FEATURED ESPN: Tempers flare as Eagles defend tush push in heated debate (Jerry comments)

[CWR]

If Dallas was doing this it would be banned.

Irvins push off, Barbers stiff arm to the helmet, Roy Williams horse collar etc.

Yeah there are quite a few rules that came about with our players being the supposed catalyst.

 

[quickccc]

Don't be surprised if we have several nfl teams " Faking " injuries on the ground after a tush push play.. so they can collect data recorded into, going into next year's proposal push to ban Tush Push.

 

[Teague31]

Irrelevant. Just like the entire Eagles franchise.

 

[KingCorcoran]

Don't be surprised if we have several nfl teams " Faking " injuries on the ground after a tush push play.. so they can collect data recorded into, going into next year's proposal push to ban Tush Push.

Faking an injury in the NFL will result in fines, suspensions, and forfeiture of draft picks. No team is going risk that kind of ridiculous behavior.

 

[Chuck 54]

I hate it, but I also hate OL pushing RBs into the end zone. I remember when assisting a runner, be it QB or anyone else, was a penalty. Block, run, and tackle. I do not like seeing the player pushed in.

 

[Bigdog]

If Dallas was doing this it would be banned.

Well the Roy Williams horse collar rule was banned but that did lead to some injuries

 

[Hardline]

All 31 other teams are free to develop their own tush push.
I would've loved having Cam Scataboo on this team to run it.

 

[Spottswoode]

I am fine with the play, but the rule should applet to both offense and defense. If you can push your teammates on offense, why can't you push your teammates on defense?

How can it be a safety issue on Defense and not on offense?

Unfortunately most rules benefit the offense at the expense of the defense.

If they are going to allow offensive players to assist players forward, the defenders should be allowed to hold the player up while others push the pile 10 yards backwards. But that doesn’t happen because of forward progress.

I don’t want player assists either direction. And I’m tired of seeing the league neutering the defense to benefit the offense.

 

[McKDaddy]

If you can push your teammates on offense, why can't you push your teammates on defense?

Exactly, why can't they blow up kicks? Propel each other up to block them? If the offense can carry a player forward, why can't they defense carry him backwards until he goes down?

 

[Bobhaze]

Irvins push off, Barbers stiff arm to the helmet, Roy Williams horse collar etc.

Yeah there are quite a few rules that came about with our players being the supposed catalyst.

When your team is really good…sometimes rules change.

Emmitt Smith taking his helmet off after scoring was banned because people were tired of seeing him score all the time. Michael Irvin’s less than subtle push offs led to tightening those situations.

The bigger point to me is this: None of our players has forced a rules change in a very long time.

 

[KingCorcoran]

Exactly, why can't they blow up kicks? Propel each other up to block them? If the offense can carry a player forward, why can't they defense carry him backwards until he goes down?

The owners make the rules. That’s why. Perhaps if the fans buy more logo key chains and replica jerseys the owner will let fans vote on the rules.

 

[KingCorcoran]

When your team is really good…sometimes rules change.

Emmitt Smith taking his helmet off after scoring was banned because people were tired of seeing him score all the time. Michael Irvin’s less than subtle push offs led to tightening those situations.

The bigger point to me is this: None of our players has forced a rules change in a very long time.

Changing the rule to allow pushing the ball carrier Jerry Jones voted for back in 2005. The owner of the Eagles voted against it. Thanks, Jerry.

 

[McKDaddy]

The owners make the rules. That’s why. Perhaps if the fans buy more logo key chains and replica jerseys the owner will let fans vote on the rules.

That doesn't explain the logic or lack thereof behind what they do though.

And no, they aren't going to share the power with anyone.

 

[DallasEast]

Changing the rule to allow pushing the ball carrier Jerry Jones voted for back in 2005. The owner of the Eagles voted against it. Thanks, Jerry.

As it applies to on-the-field application, Jones' rules comprehension likely peaked in the mid-1960's as an Arkansas Razorback.

 

[Blue&Silver]

The injury angle isn't a good one. I don't recall anyone getting hurt from it, and certainly not the Eagles. It's not something new. Teams have done it forever. The Eagles just have a giant
offensive line. It wouldn't matter whether the banned it or not. They still have success running the QB sneak whether a player pushed or not.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

I honestly don't care that it's the Eagles. The point is, football isn't supposed to be a contest of how many OL or fullback types you can line up behind a ball carrier and push him forward.

I'm surprised there weren't enough owners with the sense to vote it down. Someone is going to get their neck smashed in that mass of humanity and they're going to have to answer for it.

 

[Creeper]

I will acknowledge that the Eagles run the Tush push play better than any team in the league. I am surprised no one has figured out how to do the same thing yet.

But I still oppose the play regardless of who runs it well. I have never liked how offensive linemen can shove running backs over the goal line or line to gain. I think all assistance to the runner needs to be banned. I've seen plays where RBs are carried over the goal line or pulled into the end zone and the refs don't call it. It has gone too far. I am sympathetic to the argument that the Tush Push doesn't look like a football play. Football is not rugby and we don't want it to look like rugby.

But as long as it is legal, I suggest every team figure out how to run it because I do not see how to stop it if it is run well.

 

[BigBlacKahuna]

Just let the defense do it too!

 

[CWR]

When your team is really good…sometimes rules change.

Emmitt Smith taking his helmet off after scoring was banned because people were tired of seeing him score all the time. Michael Irvin’s less than subtle push offs led to tightening those situations.

The bigger point to me is this: None of our players has forced a rules change in a very long time.

Thats a sad fact brother.

 

[zrinkill]

There’s no need to ban it

When other teams run it they don’t run it effectively as Philly does

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