Even Considering Drafting Jeanty is Insane

[baltcowboy]

Argument against, if you have a strong OL or strong rushing scheme, drafting a high rb could pay huge dividends. We saw Zeke get drafted when we had an elite line and he lead us to the #1 seed with a rookie QB and a below average defense. Cleary, Cowboys do not have an elite OL or scheme.

The counter-argument Jeanty plays with a poor OL at Boise, he can make an average line look far more better then they actually are.

I am not opposed to taking a 1st rd rb if he is the best player on your board. They had Dalvin Cook rated higher then Taco and drafted for need.

What happens if he becomes the next Sanders, LT or Peterson, you would make the same mistake the Packers did when they passed on Barry?

Remember the poster is an Eagles fan. The last thing he wants is the Cowboys to add an elite talent.

 

[rambo2]

Devin Neal instead please. Mid round pick and the guy will play for 10 years.

I'll take the under 10 years.

 

[Aerolithe_Lion]

Argument against, if you have a strong OL or strong rushing scheme, drafting a high rb could pay huge dividends. We saw Zeke get drafted when we had an elite line and he lead us to the #1 seed with a rookie QB and a below average defense. Cleary, Cowboys do not have an elite OL or scheme.

The counter-argument Jeanty plays with a poor OL at Boise, he can make an average line look far more better then they actually are.

I am not opposed to taking a 1st rd rb if he is the best player on your board. They had Dalvin Cook rated higher then Taco and drafted for need.

What happens if he becomes the next Sanders, LT or Peterson, you would make the same mistake the Packers did when they passed on Barry?

Jeanty can make an average line look better, yes, but the average line will still sink your team. At that point you’re drafting for fantasy football stats over team success. How did the team that took Barry work out for team success? How did the Packers passing on Barry prevent their team success? Same question with AP, he put up tremendous stats in MIN, but how did they really benefit from that? He made the wild card round… 3 times his entire career? Divisional round once?

The impact a RB upgrade has on the overall team pales in comparison to lineman.

 

[Aerolithe_Lion]

Eagles with Barkley. I think the deal is that Jeanty could very well be the bpa when Dallas is on the board.

The difference is the eagles already had an all-pro line and were ready to contend at all other positions. Also, they didn’t burn draft capital on Barkley. Even if you had your 2016 line, it’s still a bad idea. Get a mid round RB and pair him with a moderately priced FA and you’ll see the same or better team impact than burning a top pick.

 

[rambo2]

The difference is the eagles already had an all-pro line and were ready to contend at all other positions. Also, they didn’t burn draft capital on Barkley. Even if you had your 2016 line, it’s still a bad idea. Get a mid round RB and pair him with a moderately priced FA and you’ll see the same or better team impact than burning a top pick.

The deal with that will be is Jeanty better than the olinemen on the board. I think Jeanty is better. It would come down to is Jeanty better than the dtackles on the board like maybe Kenneth Grant. I could go either way with that one. I'd be ok with going with Grant and taking a running back in the 2nd or 3rd.

 

[Aerolithe_Lion]

The deal with that will be is Jeanty better than the olinemen on the board. I think Jeanty is better. It would come down to is Jeanty better than the dtackles on the board like maybe Kenneth Grant. I could go either way with that one. I'd be ok with going with Grant and taking a running back in the 2nd or 3rd.

The issue though is positional value.

Aubrey is better at kicking than CeeDee Lamb is at receiving, even though CD is a fantastic receiver. But does Aubrey make your team better than CeeDee? Of course not.

A good RT makes your team better than a superstar RB. If that wasn’t true then Saquon and CMC would be making 30m$, but they’re not because it is true.

You’re wanting to take the better play, yes, but he is the inferior roster upgrade. That’s the argument I’m making. A new tackle so you can dump Steele, a new DT, or Tank’s successor will make Dallas a better football team than a top 15 RB.

 

[rambo2]

The issue though is positional value.

Aubrey is better at kicking than CeeDee Lamb is at receiving, even though CD is a fantastic receiver. But does Aubrey make your team better than CeeDee? Of course not.

A good RT makes your team better than a superstar RB. If that wasn’t true then Saquon and CMC would be making 30m$, but they’re not because it is true.

You’re wanting to take the better play, yes, but he is the inferior roster upgrade. That’s the argument I’m making. A new tackle so you can dump Steele, a new DT, or Tank’s successor will make Dallas a better football team than a top 15 RB.

Another thing is that they can possibly get an olineman in free agency this time.

 

[cnuball21]

Going into the offseason the Cowboys where a better team then the Eagles. So yeah a Jeanty type player would make our line look better than it is. Dak is a better quarterback than Hurts so Jeanty would not be keyed on. The Cowboys offensive line was hot garbage in the early 90s until Emmitt came along. One player in the draft can change things like Parsons did for the Cowboys in 2021.

Going into the offseason maybe…what about going into the regular season?

Eagles had a better roster by a landslide.

Jeanty is a stud but he’s a luxury pick. Great RBs don’t make bad rosters great but they do make great rosters better.

Saquon did not turn around the Giants franchise, but yes, hes playing great in Philly partially bc of the great roster and OL. Keep in mind Philly went to the Super Bowl with a league average RB.

 

[baltcowboy]

Going into the offseason maybe…what about going into the regular season?

Eagles had a better roster by a landslide.

Jeanty is a stud but he’s a luxury pick. Great RBs don’t make bad rosters great but they do make great rosters better.

Saquon did not turn around the Giants franchise, but yes, hes playing great in Philly partially bc of the great roster and OL. Keep in mind Philly went to the Super Bowl with a league average RB.

