ESPN: McCarthy wouldn't budge from 5 yrs, Joneses wouldn't budge from 3 yrs

[Asklesko]

...and then they gave Schotty a four year contract.

Clown show

 

[Ranching]

I'm with Mike on this. After an embarrassing playoff loss, if you aren't going to clear house (players and coaches) but bring everyone back instead then you do the things necessary to make your team better where you got exposed. But the FO did nothing and hung him out to dry before the season even started. So all season long Mike had to hear chatter about whether he would be back or not or he's "coaching for his life," etc. which is embarrassing in itself. So Mike wanted security (and maybe a little payback) and wouldn't budge. I wouldn't either.

Now he has no paycheck and very little chance at another high paying job. Obviously, he wasn't confident in his ability to win in the next 3 years. He did us all a favor. If he had a sack, he would have walked, before he ruined his name by becoming a lameduck coach.

 

[Ranching]

Am I the only one who barfs in my mouth every time I read/hear schotty?

No....plenty of fans like you

 

[TwistedL0g1k]

Now he has more time to study analytics.

 

[DandyDon52]

I dont think the jones boys wanted mike back, they wanted a change, but mostly they dont want to pay decent or high money for
a good HC.
The reason they shunned BB was because he was making 20 mil a year in NE, and no way the jones boys wanted to pay
him even half that.
Pete probably wanted at least 10 mil, Payton too plus they had to pay NO for him.

They jones boys are scrooges, and a coaches salary comes out of their pockets not the cap.

So they are so cheap they want to pay in the 3-5 mil range. I read that mike was making 4 mil a year, which is below the norm.

They think they are so great themselves, that any HC should be able to win a SB here. They think it is partly luck, and getting hot at right
time lol.
Any one of 500 coaches will do!!!!!!!!!!!

I would be curious to know what they are paying shot, and did pay mike, if anyone finds out .
it is odd, because JG mad 6 mil a year didnt he?

 

[MarcusRock]

Now he has no paycheck and very little chance at another high paying job. Obviously, he wasn't confident in his ability to win in the next 3 years. He did us all a favor. If he had a sack, he would have walked, before he ruined his name by becoming a lameduck coach.

Hater. You should try to be more positive about things around here, lol. So who sucks more? Garrett or Mike?

 

[Ranching]

Hater. You should try to be more positive about things around here, lol. So who sucks more? Garrett or Mike?

Garrett!! No question about that! Lol

 

[khiladi]

"reportedly", meaning from his agent. Sounds like damage control, the timing of this release, because nobody wanted him. Let's be real, the Bears interviewed like 20 candidates and the Saints, a whole bunch. And McCarthy has ties to Loomis and the Saints, so him getting looks is not some proof he was wanted.

Jason Garrett also met with Jerry Jones when his contract ended. He met him 3 times per reports. Both contracts, Jason and Mike's were set to expire on January 14th.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id...-garrett-meet-cowboys-owner-jerry-jones-again

 

[MarcusRock]

Jerry didn’t want to commit long term because of his 1-3 playoff record. He was brought here to take the Cowboys to the next level and that didn’t happen. He basically gave McCarthy a take it or leave it. No one knows what’s going on in McCarthy’s head but he was clearly put off by the lack of commitment. Jerry wasn’t all in with him.

Unless, as I hinted in my original post, Mike never even planned to re-sign and just dragged it out to payback screw Jerry and send the FO scrambling to find a coach like it seems they did. All the hot candidates got snatched up, maybe because they were courted earlier. So maybe Mike's plan was to throw out an offer he knew wouldn't be received well to eat up time (more fat jokes) so the Cowboys would be at a disadvantage to find someone else. All speculation of course, but if asking for 5 years seems outrageous like it does to many here, maybe it was designed to be outrageous. Who looked worse in that breakup? Jerry or Mike? Who did sports media rail more? You think Jerry enjoyed that? Maybe the bastid did, lol.

P.S. - I'm a dang good conspiracy theorist when I put my mind to it. I wonder if there's a 5-year contract out there for me from Fox, lol.

 

[khiladi]

After 5 years, and the lack of postseason success I could see some pushback from ownership on not wanting another 5 year deal.
Of course the ownership appears to be too cheap to buyout any deal that's guaranteed salary.

IMO for Mike it's probably for the best to wait another year. Not like the options this year were as good as Dallas was 5 years ago.

He had a 4 year deal.

 

[khiladi]

Unless, as I hinted in my original post, Mike never even planned to re-sign and just dragged it out to payback screw Jerry and send the FO scrambling to find a coach like it seems they did. All the hot candidates got snatched up, maybe because they were courted earlier. So maybe Mike's plan was to throw out an offer he knew wouldn't be received well to eat up time (more fat jokes) so the Cowboys would be at a disadvantage to find someone else. All speculation of course, but if asking for 5 years seems outrageous like it does to many here, maybe it was designed to be outrageous. Who looked worse in that breakup? Jerry or Mike? Who did sports media rail more? You think Jerry enjoyed that? Maybe the bastid did, lol.

P.S. - I'm a dang good conspiracy theorist when I put my mind to it. I wonder if there's a 5-year contract out there for me from Fox, lol.

