ESPN Mosley: Cowboys like the look of DE Tyson Jackson

[AKATheRake]

Giving Canty a huge contract would be ridiculous. He's yet to prove he's anything more than an average player.

Good teams draft replacements, plug them in, and let teams like Dallas overpay for their mediocre free agents.

Totally agree and that's why it is an option outlined in my original post. But don't think we're all goo goo gaga over this LSU player. Fact is, other than Roy Williams, I don't remember when we have actually drafted a player the media said we coveted pre draft. The number 1 option is getting Canty at a fair price as per my original post.

Tommy Kelly money isn't happening and his agent has gone on record to clarify his original statement in regards to receiving a comparable contract. In fact he hurt Canty's FA negotiations leverage wise with other possible suitors now because no one believes the Cowboys are interested in their own player because of the price and he can't leverage a definite suitor now in negotiations. So the Cowboys said, "go test the market and it can decide your price. If we feel you're worth that price than we talk". Good.

 

[DallasEast]

I wasn't speaking strictly about pressure, but I think Ratliff would provide more than Canty did, especially facing more single blocking.

But I also think having a true nose tackle would help in run defense as well.

:signmast:

 

[landryscorner]

#51 ????????

Fail...look were so deep in the draft I think Cowboys mock drafts are just silly this year, not to be negative, but really even when we have first and second rounders its hard to guess....I think this year draft talk will be just useless...sorry but its true

 

[Randy White]

Fact is, other than Roy Williams, I don't remember when we have actually drafted a player the media said we coveted pre draft. .

Meet Felix Jones.. your #1 pick in 2008. Just about everybody and their grandmas were saying the cowboys were going to pick him..

:starspin

 

[Bob Sacamano]

None of them are huge losses. It still doesn't change the fact that we have possibly 3 roster spots to fill, including one starting position, with not many resources available to fill them with.

Moving Ratliff to DE just means the Cowboys have to find two noseguards this offseason instead of just 1. 1 starting caliber NT (good luck) and one backup.

Brace is a nice idea, until you realize he probably doesn't last to 51. Then what? Just reach for whatever NT is next on the board, even if he's a projected 4th rounder, and hope and pray he's ready to play as a rookie?

we have 9, possibly 11 draft picks (comp picks)

you don't need to spend high picks to secure quality 3-4 DEs

 

[Bob Sacamano]

I doubt, very seriously, that Roy Williams would have been on the open market in a couple of weeks. Just like with the Panters and Peppers, even though they know he doesn't want to be there anymore, they would have tagged Williams to get something out of him instead of just letting him walk.

see Julius Peppers

he wants out of Carolina, yet still got the tag

 

[theogt]

Fact is, other than Roy Williams, I don't remember when we have actually drafted a player the media said we coveted pre draft.

Pretty much every first round pick for the past several years has been reported before we picked it.

 

[ThreeSportStar80]

Man what is it with the Cowboys love affair with LSU football players???? Tyson Jackson is pretty good but come on now... They need to focus on getting young offensive linemen!

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Man what is it with the Cowboys love affair with LSU football players???? Tyson Jackson is pretty good but come on now... They need to focus on getting young offensive linemen!

the Cowboys just love the SEC in general

 

[ThreeSportStar80]

the Cowboys just love the SEC in general

Well they need to find a young athletic SEC offensive tackle, preferably a LEFT TACKLE to groom.

 

[dbair1967]

the Cowboys just love the SEC in general

all teams love the SEC...by far the best NFL talent, and its not even close

 

[dbair1967]

Man what is it with the Cowboys love affair with LSU football players???? Tyson Jackson is pretty good but come on now... They need to focus on getting young offensive linemen!

They just need to focus on doing what they've been doing, which is drafting the best players available.

If Tyson Jackson is the highest rated player on the Cowboys draft board when they pick, they should definitely draft him. Especially if they think he can be an immediate starter at a position we'll probably lose one at.

