Even 'Skins are hopeful in pre-season...

[skinsfunguy]

from that link? that was for '05, his metrics do change you know? he had Newman w/ very high '05 metrics, but lower '06 ones

Well considering Betts ran wild over that left side last year the last seven games I doubt much has changed.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

I can agree w/ your ranking at what you're better at, RB, FB, C, although I think FB and C is real, real close

However that said I feel we have a better FS

your boy Joyner's metrics say otherwise

and i honestly think Landry could be better than Roy Williams THIS YEAR. Bold prediction I know but so far he has been magnificent.

last I checked Roy was really good, and will be in his comfort zone, near the LOS, just like Landry, so yeah, a really bold prediction there, but as far as D's go, I think we have the better pass-rush by far, and more playmaking ability, in fact we were better last year in those 2 areas and I don't see that changing

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Well considering Betts ran wild over that left side last year the last seven games I doubt much has changed.

we averaged 4.9ypc running to the left-side, same as Betts

 

[skinsfunguy]

I can agree w/ your ranking at what you're better at, RB, FB, C, although I think FB and C is real, real close



your boy Joyner's metrics say otherwise



last I checked Roy was really good, and will be in his comfort zone, near the LOS, just like Landry, so yeah, a really bold prediction there, but as far as D's go, I think we have the better pass-rush by far, and more playmaking ability, in fact we were better last year in those 2 areas and I don't see that changing

Just as Roy will be comfortable up close to the LOS this year Sean Taylor will be comfortable playing centerfield. Last year the FS and SS positions were not defined, this year they will be.

As I said it was a bold prediction but i had to make one right

I also feel we may have a slight edge at TE just because Cooley is defintely a better blocker than Witten and a comparable reciever.

 

[skinsfunguy]

we averaged 4.9ypc running to the left-side, same as Betts

So then you can't really say Flozell is better than Samuels in regards to run blocking. Right?

 

[zrinkill]

Offense
1.) RB-This can not be debated
2.) FB
3.) LT
4.) C

I will give you running back and a slight edge at left tackle and FB

I do not agree on Center.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Just as Roy will be comfortable up close to the LOS this year Sean Taylor will be comfortable playing centerfield. Last year the FS and SS positions were not defined, this year they will be.

but when has Taylor ever been good as a CFielder? he's never had as good a year as Hamlin had in '04

As I said it was a bold prediction but i had to make one right

hey, it's better than Brandon Lloyd>>>Terry Glenn LOL

I also feel we may have a slight edge at TE just because Cooley is defintely a better blocker than Witten and a comparable reciever.

eh, push, Witten is going to go wild this year though

 

[zrinkill]

I also feel we may have a slight edge at TE just because Cooley is defintely a better blocker than Witten and a comparable reciever.

:laugh2: no

 

[Bob Sacamano]

So then you can't really say Flozell is better than Samuels in regards to run blocking. Right?

you have a point

 

[skinsfunguy]

:laugh2: no

Why? Because of probowls? Notice I said slight advantage, this one is pretty even but its just my opinion. Like I said my reasoning is due to Wittens struggles when it comes to blocking, Cooley is more then adaquete when it comes to this.

 

[zrinkill]

Why? Because of probowls? Notice I said slight advantage, this one is pretty even but its just my opinion. Like I said my reasoning is due to Wittens struggles when it comes to blocking, Cooley is more then adaquete when it comes to this.

Where do you get that Witten struggles at blocking? Cooley is a better Blocker but Witten is a much better receiver.

Dont get me wrong .... I would love to have Cooley as a backup and in on running plays

 

[skinsfunguy]

2006 stats

Cooley: 57 receptions, 734 yards, 6 touchdowns
Witten: 64 receptions, 754 yards, 1 touchdown

2005 stats

Cooley: 71 receptions, 774 yards, 7 touchdowns
Witten: 66 receptions, 757 yards, 6 touchdowns

Last two years

Cooley: 128 receptions, 1508 yards, 13 touchdowns
Witten: 130 receptions, 1511, yards, 7 touchdowns

Not much difference huh? The only big advantage is Cooleys 6 more touchdowns.

