ESPN: John Clayton reports Wade is after Pendergast as the new DC

[big dog cowboy]

I don't believe a word of this unless it comes from Ed Werder.

 

[LatinMind]

Last time I checked, didnt the Cardinals run a 4-3 defense???


What the hell does Pendergast know about the 3-4???


This is the dumbest thing I have ever heard of, hiring a 4-3 coach to run a 3-4 defense.

cardinals run a 3-4

 

[ThreeSportStar80]

At this point anyone would be better than Stewart... :laugh2:

 

[dgr81]

cardinals run a 3-4

not really...

http://www.profootballweekly.com/PFW/Features/Super+Bowl/2008/wwhi013009.htm

good article describing the defense used by Arizona this past year.

 

[HanD]

nice read on their defense.

 

[BAT]

nice read on their defense.

Sounds like Slate was more right than all the nonsense about hiring a "4-3" coach.


Cardinals play a "under front" as their base, same as Wade. Cardinals D looks like a 3-4 b/c of the way their front 7 line up. Wade has said in the past that his scheme looks like a 3-4 but has a lot of elements of a traditional 4-3 (D line one gaps instead of 2 gaps for one).


In any event, hiring Pendergrast would not be a bad hire, or even an ill fit. But I'd rather have Davis (the Cards LB coach) or better yet the DL coach for the Steelers (John Mitchell) or Eagles LB/Secondary Coach (Sean McDermott) as the new Cowboys DC.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

I like that rock. Has personality and can pounds some heads at Valley Ranch.

 

[CF74]

I'd probably say that Warner's interception at the end of the half was the game changer.

There was still 2 quarters of play left then and had the D made that final stand, Cardinals win...

 

[HanD]

Sounds like Slate was more right than all the nonsense about hiring a "4-3" coach.


Cardinals play a "under front" as their base, same as Wade. Cardinals D looks like a 3-4 b/c of the way their front 7 line up. Wade has said in the past that his scheme looks like a 3-4 but has a lot of elements of a traditional 4-3 (D line one gaps instead of 2 gaps for one).


In any event, hiring Pendergrast would not be a bad hire, or even an ill fit. But I'd rather have Davis (the Cards LB coach) or better yet the DL coach for the Steelers (John Mitchell) or Eagles LB/Secondary Coach (Sean McDermott) as the new Cowboys DC.

exactly. CP didn't run the traditional 4-3. it was a hybrid system. CP did well with his unit this year IMO. i'd be happy if he joined our staff.

the advantage is CP has worked here and isn't under contract. Since the nfl has termed all position coaches/coordinators the same level and only a HC gig as a promotion, getting any of those other guys would require permission from their team.

 

[Manwiththeplan]

There was still 2 quarters of play left then and had the D made that final stand, Cardinals win...

The Cards defense got them back into the game because the Cards offense didn't get on track till the late third, early 4th.

 

[HanD]

There was still 2 quarters of play left then and had the D made that final stand, Cardinals win...

true. but that play was at minimum a 10 point swing if not a 14 point swing in the game. arizona had all the momentum going into the half tied or winning and getting the ball to start the second half. they made a game despite that play. the defense was solid the second half, holding the steelers to 3 points up until the last drive. that play had more impact on losing the game than the D not stopping the steelers on the last drive IMO. the steelers offense won the last drive as opposed to the cards losing the last drive. ben made some great plays avoiding the rush and holmes made a great catch.

 

[SLATEmosphere]

Sounds like Slate was more right than all the nonsense about hiring a "4-3" coach.


Cardinals play a "under front" as their base, same as Wade. Cardinals D looks like a 3-4 b/c of the way their front 7 line up. Wade has said in the past that his scheme looks like a 3-4 but has a lot of elements of a traditional 4-3 (D line one gaps instead of 2 gaps for one).


In any event, hiring Pendergrast would not be a bad hire, or even an ill fit. But I'd rather have Davis (the Cards LB coach) or better yet the DL coach for the Steelers (John Mitchell) or Eagles LB/Secondary Coach (Sean McDermott) as the new Cowboys DC.

Well thank you..I know my stuff! ha. People just assume it's a 4-3 and throw him out as a possibility. He would not be the worst move. Keep in mind that Cardinal defense had a few playmakers there on defense. There was no Ware on the Cardinal defense.