They are looking at some major turnover at DL this yr and next yr. Spears is in the last yr of his deal and may or may not be re-signed. Hatcher has been a disappointment, Bowen is a try hard guy but is a JAG. They have nothing at NT besides Ratliff.

 

[28 Joker]

all teams love the SEC...by far the best NFL talent, and its not even close

Look out... DaBoys4life won't like it.


I agree with you. The SEC has more players in the NFL than any other conference. The ACC is second.

 

[SLATEmosphere]

I actually wouldn't even go after a D-lineman except a NT in the draft..We have more than enough to get the job done.

Ratliff,Spears,Brace(I hope),Bowen and Hatcher is a core group that could succeed for years to come.

 

[dbair1967]

I actually wouldn't even go after a D-lineman except a NT in the draft..We have more than enough to get the job done.

Ratliff,Spears,Brace(I hope),Bowen and Hatcher is a core group that could succeed for years to come.

Nothing wrong with Ratliff and Spears, but there's nothing behind them here. Hatcher has really regressed and Bowen is a JAG. If Canty leaves (a given IMO) we definitely need another DE, and it'd be easier to draft a starting 3-4 DE than a 3-4 NT.

Moving Ratliff to DE might be ok, but we'd be losing a major mismatch for opponents in the middle if we do, and none of this yrs draft NT's will be anywhere near as good as he is, especially one's hanging around in the 2nd or 3rd rd (or later)

 

[28 Joker]

They just need to focus on doing what they've been doing, which is drafting the best players available.

If Tyson Jackson is the highest rated player on the Cowboys draft board when they pick, they should definitely draft him. Especially if they think he can be an immediate starter at a position we'll probably lose one at.

They are looking at some major turnover at DL this yr and next yr. Spears is in the last yr of his deal and may or may not be re-signed. Hatcher has been a disappointment, Bowen is a try hard guy but is a JAG. They have nothing at NT besides Ratliff.

There is one of the delimas. I still have hope for Jason Hatcher. I think you are selling him a little short, but that is just my opinion.

The Cowboys need some young, blue-chip blood on that offensive line or in that pipeline. I'm talking about 2nd and 3rd round guys or higher rated prospects, too. The two blue-chip guards would be an example. The odds will go up this year, because Jeff Ireland isn't here to screw up the offensive line picks. He picked his guys based on Bill Parcells' template for them. That wasn't Parcells strength when he was here. He did find Colombo, though. Peterman got hurt, and now, he's doing good. However, the other guys were not good at all.

You can't draft defense forever, and I love defense. Romo is going to get killed if Dallas doesn't act during this draft. You can't keep paying Leonard Davis money, either.

BPA is the way to go for sure. It should be a meat and potatos draft for Dallas. They need multiple safeties, too. They need another 3rd rounder, imo.

 

[28 Joker]

Bunting, at the National Football Post, rates Tyson Jackson in the second tier. NFLDraftScout projects him in the late first-early second round.

Bunting rates him the number two 3-4 DE, behind Jarron Gilbert of San Diego State. In his last mock, he gave Jackson to GB and Gilbert to Miami.

He rates Everette Pediscleaxx (6-6 305) as the number 3 3-4 DE. This is the guy I would look at.

I hope Jackson is gone. Take him, please. Dallas has bigger fish to fry.

It would be nice to lock up Spears and Hatcher, especially if Hatcher has a break out year.

Vela says offensive line and safety are the top priorities, and I'm sticking with him. I trust him.

 

[SLATEmosphere]

Nothing wrong with Ratliff and Spears, but there's nothing behind them here. Hatcher has really regressed and Bowen is a JAG. If Canty leaves (a given IMO) we definitely need another DE, and it'd be easier to draft a starting 3-4 DE than a 3-4 NT.