Based upon past precedent with Garrett, Jones did nothing different. This idea MM and Jerry met to discuss coaching options is a "report", yet he had multiple meetings with Garrett too, while letting the contract expire on the 14th. Jerry was never in a rush to hire a coach.

 

[OmerV]

And just me, I'm suspicious that Joneses started at 2 but ultimately said they'd be willing to do 3. That's why, then, they couldn't get to a compromise at 4 yrs.

I admire Mike for sticking to his guns, because if I were him, I'd consider 2 to be an insult, and 3 not sufficient. 4 would have been my minimum.

At the same time, I cannot not admire Joneses for capping it at 3. If I were them, I would have done exactly the same thing. If I'm just looking for someone who could win regular season games, then I'd be willing to do 4, but the prospect of more of the same post season futility would just be too much. In fact, it is only because Mike McCarthy does have a SB ring (attesting to the fact it's plausible he could have a break through) that I'd be willing to go beyond 2.

To me, they were both right.

I can't blame the Cowboys. McCarthy had 5 years and hasn't won a single playoff game, so committing to another 5, or even 4, seems like a lot. Had McCarthy accepted the 3 years that would have been 8 total. And yes, I know Jerry is a lot of the problem, but if 8 years went by without the team getting over the hump that would be more than enough to make a change

 

[KJJ]

Unless, as I hinted in my original post, Mike never even planned to re-sign and just dragged it out to payback screw Jerry and send the FO scrambling to find a coach like it seems they did. All the hot candidates got snatched up, maybe because they were courted earlier. So maybe Mike's plan was to throw out an offer he knew wouldn't be received well to eat up time (more fat jokes) so the Cowboys would be at a disadvantage to find someone else. All speculation of course, but if asking for 5 years seems outrageous like it does to many here, maybe it was designed to be outrageous. Who looked worse in that breakup? Jerry or Mike? Who did sports media rail more? You think Jerry enjoyed that? Maybe the bastid did, lol.

P.S. - I'm a dang good conspiracy theorist when I put my mind to it. I wonder if there's a 5-year contract out there for me from Fox, lol.

Sports media is always going to rail Jerry more. McCarthy was lucky to still have a job after the embarrassing playoff loss to Green Bay. We got no further in the playoffs with him than the other coaches Jerry moved on from. Jerry replaced him and no one else offered McCarthy a job. He’s a retread and most teams are looking for the next great young HC.

 

[MyFairLady]

If you are serious as a team about winning there is no difference between 3 years and 5 years. If you think the coach is your best chance you sign him. You can replace him any time you want. How can you ever rationalize he is our best chance to win a superbowl but only if we can get him on a 3 year deal instead of a 5 year deal. It is arrogance and laziness. Nothing more.

 

[rags747]

And just me, I'm suspicious that Joneses started at 2 but ultimately said they'd be willing to do 3. That's why, then, they couldn't get to a compromise at 4 yrs.

I admire Mike for sticking to his guns, because if I were him, I'd consider 2 to be an insult, and 3 not sufficient. 4 would have been my minimum.

At the same time, I cannot not admire Joneses for capping it at 3. If I were them, I would have done exactly the same thing. If I'm just looking for someone who could win regular season games, then I'd be willing to do 4, but the prospect of more of the same post season futility would just be too much. In fact, it is only because Mike McCarthy does have a SB ring (attesting to the fact it's plausible he could have a break through) that I'd be willing to go beyond 2.

To me, they were both right.

So u would have been out of work as well! By refusing The 3 years Big Mike passed on $24 Million additional retirement funding, not a good move on his part.

 

[KingCorcoran]

McCarthy might be regretting not taking the offer. Now he’s out of work.

Jerry might regret not giving him the five year deal.

 

[rags747]

I dont think the jones boys wanted mike back, they wanted a change, but mostly they dont want to pay decent or high money for
a good HC.
The reason they shunned BB was because he was making 20 mil a year in NE, and no way the jones boys wanted to pay
him even half that.
Pete probably wanted at least 10 mil, Payton too plus they had to pay NO for him.

They jones boys are scrooges, and a coaches salary comes out of their pockets not the cap.

So they are so cheap they want to pay in the 3-5 mil range. I read that mike was making 4 mil a year, which is below the norm.

They think they are so great themselves, that any HC should be able to win a SB here. They think it is partly luck, and getting hot at right
time lol.
Any one of 500 coaches will do!!!!!!!!!!!

I would be curious to know what they are paying shot, and did pay mike, if anyone finds out .
it is odd, because JG mad 6 mil a year didnt he?

Mike was making $8m per year So he passed on a minimum $24m.

 

[BLEU3ASY]

I’m with the Joneses on this one, come on dude you had five years and they were going to give you three more. Never advanced past a divisional. Nah im not going to let yall bad talk big JJ!!!


It’s crazy when these stories break we really see how off the assumptions were.. smh

 

[TheSport78]

Jerry pretty much just showed how many more years Dak has (3). I'm hoping it's 2.

 

[Mr_437]

Don't know what angle the writer is taking on this but a 4 year contract seems like an easy solution.