ESPN Mosley: The scout who fought for Emmitt

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gimmesix;3266619 said:
When we look back on draft classes, we give way too much credit/discredit to the coaches and, really, anyone involved for how well the class turned out.

So much goes into it, including lots and lots of luck.

Jason Witten is one that immediately comes to mind. That was a masterstroke by Parcells and Co. to grab him in the third round of the draft. But it was also very lucky that he was available in the third round, when his success shows he should have been a high first-round pick.

Some years the luck's with you, some years it's not.

That doesn't discount some teams being better at drafting than others, just that a lot of other variables are in play to determine whether you have a good or bad draft.

Amen! Amen!

Jimmy caught lightning in a bottle during his tenure in Dallas. Yet he couldn't replicate it in Miami. Because of the cap, because of Marino, etc. We've heard all the excuses, and some maybe have some validity.

Jimmy, to his credit, knocked the ball out of the park in Dallas. But he probably gets more credit than he deserves. Good fortune played a very significant role.
 

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LilTexan;3266502 said:
Very cool and a little disconcerting. How easily we could have passed him by and let him be great for someone else.

May our talent scouts always possess the insight to spot the diamonds in the rough, and the cojones to make it happen!
I wonder just how great Emmitt would have been on any other team. In Dallas, he had the perfect blend of Top notch QB, elite WR, and superb offensive line. I doubt he would have had anywhere near the same success elsewhere. I'm not discounting his ability, mind you, because he is a "no brainer" HOFer. I'm just saying that having a great team around you (at any position) will likely elevate your stats. In that same vein, Emmitt aided Troy's and Michael's careers.
 

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Great story. Tony and Emmitt had two different styles. I had rather have Tony.
 

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jobberone;3266847 said:
Great story. Tony and Emmitt had two different styles. I had rather have Tony.

Tony Dorsett was the most effortless RB I have ever seen... he seemed to just glide across the field...

Poetry in motion...
 

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Romo 2 Austin;3266594 said:
Emmitt is the best RB in the NFLs history.

You sure about that?

Can you imagine Dorsett running behind the OL Emmitt had?

Can you imagine Barry Sanders behind the OL Emmitt had?

If Sander's wouldn't have quit, he would have easily have had the rushing record.

Don't get me wrong. Emmitt was great. But, so were many of the players around him. It was a total team effort. Emmitt made the OL better, and the OL made Emmitt better. Irvin and Aikman made Emmitt better and Emmitt made Aikman and Irvin better.
 

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ninja;3266900 said:
You sure about that?

Can you imagine Dorsett running behind the OL Emmitt had?

Can you imagine Barry Sanders behind the OL Emmitt had?

If Sander's wouldn't have quit, he would have easily have had the rushing record.

Don't get me wrong. Emmitt was great. But, so were many of the players around him. It was a total team effort. Emmitt made the OL better, and the OL made Emmitt better. Irvin and Aikman made Emmitt better and Emmitt made Aikman and Irvin better.
It would have been a horrible mess. He did not like running between the tackles.
 

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Hostile;3266645 said:
I will tell you why he is no longer employed by Jerry Jones when you tell me who he is employed by and prove it makes Jones look bad.

Come on, Hos. Yowarsky is only 81 years old. Put him back to work, Jerry!
 

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Hostile;3266909 said:
It would have been a horrible mess. He did not like running between the tackles.

That always pisses me off... Barry had Pro Bowl linemen...
 

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ninja;3266900 said:
You sure about that?

Can you imagine Dorsett running behind the OL Emmitt had?

Can you imagine Barry Sanders behind the OL Emmitt had?

If Sander's wouldn't have quit, he would have easily have had the rushing record.

Don't get me wrong. Emmitt was great. But, so were many of the players around him. It was a total team effort. Emmitt made the OL better, and the OL made Emmitt better. Irvin and Aikman made Emmitt better and Emmitt made Aikman and Irvin better.

I think the key to both of these backs was the vision they had...

They were always a few seconds ahead of the defense in regards to their next move...

