Even Considering Drafting Jeanty is Insane

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Playmaker’s at running back are not easy to find. You have three CMC, Henry, and Barkley. They are getting older. Next season Jeanty could be on there level or better. The kid is 21 years old.

i don't agree there's only three, and whatever criteria you're applying is not what I responded to. and none of the three you listed have won anything.

 

[baltcowboy]

i don't agree there's only three, and whatever criteria you're applying is not what I responded to. and none of the three you listed have won anything.

What are you talking about? King Henry single handily took the Tennessee Titans to AFC championship game. CMC led the 49ers to at least the NFC Championship game since has been in San Francisco. Barkley has transformed the Eagles to serious Super Bowl threats. That is what I am talking about. Jeanty might do the same for the Cowboys.

 

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What are you talking about? King Henry single handily took the Tennessee Titans to AFC championship game. CMC led the 49ers to at least the NFC Championship game since has been in San Francisco. Barkley has transformed the Eagles to serious Super Bowl threats. That is what I am talking about. Jeanty might do the same for the Cowboys.

and won nothing. titans had aj brown and tannehil playing out of his mind. eagles have done similarly w/ out saquon previously, and jordan mason was like 2nd in the league in rushing in mccaffreys absence. not to mention dallas could have acquired any of them, which is kind of the point.

jeanty could have a significant impact on the cowboys, so could a number of rb's, and a number of other players. i'd rather try my hand at multiple of the latter.

 

[NDGAEDE]

sure just give dallas 4 picks in the first 2 rounds and they can do just that. aside from the massive discrepancy in tds ferguson and la porta have strikingly similar production and that's with ferg out the past two games.

They were panned for most of those picks because of the 'value'. The point is that we have so many holes, that you take the best guy availavle regardless of whether the positional value is perfect or not.

 

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They were panned for most of those picks because of the 'value'. The point is that we have so many holes, that you take the best guy availavle regardless of whether the positional value is perfect or not.

i would typically agree, except for a rb in a deep rb class and the state of our team overall. detroit just wasn't a good comparison to our situation imo.

 

[Adiba1977]

We need Jeanty. Where can draft him. Teens??

 

[NDGAEDE]

i would typically agree, except for a rb in a deep rb class and the state of our team overall. detroit just wasn't a good comparison to our situation imo.

Makes sense. Personally, I'd rather us invest in a DE, DT than a RB, but I don't think it's as cut and dry as 'no DB in rd one no matter what'.

 

[McKDaddy]

Take the Lions approach where they drafted Gibbs, LaPorta, Branch--and take the best player.

But the Lions had already committed the resources to fix the trenches. These picks were "we have the foundation & QB now we are weaponizing & upgrading from average players" stage of team building.

 

[McKDaddy]

If we had the Lions OL, were picking towards the end of the 1st and Jeanty was the WR weapon that Gibbs is it’d be a different discussion.

absolutely. they were looking for difference makers at that point. a year earlier & they don't make that pick.

 

[cnuball21]

Playmaker’s at running back are not easy to find. You have three CMC, Henry, and Barkley. They are getting older. Next season Jeanty could be on there level or better. The kid is 21 years old.

How many of those guys have rings or have been the reason their team got to the Super Bowl?

Go look at the RBs on the recent Super Bowl winning teams. You’ll be surprised.

 

[TheCoolFan]

Don't make the same mistake from 2016 with drafting Zeke. Having a good RB is important but there are more ways to find one than using a 1st round pick in a DEEP RB draft. There is a good chance that they can find a player anywhere from round 2-4 who can become a 1200 yard rusher and do exactly what they need for this team to succeed (ex: DeMarco Murray)

 

[baltcowboy]

How many of those guys have rings or have been the reason their team got to the Super Bowl?

Go look at the RBs on the recent Super Bowl winning teams. You’ll be surprised.

CMC and Henry lost to the eventual Super Bowl champs. I mean how close can you get. I could make the argument that the Cowboys beat the 49ers if we had a stud running back the last two times they beat us in the playoffs.

 

[cnuball21]

CMC and Henry lost to the eventual Super Bowl champs. I mean how close can you get. I could make the argument that the Cowboys beat the 49ers if we had a stud running back the last two times they beat us in the playoffs.

Sure…and Tanny was playing at an all pro level with AJ Brown and CMC had an MVP QB in Newton with an elite defense.

Zeke was a stud RB in our first game against the 49ers playoff L and he was awful.

 

[baltcowboy]

Sure…and Tanny was playing at an all pro level with AJ Brown and CMC had an MVP QB in Newton with an elite defense.

Zeke was a stud RB in our first game against the 49ers playoff L and he was awful.

I live in Raven country. No one was worried about Tanny or Brown during their playoff loss to Tennessee. It was King Henry. Newton was never the guy after that Super Bowl loss. The defense was not great either. Zeke and stud left the building after he was extended in 2019.

 

[cnuball21]

I live in Raven country. No one was worried about Tanny or Brown during their playoff loss to Tennessee. It was King Henry. Newton was never the guy after that Super Bowl loss. The defense was not great either. Zeke and stud left the building after he was extended in 2019.

Agree to disagree

 

[NDGAEDE]

But the Lions had already committed the resources to fix the trenches. These picks were "we have the foundation & QB now we are weaponizing & upgrading from average players" stage of team building.

Kneeland, Mazi, Beebe, Guyton

We've committed too. Lesser.player because of our positions, but we can't draft oline forever.

Again, my preference is to throw picks at DT and DE and LB, but believe we should keep all options open when we're on the clock.

 

[McKDaddy]

Kneeland, Mazi, Beebe, Guyton

We've committed too. Lesser.player because of our positions, but we can't draft oline forever.

Again, my preference is to throw picks at DT and DE and LB, but believe we should keep all options open when we're on the clock.

Certainly on the Oline we have. On D, it's mostly been ends and afterthoughts for the middle until Mazi. And Mazi hasn't shown anyone he was worthy of the investment yet.

Worthy DT & LB would be outstanding. Let them be getting into their prime by the time you can get rid of the anchor.

 

[Aerolithe_Lion]

What are you talking about? King Henry single handily took the Tennessee Titans to AFC championship game. CMC led the 49ers to at least the NFC Championship game since has been in San Francisco. Barkley has transformed the Eagles to serious Super Bowl threats. That is what I am talking about. Jeanty might do the same for the Cowboys.

And not one of those teams made the mistake of burning first round draft capital to get that

 

[baltcowboy]

And not one of those teams made the mistake of burning first round draft capital to get that

Yeah but each team paid a boatload of money for the backs. Salary cap room is just as important. I bet you can’t remember without looking up the 1st round pick Tennessee drafted instead of Henry. You take the best player on the board. Jeanty is “Him”.

 

[cnuball21]

Yeah but each team paid a boatload of money for the backs. Salary cap room is just as important. I bet you can’t remember without looking up the 1st round pick Tennessee drafted instead of Henry. You take the best player on the board. Jeanty is “Him”.

But your almost making the argument for him…The Eagles have rookie contracts at premium positions…DT, CB x 2 etc…
Ravens stud CB is on a rookie contract and so is their best WR.

They were in a position to pay the RBs bc they cost half as much as FAs at the positions I’ve listed above.

We’re not even close to being in the same position as those teams.