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Sydla

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why you guys care who laughs is beyond me...this team is in the best spot it has been since the 90s , the hell with them
We've been in a great spot before as well only to fall on our faces. Reality is we have been on a historically bad run. That's just a fact. It's not overexaggeration or anything like that. Not only haven't we won a SB since 1996, we haven't even played in a conference title game.

Think about that.

I go into the season hopeful but I am also painfully aware of the inept run we are on and the guy who has been in charge during that run is still in charge today.
 

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why you guys care who laughs is beyond me...this team is in the best spot it has been since the 90s , the hell with them
What a joke. MM is nowhere near as good as Jimmy; Dak is nowhere near as good as Troy; and Pollard is certainly no Emmitt.

as regards the D...
Well we have Parsons...

and some guys who might get better.

So your claim is really pathetic.
 

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I also never understood why the term “homer” is meant negative. People would rather be known as negative or pessimistic than a homer. Crazy times….

If you get enjoyment from laughing at your team why even be a fan?
I know you don't really want an answer to this, but I got one for you anyways.

Homers are those that just wish for the best and prefer to not look behind the curtain. Nothing wrong with that. The problems start when they start attacking others. The others being "haters" who prefer to try and see things as they perceive them to be, warts and all. Nothing wrong with that, either.

Most of us "haters" are people who are inclined to focus some energy on the warts simply because we want to see things improve and that can't happen without identifying the areas that need improvement. We carry this attitude in general, and in areas of our personal lives it leads to improvement. It is who we are and is not a bad thing.

It fascinates me that the Homer vs hater dynamic here, is really only focused on one aspect of the team. The haters can be critical of every part of this team except for one, with no hostility from the homers. The homers are often critical of some aspects of the team yet they can rationalize that.

At the end of the day, the silly homers vs haters dynamic, as well as the silly labels themselves, are nothing more than ego flexing.

Which is silly since none of this matters one iota in the real world.

I have a good friend who if he told you about his stage 4 cancer diagnosis he would and could do it in a way that would have you laughing.
 

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What a joke. MM is nowhere near as good as Jimmy; Dak is nowhere near as good as Troy; and Pollard is certainly no Emmitt.

as regards the D...
Well we have Parsons...

and some guys who might get better.

So your claim is really pathetic.
Thanks for your opinion, but this is the best team with the most consistency and talent we have seem since the 90s and that's a fact...first road playoff win since 90s among other firsts.

But hey keep being you boo
 

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We've been in a great spot before as well only to fall on our faces. Reality is we have been on a historically bad run. That's just a fact. It's not overexaggeration or anything like that. Not only haven't we won a SB since 1996, we haven't even played in a conference title game.

Think about that.

I go into the season hopeful but I am also painfully aware of the inept run we are on and the guy who has been in charge during that run is still in charge today.
We haven't had back to back 12 win plus seasons or a road playoff win since the 90s....I'd take where this team is now over the late 2000s team which was probably the next best comp
 

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Thanks for your opinion, but this is the best team with the most consistency and talent we have seem since the 90s and that's a fact...first road playoff win since 90s among other firsts.

But hey keep being you boo
I think both of you are right.
 

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I know you don't really want an answer to this, but I got one for you anyways.

Homers are those that just wish for the best and prefer to not look behind the curtain. Nothing wrong with that. The problems start when they start attacking others. The others being "haters" who prefer to try and see things as they perceive them to be, warts and all. Nothing wrong with that, either.

Most of us "haters" are people who are inclined to focus some energy on the warts simply because we want to see things improve and that can't happen without identifying the areas that need improvement. We carry this attitude in general, and in areas of our personal lives it leads to improvement. It is who we are and is not a bad thing.

It fascinates me that the Homer vs hater dynamic here, is really only focused on one aspect of the team. The haters can be critical of every part of this team except for one, with no hostility from the homers. The homers are often critical of some aspects of the team yet they can rationalize that.

At the end of the day, the silly homers vs haters dynamic, as well as the silly labels themselves, are nothing more than ego flexing.

Which is silly since none of this matters one iota in the real world.

I have a good friend who if he told you about his stage 4 cancer diagnosis he would and could do it in a way that would have you laughing.

I personally don't have time for any "hater" when discussing my team but there's room for fans who are pessimistic and negative at times. This team has earned that. No one fan will be the same. The only issue I have is when fans are called out for being too much of a fan. Unrealistic as they may be. They are still fans.
 

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We haven't had back to back 12 win plus seasons or a road playoff win since the 90s....I'd take where this team is now over the late 2000s team which was probably the next best comp
Throw in that the 2023 team looks to be very good.
 

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I personally don't have time for any "hater" when discussing my team but there's room for fans who are pessimistic and negative at times. This team has earned that. No one fan will be the same. The only issue I have is when fans are called out for being too much of a fan. Unrealistic as they may be. They are still fans.
The trouble is that these hater fans that are only negative 24/7 when they have a team that is currently one of the best teams in the conference and a contender for the championship. They just keep up with their bs and hate with no regards to the present.
 

