Romo is a better QB than he was. You believe that, too?

 

[Elusive6thRing]

Roger Staubach says Tony Romo is a better QB than he was. You believe that, too?

You must be an extremely negative person because all I see you do is talk negatively about an 8-1 team. I know you won't but if you were smart you'd move on, because you've more than made your point. We get it you think Romo is the GOAT and Dak sucks, you're just a broken clock.

 

[erod]

You must be an extremely negative person because all I see you do is talk negatively about an 8-1 team. I know you won't but if you were smart you'd move on, because you've more than made your point. We get it you think Romo is the GOAT and Dak sucks, you're just a broken clock.

Reading comprehension is a helluva thang. Try it. I've been lauding Dak for weeks now.

Unlike you, I can appreciate both quarterbacks for what they are at this point in time. The only possible route to the Super Bowl, in my opinion, is with Romo's experience. The rookie reckoning is coming for Dak. He's not quite ready for that yet. He's been bolstered by a phenomenal offensive unit, and he's done a terrific job managing this Ferrari.

I'll change my Super Bowl tune if Dak can get through the second games against the division and play well. He could very easily be 0-3 in those games right now.

 

[Elusive6thRing]

You've never made those points before *yawn*. Guess you need the attention to make sure people know ROMO IS THE BEST CHANCE TO WIN A SUPER BOWL! As if we didn't know that's your take. You're not accomplishing anything by saying the same thing over and over. Go ahead, tell me again because I forgot, who gives us the best chance to win a Super Bowl?

 

[Dale]

If I recall all of those positions with the exception of Zeke (and Dez for two games) were in place last year and we all know how bad the QB play was. I think that is a sorry excuse to diminish how impressive Dak has been.

Dak undoubtedly has been given a platform that can help enable success, but I think history shows that few poor/average QBs have performed spectacularly just because of a quality supporting case.

Case in point. How many times do we see a team draft a QB high (such as a Blaine Gabbert) and follow by taking a skill position talent to help make it easier on the guy. The bad QBs don't suddenly perform better just because of the increased talent around them. If anything, it's the other way around. The skill position players aren't able to excel until the QB situation improves.