 

[skinsfunguy]

Where do you get that Witten struggles at blocking? Cooley is a better Blocker but Witten is a much better receiver.

Dont get me wrong .... I would love to have Cooley as a backup and in on running plays

2006 stats

Cooley: 57 receptions, 734 yards, 6 touchdowns
Witten: 64 receptions, 754 yards, 1 touchdown

2005 stats

Cooley: 71 receptions, 774 yards, 7 touchdowns
Witten: 66 receptions, 757 yards, 6 touchdowns

Last two years

Cooley: 128 receptions, 1508 yards, 13 touchdowns
Witten: 130 receptions, 1511, yards, 7 touchdowns

Witten is a much better reciever?

 

[Bob Sacamano]

Witten's career year was one of the best in history for a TE

I would say it's a push

 

[skinsfunguy]

but when has Taylor ever been good as a CFielder? he's never had as good a year as Hamlin had in '04



hey, it's better than Brandon Lloyd>>>Terry Glenn LOL



eh, push, Witten is going to go wild this year though

He was a very good center fielder in '05


Hahaha anyone who says that has the largest pair of burguny and gold glasses in the world


And I feel Cooley is going to go wild. Him and Campbell seem to have GREAT chemistry. Cooley was having a subpar year last year until Campbell got in and this years preseason has been no different

 

[skinsfunguy]

Witten's career year was one of the best in history for a TE

I would say it's a push

A push works, like I said they are very close.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

He was a very good center fielder in '05

Joyner has him ranked very low in his '05 metrics

Hahaha anyone who says that has the largest paid or burguny and gold glasses in the world

we got that alot last year, believe it or not, then reality set in

And I feel Cooley is going to go wild. Him and Campbell seem to have GREAT chemistry. Cooley was having a subpar year last year until Campbell got in and this years preseason has been no different

why I say Witten is going to go wild is because our new OC Jason Garrett is implementing alot of plays that has the TEs attack the deep middle of the field, it's making our backup TE Anthony Fasano look really good this preseason, just imagine what it will do to Witten

 

[skinsfunguy]

Joyner has him ranked very low in his '05 metrics



we got that alot last year, believe it or not, then reality set in



why I say Witten is going to go wild is because our new OC Jason Garrett is implementing alot of plays that has the TEs attack the deep middle of the field, it's making our backup TE Anthony Fasano look really good this preseason, just imagine what it will do to Witten

Intereting, I thought he did great.

Eh, I'll give them the benefit of the doubt if it was last year. He did do pretty well the year before in San Francisco with a TERRIBLE team. However; that said, I was against that trade fromthe beginning.

I guess we'll see. The NFC east definitely has the best TE'S top to bottom of any division. I just hope we lock cooley up before the season is over.

Zrinkill...you seem to have dissapeared. Still think Witten is a "much better reciever" then Cooley

 

[zrinkill]

Zrinkill...you seem to have dissapeared. Still think Witten is a "much better reciever" then Cooley

Yes ...... better than Samuels is to Adams :laugh2:

 

[ScipioCowboy]

2006 stats

Cooley: 57 receptions, 734 yards, 6 touchdowns
Witten: 64 receptions, 754 yards, 1 touchdown

2005 stats

Cooley: 71 receptions, 774 yards, 7 touchdowns
Witten: 66 receptions, 757 yards, 6 touchdowns

Last two years

Cooley: 128 receptions, 1508 yards, 13 touchdowns
Witten: 130 receptions, 1511, yards, 7 touchdowns

Witten is a much better reciever?

Yes. In Dallas' offense, Witten is competing with Terrell Owens, Terry Glenn, and Patrick Crayton for receptions. In Washington's offense, Cooley is the only other starting caliber receiver not named Santana Moss.