ESPN: Without Tom Brady, Patriots-Cowboys meeting not the same

[dogberry]

Will Brady's lawyers be bright enough to take advantage of the stat and physical science experts ready to pull apart the NFL's report?

 

[PA Cowboy Fan]

A win is a win. What do I care who plays?

 

[hornitosmonster]

Will Brady's lawyers be bright enough to take advantage of the stat and physical science experts ready to pull apart the NFL's report?

Will Brady be ready to see his phone records subpoenaed? What will Kraft do when he finds out his idol lied to him...

 

[JD_KaPow]

 

[Joe Realist]

Brady will play.

 

[LandryFan]

Will Brady's lawyers be bright enough to take advantage of the stat and physical science experts ready to pull apart the NFL's report?

His lawsuit will not be about guilt/innocence or investigations. It will be about how the NFL handles appeals. I certainly could be wrong, but given that the procedures that Goodell followed were given to him by the players via the CBA, I don't see how Brady prevails. JMO.

 

[DandyDon52]

That's a good way to see it as well. I'm pretty sure Garoppolo will be likely to prove an extremely competent adversary, so the Cowboys will surely be obliged to earn it, with or without Brady in the lineup.

He might be good, he will have 3-4 games exp . by time he plays cowboys.
No Brady doesnt mean it is a easy win.

 

[reddyuta]

His lawsuit will not be about guilt/innocence or investigations. It will be about how the NFL handles appeals. I certainly could be wrong, but given that the procedures that Goodell followed were given to him by the players via the CBA, I don't see how Brady prevails. JMO.

this is my understanding too,i would imagine this case is quite different form that of AD or Ray rice and Goodell has broad discretionary powers on how to handle it.

 

[erod]

From the attorneys I've heard speak on this, it very well might not even see a federal court room.

 

[hornitosmonster]

From the attorneys I've heard speak on this, it very well might not even see a federal court room.

That's what many lawyers have been saying around sports radio. Brady is done and any injunction will delay his four game suspension until the end of the season or even the playoffs. Brady will be cautioned to serve it now and get it over with

 

[5Stars]

Brady will play.

I hope that punk does play!

 

[LandryFan]

From the attorneys I've heard speak on this, it very well might not even see a federal court room.

I've not had the opportunity to hear any of the legal experts talk about this. What is the prevailing opinion on a likely outcome (if there is one)?

 

[erod]

I've not had the opportunity to hear any of the legal experts talk about this. What is the prevailing opinion on a likely outcome (if there is one)?

Supposedly, federal courts aren't typically keen to re-hear arbitrator rulings because if they did, they'd be doing it constantly. You have to make a pretty compelling case to get one heard.

Judge Doty is the exception in Minnesota (and think the NFL limelight is why). He's known as labor-friendly, which is why the NFL beat Brady to the punch and took it to the courts in New York.

I think Brady's lawyers are woefully inept compared to the league's, but we'll see.

 

[LandryFan]

Supposedly, federal courts aren't typically keen to re-hear arbitrator rulings because if they did, they'd be doing it constantly. You have to make a pretty compelling case to get one heard.

Judge Doty is the exception in Minnesota (and think the NFL limelight is why). He's known as labor-friendly, which is why the NFL beat Brady to the punch and took it to the courts in New York.

I think Brady's lawyers are woefully inept compared to the league's, but we'll see.

Thanks for the info, Erod.

 

[ElGatoGrande]

I think there are some ticked off players out there that are loving this.

Well of course!

it bears repeating, this isn't the first time the Patriots have been caught cheating and they've been caught doing different things. It's a safe bet there are other methods and instances that remain undetected. It's one thing to be a cheater, and another thing to be the cheater who has been enjoying major success at your expense.

 

[5Stars]

I watched Kraft and Belichick talk to the media today and what they discussed afterwards.

They discussed that Kraft was real close to Goodell and went places together and what not....and Kraft thought that he had an agreement with the NFL to let Brady off the hook if they just pay a big fine. Well, that did not happen..Kraft kinda said they he was duped by the NFL.

So, that could become a riff between their relationships...

Belichick talked in monotone and did not say or answer anything about it.

I KNOW NOTHING....I know nothing....(i got to go...he won't even answer questions about his QB).

 

[Rogah]

His lawsuit will not be about guilt/innocence or investigations. It will be about how the NFL handles appeals. I certainly could be wrong, but given that the procedures that Goodell followed were given to him by the players via the CBA, I don't see how Brady prevails. JMO.

The basis of the appeal will be how wildly out of whack relative to precedent these punishments were.

Goodell himself already (quite weakly) tried to establish this incident was different from the one in Carolina-Minnesota. Goodell's lapdogs in this forum might buy it, but I doubt a federal judge will. The" crimes" are virtually identical: Tampering with a gameday football to make it easier to catch, throw, grip and handle.

 

[Rogah]

Supposedly, federal courts aren't typically keen to re-hear arbitrator rulings because if they did, they'd be doing it constantly. You have to make a pretty compelling case to get one heard.

Judge Doty is the exception in Minnesota (and think the NFL limelight is why). He's known as labor-friendly, which is why the NFL beat Brady to the punch and took it to the courts in New York.

I think Brady's lawyers are woefully inept compared to the league's, but we'll see.

You mean the league that loses in court time and time again? Have they ever actually won anything in court against the NFLPA?

By the way, the league's lawyers are so woefully inept that they had to refile the lawsuit today because they forgot to sign the paperwork yesterday.

 

[erod]

You mean the league that loses in court time and time again? Have they ever actually won anything in court against the NFLPA?

By the way, the league's lawyers are so woefully inept that they had to refile the lawsuit today because they forgot to sign the paperwork yesterday.

Sorry, I can't read that. Tom Brady broke my phone.

 

[5Stars]

And while all this is going on...Jerry is making money. Paying for his team.