ESPN: McCarthy wouldn't budge from 5 yrs, Joneses wouldn't budge from 3 yrs

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How many empowered HC’s are there? Most aren’t the lone voice on the team and can fire and hire assistants. Garrett won more playoff games in Dallas than McCarthy.
Hey, I'm in the minority that actually understood why Coach Clap acted the way he did. He is the only coach we've had - other than Parcells - who understood that you must manage Jerry. That's how he lasted so long. McCarthy was a doofus step stool for Jerry that he didn't mind publicly flogging. My fear is that "Schotty" is a wholehearted Jerry stooge...why else would they take this risk at this time to hire him?
 

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I dont think the jones boys wanted mike back, they wanted a change, but mostly they dont want to pay decent or high money for
a good HC.

The reason they shunned BB was because he was making 20 mil a year in NE, and no way the jones boys wanted to pay
him even half that.
Pete probably wanted at least 10 mil, Payton too plus they had to pay NO for him.

They jones boys are scrooges, and a coaches salary comes out of their pockets not the cap.

So they are so cheap they want to pay in the 3-5 mil range. I read that mike was making 4 mil a year, which is below the norm.

They think they are so great themselves, that any HC should be able to win a SB here. They think it is partly luck, and getting hot at right
time lol.
Any one of 500 coaches will do!!!!!!!!!!!

I would be curious to know what they are paying shot, and did pay mike, if anyone finds out .
it is odd, because JG mad 6 mil a year didnt he?
I seriously doubt that. He had an opportunity to do that and didn’t want to commit that long. McCarthy didn’t get the job done here.
Washington twice, Philadelphia twice, Detroit, Minnesota, Green Bay, Kansas City, Denver Broncos, LA chargers. Schottenheimer isn’t winning seven games next season. And Jerry will never terminate a head coach with any years left on his deal. This has every chance of being a big mistake.
 

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I'm not. He got five years and his teams won one playoff game. I think three years was perfectly reasonable based on the result. If he wanted to hold the Joneses responsible for the result, that's fine. But the owner of the team hired him for a job and he didn't get it done up to expectations. Three years was reasonable.
Then the firing should have happened last year. But when ownership is on record hamstringing you for your last season and maybe use it to try to drive down the price/years in negotiations after they brought you back then you have to counter with something that protects you from that kind of garbage in case it happens yet again next off-season. Can he guarantee it won't or should he believe another Jerry "all in" promise of better groceries? It's similar to owners taking advantage of players for decades in this game and players now having more leverage to use when it comes to what they want financially. Or should they just trust ol' honest engine owners given the history? Hell's no. Don't tell me I didn't do the job (when you didn't help in that regard) then say you're still willing to negotiate with me but won't ante up safeguards to protect against your part in the mess. So if they won't protect you how you see fit, you walk.
 

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Why give shotty 4 if they wouldn't extend mike for 4? None of this makes sense. After 5 years with a guy you should know how you feel about that person.
Because McCarthy already had five years to get it done. There's a big difference in nine years and four for a head coach. It can take a couple of years just to get the staff you want. For example, at first we hired Mike Nolan as defensive coordinator for McCarthy because McCarthy had a relationship with him and he was available. He failed and Quinn became available. Some of these coaches may ultimately just be placeholders. Same with some players. You want to fix everything, but especially with this front office, you may have to do it in phases. New coach gets that opportunity. Extended coach should already have most of what he needs in place to contend after five years.
 

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I dont think the jones boys wanted mike back, they wanted a change, but mostly they dont want to pay decent or high money for
a good HC.

The reason they shunned BB was because he was making 20 mil a year in NE, and no way the jones boys wanted to pay
him even half that.
Pete probably wanted at least 10 mil, Payton too plus they had to pay NO for him.

They jones boys are scrooges, and a coaches salary comes out of their pockets not the cap.

So they are so cheap they want to pay in the 3-5 mil range. I read that mike was making 4 mil a year, which is below the norm.

