ESPND: Romo gets it done late more often than not

[KJJ]

See no one can really argue with this because you chose the right games to base your opinion on. Sure someone can argue it is a team sport, and that's the opinion I will hold, but steer away from the "spotlighted" games argument where you include a season opener versus the Jets a few years ago or losing a SNF or MNF game because those games mean just as much as the vikings game last week where he did bring the team back to win.

No one can argue with it because I'm choosing the games that QB's are judged off of. It's the games that have your season riding on them that separate the great QB's from the rest. Football is a team sport but no player on a football team influences the outcome of games more than a QB which is why they receive a lot of credit for wins and a lot of the blame for losses. The season opener vs the Jets in 2011 was a nationally televised "spotlighted" game for a very significant reason because it was held in NYC on the 10th anniversary of 911. The NFL picked the Cowboys to be part of that game as the entire nation remembered the tragic events of that day 10 years earlier. You actually want to argue that game wasn't a "spotlighted" game?

 

[Bay10]

I just don't know know what I would do without some media morons opinion of the qb I have watched play every game for seven years. I'm tired of these folks trying to tell me about my team and it's players.

 

[KJJ]

I just don't know know what I would do without some media morons opinion of the qb I have watched play every game for seven years. I'm tired of these folks trying to tell me about my team and it's players.

Why because you don't like hearing candid, objective views about your team?

 

[Bay10]

Why because you don't like hearing candid, objective views about your team?

possibly

 

[CaptainCreed]

No one can argue with it because I'm choosing the games that QB's are judged off of. It's the games that have your season riding on them that separate the great QB's from the rest. Football is a team sport but no player on a football team influences the outcome of games more than a QB which is why they receive a lot of credit for wins and a lot of the blame for losses. The season opener vs the Jets in 2011 was a nationally televised "spotlighted" game for a very significant reason because it was held in NYC on the 10th anniversary of 911. The NFL picked the Cowboys to be part of that game as the entire nation remembered the tragic events of that day 10 years earlier. You actually want to argue that game wasn't a "spotlighted" game?

I was giving you credit man. Elimination games matter, 12 TOs is not cutting it. My point was in the past you have come up with a "spotlighted" games record when some of those W's or L's don't mean any more or less than a W against a then 1-7 vikings team or a L against Detroit. A game against the Jets on the anniversary of 9/11 or a SNF/MNF game is not more meaningful than any other regular season game or any more high pressure that would cause a QB or team to choke. A win is win and a loss is a loss. Elimination games are a different story.

 

[WV Cowboy]

I have been watching foootball since the late 50's early 60's.
I have watched Romo since I was at the Carolina game which was his first start.

I don't need convinced to make me think/know that Romo is a good NFL QB.
I don't need talking heads, or stats to make up my mind for me.

He is not our problem. If everyone played their position as well as Romo we would be fine.

I know what I see when I watch him.

After saying all of that, I am not opposed to getting a better QB if we can, ... but that is true of any position.

 

[iceberg]

i do wonder how many times romo has put us ahead and the D gave it right back up on the next drive.

 

[KJJ]

I was giving you credit man. Elimination games matter, 12 TOs is not cutting it. My point was in the past you have come up with a "spotlighted" games record when some of those W's or L's don't mean any more or less than a W against a then 1-7 vikings team or a L against Detroit. A game against the Jets on the anniversary of 9/11 or a SNF/MNF game is not more meaningful than any other regular season game or any more high pressure that would cause a QB or team to choke. A win is win and a loss is a loss. Elimination games are a different story.

The Jets game on Sept 11th 2011 commemorating the anniversary of the most tragic event in our nations history was a "spotlighted" game no matter how you want to cut it. They picked the Cowboys to be in that game because they're America's Team. That game had a meaning that far exceeded the game of football. A game doesn't have to have your season riding on it to be a "spotlighted" game. I don't pick every Sunday or Monday night game and proclaim them as "spotlighted" games. I mentioned the Denver game as being a "spotlighted" game because the Cowboys were going up against the hottest QB the game had ever seen up to that point.

It was a game the football world was anticipating due to Manning's and the Broncos start and it turned into a game of the ages which magnified Romo's turnover in the final couple of minutes. Elimination games are a different story and it's the repeated mistakes in those games especially the mistakes in the final minutes that's given Romo the negative reputation he has.

 

[DogFace]

Why because you don't like hearing candid, objective views about your team?

