ESPND: Romo gets it done late more often than not

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I did another one for 4th qtr or OT, tied or trailing by 1-8 points. These are career numbers.

Rodgers 95.5
Romo 94.1
PManning 91.7
Brees 87.6
EManning 86.3
Brady 82.9

Interestingly, taking leads out of the sample did nothing to change the order of the rankings.

Percy Howard with another moonshot over the centerfield fence.
 

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The fact that Aaron Rodgers is 5-22 in 4th quarter comebacks / game-winning drives while at the same time having the highest regular season QB rating in the NFL history is as strange of a statistical oddity as you are every going to see. It defies logic.
We're talking about a stat that takes a team metric (W-L) and tries to apply it to an individual player. The Packers may be 5-22, but Rodgers has a 95.5 rating in those very situations (4th qtr or OT, 0-8 pt deficit).

It's another example of how wins and losses don't always depend on how one team's QB plays.
 

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Anything that doesn't shine a positive spotlight on Romo is nonsense to you. The ones who have yet to recognize that he has a few warts should be embarrassed.

He has plenty of warts...never once have I had a problem admitting that. Never. Not once.

But there's no need to manufacture new criteria just to drag him down. This "spotlight" game stuff is horse crap and you know it.
 

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I did another one for 4th qtr or OT, tied or trailing by 1-8 points. These are career numbers.

Rodgers 95.5
Romo 94.1
PManning 91.7
Brees 87.6
EManning 86.3
Brady 82.9

Interestingly, taking leads out of the sample did nothing to change the order of the rankings.
It's sitting right there staring some in the face, but they just chose to ignore it.

For some, I think it is honest, but the pain of some of the losses are so great they refuse to notice that it actually happens LESS with him than almost anyone else. Almost the opposite of the reputation. Others just are dishonest about and blinded by hate.
Both types are wrong

They have mostly wasted his career by not building better trenches on both sides of the ball.
 

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He has plenty of warts...never once have I had a problem admitting that. Never. Not once.

But there's no need to manufacture new criteria just to drag him down. This "spotlight" game stuff is horse crap and you know it.

Some here are so sensitive to the criticism Romo receives they think the term "elimination game" was created just to drag him down. Romo being ranked behind Eli, Rodgers, Brees, Brady and Peyton Manning is horse crap to some FANS here. What's dragging Romo down is his performances in do or die games. Those are "spotlighted" games.
 

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Some here are so sensitive to the criticism Romo receives they think the term "elimination game" was created just to drag him down. Romo being ranked behind Eli, Rodgers, Brees, Brady and Peyton Manning is horse crap to some FANS here. What's dragging Romo down is his performances in do or die games. Those are "spotlighted" games.

You forgot 1 of you game "classifications"

What about the "win or go home" games?
 

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I didn't read all the posts so forgive me it someone has already said this. But what is not shown it the above stats is all the 4th quarter comeback TD drives he's had that didn't result in a win because the defense promptly turned around and gave up the winning score to the other team in the final minutes or seconds of the game. He should have more than 10 if not for the defense folding.
 

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I'm waiting for some (or same) idiot to come up with a new classification.

There is this idiotic "spotlight game" so I'm sure it won't be long before The "Significant Spotlight" game designation will be made up.
 

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Why would you want to get rid of a player you liked? Let me ask you a question, if Jerry could construct human looking robots that would go out and kick tail and go 16-0, would you want that? You don't care who it is, as long as someone out there in Cowboys jerseys is winning?

Please don't tell me you "root for the laundry, not the players" because that is even stupider. The Cowboys are not a magical, noble organization to which people bestow magical allegiance. They are a business out to get your money. The only constant about this team is, and will always be, Jerry. If you root for the Cowboys and not the players, then all you are doing is rooting for the one guy most people want to get rid of the most.

Like has nothing to do with it. As a fan, I don't have to like the any of these players. I want players that wins games. These players leave the second they think they can get a bigger payday. That is no problem, because I don't mind seeing them replaced . I have no emotional attachment to any of these players. I have nothing for Jerry either. I am much more a fan of what the Cowboys used to be than what they have become.
 

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There's not a Cowboys fan who doesn't recognize the warts. Then there's you... obsessed with the warts.

His warts show up at the worst possible time in the most critical games. Big game pressure brings out his warts.
 

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I still think of him as the guy who has lead us to wins from late deficits as he has so many times, just as he did last week. I don't even get the choker stuff. Sure, he's not going to win in every one of those situations, but neither is anyone else.
 

