Every offseason priority... Failed

[Califan007]

As disappointing as it is I still can't count backup qb as a priority. The backup qb position is like life insurance. You hope you never need it.

It's actually more like car insurance...

If you get a good insurance policy it will pay for a rental while your car is in the shop and you don't miss a beat.

If you get a bad policy, you get tied up in red tape and they take forever to pay (if they pay at all)...and then your rates go up.

 

[TellerMorrow34]

I honestly don't feel bad about this at all. It's what the Cowboys get for trying to be cute at the back up QB position in the first place.

 

[Idgit]

I agree to disagree on this one.

1. Who's to say that Kellen Moore could not have been the backup. He actually looked pretty good against the Commanders and had other moments. Now I know the Skins sat players too but Moore had NOTHING TO WORK WITH on offense. The injury is unfortunate but it could have happened to a proven backup QB too and it still would have cost us.

2. The defensive line has two new draft picks that were early middle round selections. Collins and Tapper both look like players and could contribute very early.

3. The DBs already get a new corner and safety from last season. Both are major upgrades. OScan for Carr or Claiborne and Jones for Wilcox. Don't sleep on the 6th round corner too. He has size, speed and athleticism. Mo looks good so far and he wasn't as bad as everyone thinks last season.

4. I agree with you on Jaylen Smith pick. Should have taken Jack at least due to the 3 year window this team has if it even has that.

5. The front office did make the biggest move this offseason in the draft by selecting Elliott. It was the best pick this team has made in 25+ years. Adding him to the offense with our line can redefine our team. Ramsey would not have been able to do that.

I see it more like you do than he does, but even though he overstated a bit, it's hard to look at what we did at QB2 and DE this season and be very impressed by it. I like Moore ok, and don't blame the team for him getting hurt (because that's just dumb), but we didn't upgrade the QB2 position at all, and now bad luck *has* left us worse off than we were at the end of last season at that spot. DE, we might actually be ok there, and I like several of the DLs we've got for what they are: developmental projects. But we didn't spend much in terms of draft or FA$ resources to fix either of these two areas. Instead we spent our primary resources on a RB and on a speculative MLB who lively won't give us any snaps at all this season. It was a curious plan.

 

[Alexander]

I liken this assertion to a student being asked by a teacher to add 2 plus 2, but before the student has a chance to answer the teacher screams in his or her face: "FAIL!" Can we at least see how the regular season plays out before we start grading the offseason. smh

If the student will do nothing but answer "three" as they have done the majority of the time for the last couple decades, you might as well save some time.

 

[Zekeats]

I see it more like you do than he does, but even though he overstated a bit, it's hard to look at what we did at QB2 and DE this season and be very impressed by it. I like Moore ok, and don't blame the team for him getting hurt (because that's just dumb), but we didn't upgrade the QB2 position at all, and now bad luck *has* left us worse off than we were at the end of last season at that spot. DE, we might actually be ok there, and I like several of the DLs we've got for what they are: developmental projects. But we didn't spend much in terms of draft or FA$ resources to fix either of these two areas. Instead we spent our primary resources on a RB and on a speculative MLB who lively won't give us any snaps at all this season. It was a curious plan.

Honestly I think the team really covered themselves on DE. They signed the guy from the Raiders, resigned Crawford (Jack) and drafted Tapper. I think all 3 are underrated.....You have to account for the fact that their two projected DE starters both failed them with suspensions.
I mean look at this list:
Gregory
Lawrence
Tapper
Mayowa
Russell
Crawford

That's 6 players for 4-5 spots. So to me they had a nice number of pretty good DEs.

 

[jday]

If the student will do nothing but answer "three" as they have done the majority of the time for the last couple decades, you might as well save some time.

 

[Rockport]

Find it amazing that we haven't played even a preseason game and already many "fans" have us in the tank and Romo going down. Lots of faith in our guys,NOT!. Why the love for Foles? He has only been successful under one coach who happens to coach Kansas City now. Why would anyone think he would be any better than the retreads last year? We did try to trade up and get a QB in the first but we didn't him the deal done. Guess I also have more faith after watching a few practices in Irving, Russell and Tapper along with Thornton and McClain than others but we should find out fairly soon like next week if it is misplaced faith. Someone please tell me what QB we could trade for would be a savior because there isn't one. And do we know we will have to give up a draft choice yet? Cleveland with McCown needs OL guys and bad. We happen to have an excellent back up in Leary that would immediately start for Cleveland. What if say Stephen made a trade with Cleveland and we give up Leary and Williams (two starters) for McCown and Gordon (backs although Gordon could maybe start) and say a conditional pick from the Browns, then what would everyone say. Things tend to change quickly in the NFL and not a game has been played yet. Amazing.

Good observation. Negativity sells here.