Intelligent fans can watch the body of work objectively and make judgements.
I do and I say he is one of the top
Qb s in the league. The statistics back that up. Was Dan Marino good? What were his elimination/big game stats?
There are better qb 's and if you can arrange they play for us go ahead. We will try that. Or just offer a reasonable realistic solution to not playing Romo since you are unhappy with his performance in big games.
Before you get Peyton remember his "big game" stats and record aren't great. Or are they?

 

[EPL0c0]

He'd one of the best and it's beyond me how his much fewer bad plays at the end get more attention.
Great post

the star on his helmet is why. If it was any other logo...nobody would really care and they'd focus on the positives.

 

[KJJ]

Intelligent fans can watch the body of work objectively and make judgements.
I do and I say he is one of the top
Qb s in the league. The statistics back that up. Was Dan Marino good? What were his elimination/big game stats?
There are better qb 's and if you can arrange they play for us go ahead. We will try that. Or just offer a reasonable realistic solution to not playing Romo since you are unhappy with his performance in big games.
Before you get Peyton remember his "big game" stats and record aren't great. Or are they?

FAN boards like this don't attract a lot of intelligent fans. FANS are swayed by their emotions they don't use their heads they post from the heart. Romo is one of the top QB's in the league and most in the media will tell you that but he also has his shortcomings that most Cowboy FANS can't seem to come to grips with. Romo's stats back up that he's an excellent regular season QB and they also back up that's he's not a very good postseason/elimination game QB. It's the contrast between his regular season performances and his elimination game performances that's given him the negative reputation he has. He's great until the season is down to do or die. There's a good Romo and a bad Romo. Marino was a great QB who's legacy was built much like Peyton Manning during the regular season.

Marino set NFL records during the regular season and held a number of all-time passing records at the time of his retirement. Peyton Manning is arguably the greatest regular season QB in history. He has a record 4 league MVP awards and is on pace for his 5th in 2013. Romo has peers who outproduce him every season in every category. He holds no official NFL passing records. He's a very good QB who needs some playoff wins and a championship to gain respect.

 

[KJJ]

i do wonder how many times romo has put us ahead and the D gave it right back up on the next drive.

Well fortunately 35 seconds wasn't enough time for our D to give it right back last week.

 

[Picksix]

Also, how many times has he put us in a position to win, but we missed a FG (like Balt last year), the kick got blocked (NYG 2 years ago), or the kicker was iced (we all know that one)?

 

[Mookie]

I have been watching foootball since the late 50's early 60's.
I have watched Romo since I was at the Carolina game which was his first start.

I don't need convinced to make me think/know that Romo is a good NFL QB.
I don't need talking heads, or stats to make up my mind for me.

He is not our problem. If everyone played their position as well as Romo we would be fine.

I know what I see when I watch him.

After saying all of that, I am not opposed to getting a better QB if we can, ... but that is true of any position.

Find a better QB than Romo. Romo is elite, numbers that could scratch Canton's front door. You say it like it's a good thing to find players with that level of talent. Romo's replacement is either a senior in HS or a freshman in college.

 

[WV Cowboy]

Find a better QB than Romo. Romo is elite, numbers that could scratch Canton's front door. You say it like it's a good thing to find players with that level of talent.

I don't see how it could be a bad thing.

 

[Mookie]

I don't see how it could be a bad thing.

I'm sorry right after I submitted that I meant to type;

You say it like it's an easy thing to find players with that level of talent.

 

[WV Cowboy]

I'm sorry right after I submitted that I meant to type;

You say it like it's an easy thing to find players with that level of talent.

Not at all.

Here is what I said, .. "After saying all of that, I am not opposed to getting a better QB if we can, ... but that is true of any position."

Not sure where I said it would be easy.

My point is, as much as I like Romo, and as good as I think he is, I am not "married" to any player, and am always willing to replace them with someone better if we can.

 

[Nova]

"Romo gets it done late more often than not."

No he doesn't. At least not with respect to 4th quarter comebacks or game winning drive attempts like the article implies.

But then again, there aren't many QBs that do. Usually it's a 50/50 chance with the BEST of them at the helm. Brady is the only one who has a considerably better chance than a coin filp.

 

[ufcrules1]

I'm sorry right after I submitted that I meant to type;

You say it like it's an easy thing to find players with that level of talent.

It's not easy but there have been some quality QB's come out of the last few drafts.

 

[Kevinicus]

"Romo gets it done late more often than not."

No he doesn't. At least not with respect to 4th quarter comebacks or game winning drive attempts like the article implies.

But then again, there aren't many QBs that do. Usually it's a 50/50 chance with the BEST of them at the helm. Brady is the only one who has a considerably better chance than a coin filp.

Do you have any facts to back that up? Especially the Brady part.