Moving Ratliff to DE might be ok, but we'd be losing a major mismatch for opponents in the middle if we do, and none of this yrs draft NT's will be anywhere near as good as he is, especially one's hanging around in the 2nd or 3rd rd (or later)

Jay Ratliff completely had a drop off in his production during the last 6 games. His body type in not suited for a NT. Ya he is great, but you have to look at long term..he is going to get beat up constantly going up the middle. Thats why you need a big NT to do that work. Brace is no slouch. He could create pressure just like Ratliff, while giving him some rest.

 

[LSUCowboy]

Okay I'm going to put in my two cents as an LSU and Dallas Cowboys fan...

From Dallas' draft perspective if he is available when we pick I don't see the harm in taking him simply because of his draft value and sheer potential. He is athletic, he is big, and he is reasonably quick. The potential is certainly there, and if he is the highest person on Dallas' draft board at the time and IF there is no better option at offensive tackle, or a true pass rushing OLB, then I would take him. Having said that, Tyson has underachieved in the LSU uniform the last two seasons. He had a monster sophomore year, but failed to live up to his lofty expectations his junior and senior year. He really isn't a guy that I would depend on, though it seems he is fit for the 3-4. It doesn't surprise me that people would be fearful of taking a chance on him, seeing as he is a not a sure thing (but hell, show me one current draft prospect who is).

I can tell you right now, however, that there is no way he ends up being available when we pick. He's rated pretty high as a defensive end, and in a league where more and more teams are going with the 3-4 SOMEBODY will take him. So to debate whether or not we should draft him is a stupid debate. He simply won't be there. Not saying he necessarily deserves to go sooner, but he will.

One LSU player I'd take a long hard look at (even before Tyson) is Herman Johnson, an offensive guard. The guy is a mammoth at 6'7" 364#. He pretty much anchors our offensive line on the left side (zero sacks from the left), and although his practice workouts may not impress everyone no one can deny the fact that he throws defenders around at will. Also.... he's injury free. Herman has surprisingly not received a lot of attention, which is a good thing. I think we may be able to snag him in the 2nd or 3rd round. He is definitely the guy whom I have the most faith in. He is pretty much Nate Newton 2.0. Wherever he goes, I think he's going to have a long nice career.

 

[dbair1967]

Okay I'm going to put in my two cents as an LSU and Dallas Cowboys fan...

From Dallas' draft perspective if he is available when we pick I don't see the harm in taking him simply because of his draft value and sheer potential. He is athletic, he is big, and he is reasonably quick. The potential is certainly there, and if he is the highest person on Dallas' draft board at the time and IF there is no better option at offensive tackle, or a true pass rushing OLB, then I would take him. Having said that, Tyson has underachieved in the LSU uniform the last two seasons. He had a monster sophomore year, but failed to live up to his lofty expectations his junior and senior year. He really isn't a guy that I would depend on, though it seems he is fit for the 3-4. It doesn't surprise me that people would be fearful of taking a chance on him, seeing as he is a not a sure thing (but hell, show me one current draft prospect who is).

I can tell you right now, however, that there is no way he ends up being available when we pick. He's rated pretty high as a defensive end, and in a league where more and more teams are going with the 3-4 SOMEBODY will take him. So to debate whether or not we should draft him is a stupid debate. He simply won't be there. Not saying he necessarily deserves to go sooner, but he will.

One LSU player I'd take a long hard look at (even before Tyson) is Herman Johnson, an offensive guard. The guy is a mammoth at 6'7" 364#. He pretty much anchors our offensive line on the right side (zero sacks from the right), and although his practice workouts may not impress everyone no one can deny the fact that he throws defenders around at will. Also.... he's injury free. Herman has surprisingly not received a lot of attention, which is a good thing. I think we may be able to snag him in the 2nd or 3rd round. He is definitely the guy whom I have the most faith in. He is pretty much Nate Newton 2.0. Wherever he goes, I think he's going to have a long nice career.

I still like Deon Anderson some, but I really like the LSU FB as well. I definitely wouldnt be opposed to using a late pick on him.