People forget that Dorsett played at 175 pounds... it was his vision that kept him healthy... same with Emmitt... but he was 205 pounds and 3" shorter, so he had a little more beef on his frame...
 

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AdamJT13;3266922 said:
Come on, Hos. Yowarsky is only 81 years old. Put him back to work, Jerry!
I get so tired of the crap that I want to scream. Anything to take a stupid pot shot at the team and/or Jerry Jones.

I bet he doesn't know a damned thing about the man or how loyal he was to the Cowboys.
 

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trickblue;3266924 said:
That always pisses me off... Barry had Pro Bowl linemen...
Lomas Brown in particular was a tremendous OT. People who say Barry had no o-line are dead wrong. Barry would not have flourished behind our O-line who I consider the best ever. Only the Rams with Jackie Slater and company come close. IMO. Barry did not run between the Tackles. he would not have done well in Dallas. I thank God he was never anywhere near this team.
 

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Hostile;3266934 said:
Lomas Brown in particular was a tremendous OT. People who say Barry had no o-line are dead wrong. Barry would not have flourished behind our O-line who I consider the best ever. Only the Rams with Jackie Slater and company come close. IMO. Barry did not run between the Tackles. he would not have done well in Dallas. I thank God he was never anywhere near this team.

Exactly... Sanders was a GREAT RB, but he danced between tackles as opposed to Emmitt who hit the hole hard...

I don't particularly like Emmitt as an analyst, but his talent as a RB in undeniable...
 

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Somebody get him back at Valley Ranch :D Smith and Irvin.......let him scout for us now!
 

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ninja;3266900 said:
You sure about that?

Can you imagine Dorsett running behind the OL Emmitt had?

Can you imagine Barry Sanders behind the OL Emmitt had?

If Sander's wouldn't have quit, he would have easily have had the rushing record.

Don't get me wrong. Emmitt was great. But, so were many of the players around him. It was a total team effort. Emmitt made the OL better, and the OL made Emmitt better. Irvin and Aikman made Emmitt better and Emmitt made Aikman and Irvin better.

If you're going to make the argument, make it for Payton or Brown, not Barry Freakin' Sanders. And then remember that--with the obvious exceptions of early E Williams and Larry Allen--it was Emmitt who made the line look so good and not the other way around.
 

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joseephuss;3266545 said:
That scout was wrong about Emmitt. I still remember Tony Dorsett.

Yeah, but do you remember Blair Thomas who was chosen 2nd in the draft? (Correct me if I'm wrong) :D
 

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I love these quotes cause it shows how overrated the 40 yard dash really is.

Yaworsky said to hell with 40-yard dash times and informed Johnson and Jerry Jones that Smith had the best vision of any running back he'd ever scouted.

" Old-school scouts such as Yaworsky knew that 40-yard dash times, while instructive, shouldn't define players.

Smith never ran better than a 4.5 40-yard dash, but it was his ability to change direction on a dime without losing speed that made him so special. Football isn't played on a straight line and that's why it's not a given that a 4.3 40-yard dash will translate to great rushing numbers.
 

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marchetta;3267386 said:
Yeah, but do you remember Blair Thomas who was chosen 2nd in the draft? (Correct me if I'm wrong) :D

The only Blair Thomas I remember is the one who played briefly for the Cowboys at the end of the 1994 regular season and playoffs.
 

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Rampage;3267400 said:
I love these quotes cause it shows how overrated the 40 yard dash really is.

Yaworsky said to hell with 40-yard dash times and informed Johnson and Jerry Jones that Smith had the best vision of any running back he'd ever scouted.

" Old-school scouts such as Yaworsky knew that 40-yard dash times, while instructive, shouldn't define players.

Smith never ran better than a 4.5 40-yard dash, but it was his ability to change direction on a dime without losing speed that made him so special. Football isn't played on a straight line and that's why it's not a given that a 4.3 40-yard dash will translate to great rushing numbers.

I agree. I think the burst a RB has when he sees day light is more important. The difference between a 4.3 and 4.5 is not that great once you clear the LB and in the open field the hard part is getting to the open field which is that 1st 5 to 10 yards. Great ones see the hole and are able to hit it quick
 
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