They think they are so great themselves, that any HC should be able to win a SB here. They think it is partly luck, and getting hot at right
time lol.
Any one of 500 coaches will do!!!!!!!!!!!

I would be curious to know what they are paying shot, and did pay mike, if anyone finds out .
it is odd, because JG mad 6 mil a year didnt he?
lol they wanted him back
It’s very clear
 

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5 yrs produced a Todd Bowles beating in the playoffs when 8-9 Tampa disgraced the NFL by making the playoffs .

Three years offered by Jerry is more then generous and enough time to prove the team is on the right track . You notice no one else has hired him .
 

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Washington twice, Philadelphia twice, Detroit, Minnesota, Green Bay, Kansas City, Denver Broncos, LA chargers. Schottenheimer isn’t winning seven games next season. And Jerry will never terminate a head coach with any years left on his deal. This has every chance of being a big mistake.
He terminated Gailey with years left on his deal. I believe Wade had at least another year on his and Switzer may have had years left on his.
 

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If you believe he’s the right guy, you don’t quibble over 2 years. Jerry is just petty and cheap. He doesn’t care about winning.
 

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Think McCarthy thought he was more though after then he was, deep down his feeling was if it didn’t workout is Dallas the Chicago job was his.
 

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Then Jerry obviously loved MM, because he kept him and tried to keep him, albeit for only three years. MM has been a head coach in the NFL long enough to know that even if Jerry Jones is the only owner offering you a HC job, don’t settle. Because he’s an a*****e and has no desire to do what it takes to build a team that can win in the contemporary NFL.

Like Pederson, like Vrabel, both took a year off before returning, a team will come looking for Mike McCarthy. Schottenheimer is not going to propel the Cowboys in front of Washington and Philly next season. And one of those two won’t make the playoffs. Next season will be more difficult to watch than this one was.
Struggle of a team having to grow in today's NFL is very rewardinng. Ask Detroit...where truck drivers got on the CB saying, don't worry, be happy.
 

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Then Jerry obviously loved MM, because he kept him and tried to keep him, albeit for only three years. MM has been a head coach in the NFL long enough to know that even if Jerry Jones is the only owner offering you a HC job, don’t settle. Because he’s an a*****e and has no desire to do what it takes to build a team that can win in the contemporary NFL.

Like Pederson, like Vrabel, both took a year off before returning, a team will come looking for Mike McCarthy. Schottenheimer is not going to propel the Cowboys in front of Washington and Philly next season. And one of those two won’t make the playoffs. Next season will be more difficult to watch than this one was.
If Jerry loved McCarthy he wouldn’t have had him enter the 2024 season as a lame duck. If he loved him he would have offered him a 5 year extension. The Cowboys are going to continue spinning their wheels regardless who’s coaching the team.
 

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Well crap. Suddenly, this makes me wonder whether this contractual length standoff has existed since the Green Bay playoff debacle until earlier this month.

If so, it does not make sense to me Jones did not fire McCarthy at some point during the season. What was the expectation? That McCarthy was going to thank his Lucky Magic Charms and eventually concede to his three-year demand?
I tend to think they thought they had him cornered by denying him the Chicago interview.
Cheap schweinehunds.
 

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If Jerry loved McCarthy he wouldn’t have had him enter the 2024 season as a lame duck. If he loved him he would have offered him a 5 year extension. The Cowboys are going to continue spinning their wheels regardless who’s coaching the team.
There isn’t any pride being stuck inside a slowly sinking ship. The Cowboys will now spin their wheels without McCarthy.
 

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One is out of a job. So I'd say McCarthy made the wrong decision. He will never be a head coach in this league again. But good on him for sticking to his guns.
Intriguing viewpoint, but, on what basis is it a wrong decision? He has money. This was pride and prejudice (of sorts) and they had a stare down. A five year deal gives McCarthy more money should the Jones have decided to buy out his remaining contract and fire him at some point. They dangled him and might as well have put him in the public square in stocks with a sign saying, "We own you." Whips and chains wheeler-dealers.
On the other hand, he knows their nature and played dice anyway.

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