 

[JPM]

Color me skeptical of this. I wouldn't mind it though. It would shut up the Campo as DC rumors.

Houston Nutt FTMFW !

 

[Manwiththeplan]

Well thank you..I know my stuff! ha. People just assume it's a 4-3 and throw him out as a possibility. He would not be the worst move. Keep in mind that Cardinal defense had a few playmakers there on defense. There was no Ware on the Cardinal defense.

The article gave some insight to the Cards defense for this season, but to me I could've sworn they tried running a 3-4, but it wasn't working so they adjusted it to it's current form.

 

[DallasEast]

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Fixed.

 

[BAT]

Well thank you..I know my stuff! ha. People just assume it's a 4-3 and throw him out as a possibility. He would not be the worst move. Keep in mind that Cardinal defense had a few playmakers there on defense. There was no Ware on the Cardinal defense.

Cards may not have any DPOY candidate (Ware) but their overall talent on D was not just good, but deep.


I think their front 7 players compared favorably (maybe even better) to the Cowboys D. I think I would rather have Karlos Dansby, Darnell Dockett, Bertrand Berry, and Adrian Wilson over their counterparts currently on the Cowboys roster.


And I would take their backups over ours as well: Travis Laboy (over Spencer), Ali Highsmith (over Carpenter) & Calais Campbell (over Hatcher).

 

[Manwiththeplan]

Cards may not have any DPOY candidate (Ware) but their overall talent on D was not just good, but deep.


I think their front 7 players compared favorably (maybe even better) to the Cowboys D. I think I would rather have Karlos Dansby, Darnell Dockett, Bertrand Berry, and Adrian Wilson over their counterparts currently on the Cowboys roster.


And I would take their backups over ours as well: Travis Laboy (over Spencer), Ali Highsmith (over Carpenter) & Calais Campbell (over Hatcher).

Adrian Wilson isn't a front seven player.

So let me ask who is Darnell Dockett's counter part? Jay Ratliff probably, based on this past season I'd say push. Yeah Dockett's had more good seasons, but he's also been in the league longer. Bertrand Berry's counter part would be DeMarcus Ware. Either him or Canty if you want to go strickly by position, but that would mean Dansby's counter part is Ware. As far as the back-ups, I don't see what Campbell has done to make you take him over Hatcher and while LaBoy has a high motor and I agree we need guys like that, I'll still take Spencer.

 

[BAT]

Adrian Wilson isn't a front seven player.

You are right, he isn't. But thats picking nits. Wilson is better than either Roy, or Hamlin (if he slides over).

So let me ask who is Darnell Dockett's counter part? Jay Ratliff probably, based on this past season I'd say push. Yeah Dockett's had more good seasons, but he's also been in the league longer. Bertrand Berry's counter part would be DeMarcus Ware. Either him or Canty if you want to go strickly by position, but that would mean Dansby's counter part is Ware. As far as the back-ups, I don't see what Campbell has done to make you take him over Hatcher and while LaBoy has a high motor and I agree we need guys like that, I'll still take Spencer.

Dockett's counterpart is Chris Canty. Rat played NT, so his counterpart was Watson or one of the other rotational DTs.

Berry lined up on either side. He's better than Ellis. Dansby's counterpart is Zach Thomas, weakside INSIDE linebacker.


Hatcher has regressed and has done NOTHING the past 2 seasons. Campbell is youger and still has potential, not to mention more productive in college.


LaBoy is just as injury prone as Spencer, but he is more productive, in addition to his HIGH ENERGY more explosive play. You go ahead and take Spencer and his underachieving play.

 

[28 Joker]

Well thank you..I know my stuff! ha. People just assume it's a 4-3 and throw him out as a possibility. He would not be the worst move. Keep in mind that Cardinal defense had a few playmakers there on defense. There was no Ware on the Cardinal defense.

That's a good point. If the Cardinals have an edge rusher who can bring heat, they win. Backing DRC off of Holmes was a huge mistake. If your going to get beat, get beat being aggressive. DRC made a few plays in that game. Throwing up the white flag and letting Holmes run scott free cost them.

 

[Bleu Star]

I don't believe a word of this unless it comes from Ed Werder.

I see what you did there.