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I haven't been critical of Romo as of late because he's been playing really well (although Washington of last year has caused me to lose a little faith in him).

But I don't think KJJ is trying to create a new stat.

Romo has engineered 20 game winning drives. However, a bulk majority of those games was not seen in the "national spotlight" which is what KJJ may be refering to. For example, the game winning drive against Minnesota last week. That wasn't a nationally televised game, therefore the public and their perception cannot be swayed because it didn't happen [since they are unaware]. But if Romo has a game winning drive tonight, in primetime when everyone is watching, their perception has the ability to change, although I don't think it will just because of how he's already perceived.

So if Romo were to throw a "gut wrenching pick" or whatever you want to call it tonight, the nationally perception is reinforced because it was a game everyone saw. People will reference the Minnesota game rightfully so but its irrelevant to some because not everyone saw that game.

The game in Washington last year really hurt Romo's perception, whether its fair or not. I was in Sao Paulo Brazil that weekend and the game was nationally televised in Brazil which is UNHEARD OF. Romo threw a pick to seal the game and all the brazilians down there think he's a choke artist now (had a difficult time defending Romo in Portuguese to my girl). They aren't aware of his 20 game winning drives because none of those were nationally televised.

Do I think its fair? Of course not. But I think I see where KJJ is coming from.
 

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Some games attract a bigger audience than other games any intelligent fan knows that. Not every Sunday or Monday Night game is going to attract as big an audience as some. I mentioned the Jets game in 2011 as being a "spotlighted" game because that game was held in NYC on the 10th anniversary of 911. That game attracted a bigger audience than for a normal opening day game or Sunday Night game. It was a game that exceeded the game of football and the NFL picked the Cowboys to be part of that game because they're America's Team. I called the Denver game at "spotlighted" game because it was a game anticipated by many fans due to Peyton Manning's unbelievable start and how unstoppable Denver looked. It was a game that had shootout written all over it and I predicted a shootout prior to the game and even mentioned that Norm Van Broclin's 62 year old record of 554 passing yards could be in jeopardy. Romo had an opportunity to break that record and win the game in the process. By the time Romo threw the pick in the final 2 minutes the entire football country was glued to their sets watching that game. It's the games that everyone is focused on that Romo has had the greatest difficulty coming through in. Last weeks game vs Minn didn't attract a huge audience but it's the games vs weak opponents that Romo has come trough in.

In 07 he had another great comeback win in the final moments vs a 2 win Detroit team. It was another game that didn't attract a big audience. He had a great comeback vs SF in 2011 in week #2 but again it was a game that didn't attract a big audience. SF hadn't yet become the great team they did later that season. It's the elimination games and the marquee regular season games that Romo folds in. It's the games that draw the biggest audiences. Everyone was watching the Sunday night game in week 17 last season. It was the only game going and it had a playoff birth on the line. Romo ended up having his worst game of the season charting a 55.9 passer rating. It doesn't take a genius to know what games I'm referring to with Romo all it takes is an objective fan who understands there's certain games QB's are judged by. It's the "spotlighted" games that draw the biggest audiences and have the most riding on them that have given Romo the stigma he has.
 

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So Romo somehow during the game finds out the audience ratings and when the ratings are the highest he feels more pressure and thats when he crumbles the worst? Hence, these are the "spotlighted" games? O . . . . . . . . . K . . . . . . . . . . . Gotcha
 

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So Romo somehow during the game finds out the audience ratings and when the ratings are the highest he feels more pressure and thats when he crumbles the worst? Hence, these are the "spotlighted" games? O . . . . . . . . . K . . . . . . . . . . . Gotcha

It is the stupidest thing I have heard and that is saying something.
 

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So Romo somehow during the game finds out the audience ratings and when the ratings are the highest he feels more pressure and thats when he crumbles the worst? Hence, these are the "spotlighted" games? O . . . . . . . . . K . . . . . . . . . . . Gotcha

You continue to show just how lost you really are. Just another ridiculous spin.
 

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Because of the up-and-down nature of Tony Romo's last few seasons, here's a stat that may get overlooked.

Romo has 10 game-winning drives in fourth quarter or overtime since the start of the 2011 season, tied for the most in the NFL over that span.

Most Game-Winning Drives
In 4th Qtr/OT Since 2011

Tony Romo Cowboys 10
Andrew Luck Colts 10
Matthew Stafford Lions 10
Andy Dalton Bengals 9
Matt Ryan Falcons 9
Eli Manning Giants 9
Here's a brief recap of each one:

September 18, 2011 (Week 2) at 49ers
Cowboys overcome 10-point fourth-quarter deficit

The Cowboys overcame a 24-14 fourth-quarter deficit in San Francisco to beat the 49ers 27-24 in overtime. Romo threw a 77-yard pass to wide receiver Jesse Holley on the Cowboys first play in overtime to set Dallas up for the chip-shot field goal.

