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[Bob Sacamano]

You really think Adams is a better run blocker then Samuels?

backs seem to do better running to his side, no matter the man lining up next to him at LG

 

[TunaFan33]

You really think Adams is a better run blocker then Samuels?

As bad as Torren Tucker was, when Flo went down, I nonetheless noticed our run game on the left side improved. As bad as Torren was pass blocking, he was an excellent run blocker.

Too bad Tuna not only failed to utilize him well(his natural position is at Guard), but he also shot his confidences to pieces.(After giving up 4 sacks to Phil Daniels, he reportedly broke down and cried in the locker room afterwards)

With that being said-I'm happy with Adams-don't care how better or worse he is that others, but he makes our overall O click well.

 

[skinsfunguy]

Art told them they have the best line in the league ...... so they believe it.

For the last time, I am NOT a homer. Go look up my posts at extremeskins, my handle is funguy1286. You will see i am VERY critical of my team, to the point where some people say I'm not even a fan of the team. I am a 100% realist when it comes to the Commanders. You will also see that I gave the Cowboys there due this preseason.

I am aware there are A LOT of problems with my organization but I still stand by the fact that Chris Samuels is a better LT then Flozell. Period.

 

[zrinkill]

Funny thing is next year when we let Adams walk and the Commanders pick him up they will be claiming he is the best linemen in the game.

:laugh2:

 

[tomson75]

Funny, I seem to see alot of Joyners metics used around here to prove how good Terrance Newman is.

...thank you for furthering my point.

The flaws in his metrics have been exposed...yet every time they come up...there's some silly skins fan trying to regurgitate the same crap.

I know how good Newman is without having to use Joyner's metrics.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

For the last time, I am NOT a homer. Go look up my posts at extremeskins, my handle is funguy1286. You will see i am VERY critical of my team, to the point where some people say I'm not even a fan of the team. I am a 100% realist when it comes to the Commanders. You will also see that I gave the Cowboys there due this preseason.

I am aware there are A LOT of problems with my organization but I still stand by the fact that Chris Samuels is a better LT then Flozell. Period.

noone's debating that, just the ******** idea that Samuels is somehow out of this world compared to him

 

[zrinkill]

Chris Samuels is a better LT then Flozell. Period.

I agreed to that along time ago ..... he is just not much better.

 

[TunaFan33]

For the last time, I am NOT a homer. Go look up my posts at extremeskins, my handle is funguy1286. You will see i am VERY critical of my team, to the point where some people say I'm not even a fan of the team. I am a 100% realist when it comes to the Commanders. You will also see that I gave the Cowboys there due this preseason.

I am aware there are A LOT of problems with my organization but I still stand by the fact that Chris Samuels is a better LT then Flozell. Period.

Again-they're BOTH GOOD. If either goes down, their respective O's will be hurt tremendously.

So who cares which one is better?

 

[skinsfunguy]

Sorry skin fan ...... I do not trust the stats any of you trolls try to feed us.

Flozell when Healthy is at least as good as Samuels ..... and alot cheaper.

Samuels is an underachieving 3rd overall pick.

You agreed that Samuels is better a long time ago??

 

[skinsfunguy]

Again-they're BOTH GOOD. If either goes down, their respective O's will be hurt tremendously.

So who cares which one is better?

I can live with this.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Again-they're BOTH GOOD. If either goes down, their respective O's will be hurt tremendously.

So who cares which one is better?

I don't, just the stink fans have to make a big deal out of it, and exaggerate the claim, since that's one of the few positions that they are better than us at

 

[zrinkill]

You agreed that Samuels is better a long time ago?/

Yes ..... but for a overall 3rd round pick to be a little better than a mid second round pick .... thats underachieving.

You notice I did not say Flo was better (cept at run blocking)

 

[skinsfunguy]

I don't, just the stink fans have to make a big deal out of it, and exaggerate the claim, since that's one of the few positions that they are better than us at

Haha I was just engaging in debate. Im willing to debate other positions as well.

Theres two reasons I frequent this site

1.) to learn about my teams most hated division rival
2.) to discuss the two teams with my teams most hated division rival(being at extremeskins and hearing about how this is the year ever day can get boring)

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Haha I was just engaging in debate. Im willing to debate other positions as well.

Theres two reasons I frequent this site

1.) to learn about my teams most hated division rival
2.) to discuss the two teams with my teams most hated division rival(being at extremeskins and hearing about how this is the year ever day can get boring)

I'm sure you are, I'm just saying, we're better in alot of categories than you, so I can understand your guys' need to exaggerate whenever you get one over us

 

[skinsfunguy]

Yes ..... but for a overall 3rd round pick to be a little better than a mid second round pick .... thats underachieving.

You notice I did not say Flo was better (cept at run blocking)

Ugh, but hes not better at run blocking, in fact, Joyner has him as one of the best. Possibly THE best.

 

[zrinkill]

so I can see why you guys are exagerrating whenever you get one over us

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Ugh, but hes not better at run blocking, in fact, Joyner has him as one of the best. Possibly THE best.

from that link? that was for '05, his metrics do change you know? he had Newman w/ very high '05 metrics, but lower '06 ones

 

[zrinkill]

Possibly THE best.

Here we go again.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Here we go again.

fub it, let 'em have it

Samuels, All-Pro!

 

[skinsfunguy]

I'm sure you are, I'm just saying, we're better in alot of categories than you, so I can see why you guys are exagerrating whenever you get one over us

Ill agree with that.

Positions I feel we are better at then you:

Offense
1.) RB-This can not be debated
2.) FB
3.) LT
4.) C

Defense is hard because of the different systems we run. However, that said, I feel we have a better FS and i honestly think Landry could be better than Roy Williams THIS YEAR. Bold prediction I know but so far he has been magnificent. You guys have the edge as far as cornerback.

Care to debate on any of these?