 

[casmith07]

stephen said backup QB was an offseason priority. Did nothing other than Dak and cannot even sign Foles. Now will have to waste a draft pick. Because this team does not believe in being proactive, but waiting until there is a crisis and the league knows we have to pay through the nose. Same can be said for DL and DB. We simply have done very little to address depth at our weekest positions. And then spend 2nd round picks on redshirt players. SMH

Backup QB was addressed. We kept Kellen Moore and drafted Dak Prescott.

We drafted multiple players for the defensive front and retained Morris Claiborne and drafted Frazier at DB.

Bad thread is bad.

 

[jnday]

So if the team went out and signed a FA QB or drafted a QB high, and they broke their leg, wouldnt we be in the same situation as we are now?

The doom and gloom on this site right now

It is the same room and gloom as it was predraft. That is the point of the thread. It could be expanded to say that the same room and gloom has been around for a couple of years, and the same positions are causing it:

 

[jnday]

Honestly I think the team really covered themselves on DE. They signed the guy from the Raiders, resigned Crawford (Jack) and drafted Tapper. I think all 3 are underrated.....You have to account for the fact that their two projected DE starters both failed them with suspensions.
I mean look at this list:
Gregory
Lawrence
Tapper
Mayowa
Russell
Crawford

That's 6 players for 4-5 spots. So to me they had a nice number of pretty good DEs.

With the exception of Lawrence , there is not a DE on the roster that has had even an average season in the NFL. Lawrence is the only one that even is considered starter quality. I understand your hope that they develop, but hope is not a good strategy for fixing the pass rush.

 

[WillieBeamen]

It is the same room and gloom as it was predraft. That is the point of the thread. It could be expanded to say that the same room and gloom has been around for a couple of years, and the same positions are causing it:

If its the same doom and gloom that was from before the draft, why are we still complaining about the same things in August?

My point is, the regular season hasnt even started yet, and we are making threads complaining about the backup QB position when Romo is still healthy.

 

[davey999]

If they were counting on Gregory to be a factor at all, then they are dumber than I thought they were. Guy failed like 10 drug tests at Nebraska.
The fact that they drafted him was baffling.

 

[Denim Chicken]

some of you guys must get up and drink your own urine every morning to be so pissy about everything the Cowboys have done and failed to do in your eyes.

Line of the day

 

[ElGatoGrande]

They're in the early phase of rebuilding this defense via the draft which means they have lots of young unproven players. I would have preferred they spent a little more in FA to bridge the gap but overall they are on the right track. Sometimes you just need to play the young guys to see what you've got and too many stop-gap FAs = progress stoppers. When this defense gets over the hump, which could conceivably happen this year or next, they will be sitting pretty with a young group that has depth. That was your uplifting thought of the day brought to you from the makers of Kool-Aid,,, Oh yeah!

 

[LocimusPrime]

While this is sort of off topic to the intent of the thread, please allow me to state emphatically...

Moore is not the answer and never will be.

Right!
I'd like to add that Showers is not the answer and never will be. - as this is his second year on the team, the should be light years ahead of Dak, but instead they had him playing diff positions in yesterday's practice. That bodes very poorly for Showers at QB

 

[Zekeats]

With the exception of Lawrence , there is not a DE on the roster that has had even an average season in the NFL. Lawrence is the only one that even is considered starter quality. I understand your hope that they develop, but hope is not a good strategy for fixing the pass rush.

Tends to happen with youth
I'd rather have youth with no numbers and upside than age with past numbers and downside

 

[LocimusPrime]

Tends to happen with youth
I'd rather have youth with no numbers and upside than age with past numbers and downside

I'd rather have an old Fitzgerald ( on the downside ) than a young Devin Street or an old Derrick Johnson (lb) than a young Damien Wilson

But I can see your point. You like youth w potential

 

[Zekeats]

I'd rather have an old Fitzgerald ( on the downside ) than a young Devin Street or an old Derrick Johnson (lb) than a young Damien Wilson

But I can see your point. You like youth w potential

Ok now your just throwing out some pointless names. The discussion was about de and I am assuming some on here really wanted a washed up Dwight Freemey.

Thanks for your worthless two cents though. I never mentioned any players and to just run your mouth and say something so idiotic to what I said and then trying to make an argument for fitz compared to street is just stupid. It also proves that nobody should spend anymore time than I just did arguing with someone like you

 

[Zekeats]

There is also a reason why fitz and dj are on teams and Freeney is now a journeyman. The first two can still produce.

 

[LocimusPrime]

There is also a reason why fitz and dj are on teams and Freeney is now a journeyman. The first two can still produce.

Freeney is on a team too. He's with the Falcons. And Freeney is a producer, 8 sacks in 300 snaps that's big time production.

Keep the insults to yourself. I never insulted you. But using phrases like " worthless two cents" and " someone like you" comeon that's childish especially when I nicely stated that I understand your view of liking potential.