September 26, 2011 (Week 3) vs Commanders
Romo’s long pass sparks win

A week later, Romo was at it again. He completed a 30-yard pass to Dez Bryant on third and 21 with the Cowboys at their own 30, trailing by one point and 2:20 left in the fourth quarter. Dallas went on to win 18-16 after a Dan Bailey 40-yard field goal.

November 20, 2011 (Week 11) at Commanders
Romo beats Commanders again in similar fashion

Romo broke the Commanders hearts again, this time in overtime as he completed a 26-yard pass to Dez Bryant on 3rd and 15 near midfield. The Cowboys won 27-24 on a Bailey field goal three plays later.

November 24, 2011 (Week 12) vs Dolphins
Cowboys win as time expires on Thanksgiving

Four days later, Romo instrumented his fourth game-winning drive of the season. He led the Cowboys down the field on a 10-play, 54-yard drive and Dallas won 20-19 on a Bailey field goal as time expired.

Highest Total QBR, 4th Quarter/OT,
Score Margin -8 to 8 points
Since 2011

Andrew Luck 84.4
Aaron Rodgers 78.9
Drew Brees 73.1
Tony Romo 71.4
October 21, 2012 (Week 7) at Panthers
Romo’s first of five game-winning drives in 2012

Romo led the Cowboys past the Panthers 19-14 with his first of five game-winning drives in 2012. Romo engineered a short drive that ended with a Bailey field goal with 3:28 left in the fourth quarter to push Dallas ahead.

November 18, 2012 (Week 11) vs Browns
Cowboys survive in overtime

Romo survived seven sacks in the game to lead the Cowboys on a fourth-quarter comeback after trailing 13-3 entering the quarter. He led a drive to tie the game at 20 with six seconds left. They went on to win 23-20 against the Browns in overtime. A key play was a 28-yard touchdown pass to Bryant erasing that 10-point lead in the fourth quarter.

December 2, 2012 (Week 13) vs Eagles
Romo posts 95.5 Total QBR in comeback win

Romo threw two fourth-quarter touchdowns and posted a 95.5 Total QBR as the Cowboys scored 21 fourth-quarter points in a 38-33 win. Romo threw another key pass to Bryant, a go-ahead 6-yard touchdown with 5:40 left to put the Cowboys up for good.

December 9, 2012 (Week 14) at Bengals
Cowboys overcome nine-point fourth-quarter deficit

A week later, Romo led the Cowboys past the Bengals overcoming a 9-point deficit in the fourth quarter. This included a 27-yard touchdown pass to Bryant with 6:44 left and a 13-play, 50-yard drive resulting in a Bailey game-winning 40-yard field goal as time expired (Cowboys win 20-19).

December 16, 2012 (Week 15) vs Steelers
Romo’s third straight game-winning drive in the fourth quarter/overtime

Romo engineered his third game-winning drive in as many weeks with a 27-24 overtime win against the Steelers. It wasn’t much of a drive as Ben Roethlisberger threw a pass picked off by Brandon Carr, Romo kneeled down on Dallas’ first play and Bailey kicked a 21-yard field goal to win.

November 3, 2013 (Week 9) vs Vikings
Romo throws go-ahead TD with 42 seconds left

And last Sunday Romo went from goat to hero in one quarter. His fourth-quarter interception with 4:35 left dropped the Cowboys’ win probability to 21.4 percent. But he got a second chance and engineered a nine-play, 90-yard drive to put the Cowboys ahead of the Vikings with 42 seconds left, including a key 34-yard pass to Bryant.

Romo will look to work the same magic against the Saints this Sunday that almost gave the Cowboys a miracle comeback win last season against New Orleans. The Cowboys trailed 31-17 with 4:45 left in the fourth quarter when Romo led two quick touchdown drives (1:10 and 1:14) to send the game to overtime. This included a 19-yard touchdown pass to Miles Austin on 4th and 10 with 21 seconds left. Dallas went on to lose 34-31 in overtime.

For the rest---> http://espn.go.com/blog/statsinfo/post/_/id/77534/romo-gets-it-done-late-more-often-than-not


Thanks for the info, copied and pasted for Romo haters :)...appreciate the effort. Still think something is bugging him injury wise tbh.
 
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