I am in favor of taking the best player on the board even if it is Jeanty, a running back, because Rico/Zeke/Duece is a below average running back room that no one feels threatened by. The Cowboys offense becomes lethal again with another big play talent with CeeDee.

 

[cnuball21]

I am in favor of taking the best player on the board even if it is Jeanty, a running back, because Rico/Zeke/Duece is a below average running back room that no one feels threatened by. The Cowboys offense becomes lethal again with another big play talent with CeeDee.

The opportunity cost is missing out on a player that should become a quality starter at a more valuable position while still being able to get an above average RB a round or 2 later.

Going the opposite route is much less likely to have the same impact.

 

[MikeT22]

Jeanty would be out of the league in 8 years, and you’d be fortunate to get more than a few dominant seasons out of him. Giants got 1 out of Saquon. Dallas got 3 out of Zeke and that was a huge success. Lions may never get one out of Gibbs if they keep using him in a committee. Bijan may finish with around 1200 yards this year… is that a dominant season with a 17 game schedule? 8th overall dominant?

First, with Barkley and McCaffery, yes they didn't provide enough to make a major difference with the Giants or Panthers. But even at this point in their careers McCaffery has been a vital piece to the 49ers getting to the SB and NFCC game the last 2 years. Barkley is now killing it with the Eagles.

I'm not on board with taking a RB in the top 10. But I'm also not a 'never taking a back in the first' guy either. I would definitely take a Barkley, McCaffery, Bijon, etc in the teens though. Question will be, is Jeanty of that caliber? Also is, will Jeanty in Dallas be on par with Barkley and McCaffery with NYG's and Panthers.

As for Jeanty being out of the league in 8 years, I'd actually take that for a RB. I think Vander Esch lasted 7 years. Taco was a bust. Got a whole 3.5 years out of the 1st we used on Amari Cooper. So 5-6 dominant years and 8 overall would be pretty good.

That said I would much rather go DT or DE in the first. Also this is billed as a deep RB draft, so there should be several quality RB's in the 2-3 rounds. But yeah, typical Jerry will totally ignore a position til it's a major issue and then overreact to try and correct it. But if we end up winning 6-7 games and pick somewhere between 12-16, I wouldn't be opposed to Jeanty depending on who is on the board at the time.

 

[Risen Star]

He's an Eagles puke. Disregard.

 

[big dog cowboy]

Devin Neal instead please. Mid round pick

There are 3-4 mid-round RB's that would fit the bill in Dallas.

 

[RonWashington]

Let’s stop with the WR RB TE talk early round. This draft has to feature Defensive Starters to help get this team further to go in have a chance against the Lions Chiefs Eagles Ravens offenses of this modern day NFL light it up league .

Dylan Sampson round three to pair with Dowdle and Leupke is your battering Ram .

 

[NDGAEDE]

I don't think this team can turn its nose up on the best player available at their pick, regardless of their position.

If it's Jeanty, take him. If it's a DT, take him. If it's a G a T a LB a S, take him. We have too many holes to try and plot the best value. We simply need better players everywhere. There really isn't one position on this team that couldn't benefit from adding a top prospect.

This team fails when it gets too cute and tries to maximize value instead of just taking the best football player. Take the Lions approach where they drafted Gibbs, LaPorta, Branch--and take the best player.

 

[cnuball21]

Let’s stop with the WR RB TE talk early round. This draft has to feature Defensive Starters to help get this team further to go in have a chance against the Lions Chiefs Eagles Ravens offenses of this modern day NFL light it up league .

Dylan Sampson round three to pair with Dowdle and Leupke is your battering Ram .

If we don’t sign a WR we better keep talking about drafting one early. Not having a legit 2nd weapon has absolutely killed us in the playoffs the last few years.

I’m with you about doing everything we can to fix this defense but if we continue to ignore WR we’ll continue to not be a serious contender.

 

[Whyjerry]

DL needs to be the priority

 

[cnuball21]

I don't think this team can turn its nose up on the best player available at their pick, regardless of their position.

If it's Jeanty, take him. If it's a DT, take him. If it's a G a T a LB a S, take him. We have too many holes to try and plot the best value. We simply need better players everywhere. There really isn't one position on this team that couldn't benefit from adding a top prospect.

This team fails when it gets too cute and tries to maximize value instead of just taking the best football player. Take the Lions approach where they drafted Gibbs, LaPorta, Branch--and take the best player.

If we had the Lions OL, were picking towards the end of the 1st and Jeanty was the WR weapon that Gibbs is it’d be a different discussion.

 

[RonWashington]

If we don’t sign a WR we better keep talking about drafting one early. Not having a legit 2nd weapon has absolutely killed us in the playoffs the last few years.

I’m with you about doing everything we can to fix this defense but if we continue to ignore WR we’ll continue to not be a serious contender.

My goodness look at Brooks catching passes downfield from Rush . Flournoy never targeted Mingo cost a 4th rounder and Tolbert has become a Randall Cobb type who catches balls in the end zone . How many WR can Dallas collect and hardly use ?

 

[cnuball21]

My goodness look at Brooks catching passes downfield from Rush . Flournoy never targeted Mingo cost a 4th rounder and Tolbert has become a Randall Cobb type who catches balls in the end zone . How many WR can Dallas collect and hardly use ?

Everyone you listed is terrible…these guys wouldn’t even be a WR3 on a contending roster.

We need an impact player drafted early or signed in FA not a late rounder or undrafted FA.