ESPN's Adam Schefter : Chance Warmack could be in for a draft-day mini-slide

[Avery]

If Cooper/Richardson were the pick over Warmack, I would find that acceptable. Vacarro, not so much, but I won't throw anything.

Warmack is as can't miss as anyone in this draft.

 

[Zimmy Lives]

i agree that if the cowboys value him highly, they may have to it at 18
i was thinking more about (if the big 3 are gone) trading down to mid 20s and taking someone like sly williams and pick up a third and then use our rd 2 or 3 pick to address safety

but, if we really think that vacarro is head and shoulders better than the other safeties, and if he is there at 18, we will want to take him there

I like the idea of a trade down (for Williams) as well but I do think Vaccaro is the BPA on the board at 18 if the others are gone. They have to take him.

The extra picks would be awfully enticing, though!

 

[Vintage]

Impossible. All of our professional youtube scouts here insist he is the guardiest guard prospect in quite some time.

No way he slips and is available when we pick.

 

[DFWJC]

Only TWO times in the past 20 YEARS has just ONE guard gone in the top 15.

beat me to it.

 

[jobberone]

Not sure either Cooper or Warmack will be gone. I think Cooper is a better choice but Warmack likely won't disappoint. He's likely to be less mobile for screens yada. After that I'd wait until the middle rounds. Armstead is thought to be able to play OT and G. Hugh, Thomas and Jones can play multiple spots with Jones able to play C.

I'm warming to Vacarro.

 

[ElGatoGrande]

I'm warming to Vacarro.

He'll be gone too,,, but I'm betting on an excellent corner or wide receiver being available

 

[Manwiththeplan]

Not only would it be rare for 2 guards to go before 18, it's also rare for a guard shorter than 6'3 to go in the first round at all (both players are 6'2).

2012: David DeCastro (6'5), Kevin Zeitler (6'4)
2011: Mike Pouncey (6'5 center/guard), Danny Watkins (6'3)
2010: Mike Iupati (6'5 center), Maurkice Pouncey (6'4)
2009: Alex Mack (6'4 center), Eric Wood (6'4 center)
2008: none
2007: Ben Grubbs (6'3)
2006: Davin Joseph (6'3)
2005: Chris Spencer (6'3), Logan Mankins (6'4)
2004: Vernon Carey (6'5)

I could go on, before I was searching for a 6'2 guard who went in round 1, but went all the way back to 91' and couldn't find one. So I'm doubtfull that 2 go before 18.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Warmack especially doesn't have good measurables. He is not very athletic. He doesn't beat may DT one on one either. They talk about system WR, I think Warmack is a system OG. He may very well be the most over-hyped prospect ever.

 

[9darter]

A bold prediction: Jerry won't draft Warmack.

That first rounder will be defense or a tackle.

Warmack is going to slide because guys like Jerry are not willing to draft him high.

 

[xwalker]

Warmack especially doesn't have good measurables. He is not very athletic. He doesn't beat may DT one on one either. They talk about system WR, I think Warmack is a system OG. He may very well be the most over-hyped prospect ever.

He is a bit over-hyped.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

He is a bit over-hyped.

I have heard hyperbole about him being the best prospect this year but that is mostly an outlier. I do see 5th rated prospect thrown around a lot.

 

[burmafrd]

Warmack especially doesn't have good measurables. He is not very athletic. He doesn't beat may DT one on one either. They talk about system WR, I think Warmack is a system OG. He may very well be the most over-hyped prospect ever.

yawn.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

yawn.

thanks, hypester. you not agreeing with me is vindication so keep up with your dismissal.

 

[RS12]

A bold prediction: Jerry won't draft Warmack.

That first rounder will be defense or a tackle.

Warmack is going to slide because guys like Jerry are not willing to draft him high.

I dont think that is bold at all. Based on what I see on the roster it should be defense.

 

[Wood]

Citing "whispers around the league," ESPN's Adam Schefter hinted on his blog that Alabama OG Chance Warmack could be in for a draft-day mini-slide.


Schefter believes it "wouldn't be completely shocking" if Warmack were available at the Cowboys' No. 18 overall selection. Warmack is a lock first-rounder, but keep in mind many pegged David DeCastro as a top 10-15 pick last April and he lasted to the Steelers' pick at 24. Guard is not a coveted NFL position

http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/8418/chance-warmack

he might be best player in draft. I would be astonished...fall out of my chair...if he was still on board at 18.

 

[Manwiththeplan]

I know this draft lacks top end talent....but Chance Warmack will not be the best player from this draft.

 

[Risen Star]

I'd take Warmack 1st overall. Without any hesitation. He's the best player in this class.

 

[Manwiththeplan]

I'd take Warmack 1st overall. Without any hesitation. He's the best player in this class.

I honestly don't know who I'd take number 1. Likely either Fisher or Joeckel, maybe Sharrif Floyd, but there aren't too many drafts where you look back and say a guard was the top player drafted.

And Warmack is hardly a once in a generation guard. Below averge size and athleticism are definately red flags. All in all, I think he'll be a long time starter for someone, but will never make a pro-bowl.

 

[jnday]

I honestly don't know who I'd take number 1. Likely either Fisher or Joeckel, maybe Sharrif Floyd, but there aren't too many drafts where you look back and say a guard was the top player drafted.

And Warmack is hardly a once in a generation guard. Below averge size and athleticism are definately red flags. All in all, I think he'll be a long time starter for someone, but will never make a pro-bowl.

I don't see Warmack being below average in size or athletic ability. He may not be the biggest or the most athletic, but that doesn't equal to below average. He is a smash-mouth power guard that plays with an attitude.

 

[Manwiththeplan]

I don't see Warmack being below average in size or athletic ability. He may not be the biggest or the most athletic, but that doesn't equal to below average. He is a smash-mouth power guard that plays with an attitude.

6'2 is below averege height for a guard. athleticism, you're right, less than ideal, but not below average.