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The trouble is that these hater fans that are only negative 24/7 when they have a team that is currently one of the best teams in the conference and a contender for the championship. They just keep up with their bs and hate with no regards to the present.
Yeah they want me to believe that they are "misunderstood" and are just fed up but no this is not fandom. They spew more hatred than rival fans do.
 

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I personally don't have time for any "hater" when discussing my team but there's room for fans who are pessimistic and negative at times. This team has earned that. No one fan will be the same. The only issue I have is when fans are called out for being too much of a fan. Unrealistic as they may be. They are still fans.
Makes perfect sense to me

I think you do have to acknowledge that the haters get called out also. Unrealistic as they may be, they are still fans, as well.

If we were truly serious about curtailing the animosity we would ditch the labels, stop the call outs and just respond with a reasonable rebuttal aimed at the specific criticisms.

But again, this is just sports. It's one of the few areas we can be opinionated jackasses without fear of serious consequences because it just doesn't matter beyond satisfying our individual ego.
 

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Makes perfect sense to me

I think you do have to acknowledge that the haters get called out also. Unrealistic as they may be, they are still fans, as well.

If we were truly serious about curtailing the animosity we would ditch the labels, stop the call outs and just respond with a reasonable rebuttal aimed at the specific criticisms.

But again, this is just sports. It's one of the few areas we can be opinionated jackasses without fear of serious consequences because it just doesn't matter beyond satisfying our individual ego.
How can a hater be a fan? That doesn't even make sense.

You are asking for people to show compassion for someone who spews hatred towards the team they love. "Haters" isn't a label its a action. For those haters who want to be treated different maybe change your actions?
 

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The trouble is that these hater fans that are only negative 24/7 when they have a team that is currently one of the best teams in the conference and a contender for the championship. They just keep up with their bs and hate with no regards to the present.
Part of that is because they always get called out on a personal level.

Once a punch is thrown, it's on. It just keeps escalating from there.

More often than not, once that first punch is thrown it's not even about football anymore.
 

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I know you don't really want an answer to this, but I got one for you anyways.

Homers are those that just wish for the best and prefer to not look behind the curtain. Nothing wrong with that. The problems start when they start attacking others. The others being "haters" who prefer to try and see things as they perceive them to be, warts and all. Nothing wrong with that, either.

Most of us "haters" are people who are inclined to focus some energy on the warts simply because we want to see things improve and that can't happen without identifying the areas that need improvement. We carry this attitude in general, and in areas of our personal lives it leads to improvement. It is who we are and is not a bad thing.

It fascinates me that the Homer vs hater dynamic here, is really only focused on one aspect of the team. The haters can be critical of every part of this team except for one, with no hostility from the homers. The homers are often critical of some aspects of the team yet they can rationalize that.

At the end of the day, the silly homers vs haters dynamic, as well as the silly labels themselves, are nothing more than ego flexing.

Which is silly since none of this matters one iota in the real world.

I have a good friend who if he told you about his stage 4 cancer diagnosis he would and could do it in a way that would have you laughing.
One correction: As fans, we have no effect on making the warts improve. I think that's one reason optimistic fans get so riled up by negative ones. We can fuss about the team all day but that doesn't change anything except maybe our blood pressure.

I'm not really into labels, especially the homers and haters stuff, which I think is sophomoric. I think there are a lot of realistic fans here who can come off as either a hater or a homer depending on who you ask, and we have a few very vocal optimists and a few very vocal pessimists. Hint: If threads like this stir you up to chirp at those you see as haters or homers, you are probably one of the few.
 

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Not a spin ...... Fact
It is. Just noting that you did a good job of spinning the other fact around. Spin as in ... nice approach or take, you spun it around. There is always another point of view that can be given or interpretation of the evidence.
 

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How can a hater be a fan? That doesn't even make sense.

You are asking for people to show compassion for someone who spews hatred towards the team they love. "Haters" isn't a label its a action. For those haters who want to be treated different maybe change your actions?
I don't see anyone here that fits your description of someone who spews hatred towards the team they love.

I see people who have strong opinions on certain topics who get labeled and then treated as a hater. It's only natural to respond in kind. Not necessarily right, but it's human nature.

When I first saw what is now my all time favorite bike I hated it. Hated the color, hated the pipes, hated the bars, hated all the chrome doodads the previous owner had added. I liked the general style though and saw potential. One by one I identified and resolved everything I hated about it, turning in to my baby. The previous owner saw it one day and he hated it.
 

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I'm not sure why they would be jealous seeing as how this team hasn't won anything for 30 years, just my opinion.
They aren't jealous anymore. I remember when fans of other teams were jealous of us. Lot of Eagle fans down here where I live. When I tell them I'm a Cowboy fan they do laugh at me. Some actually pity me. That's how far we have fallen.
 

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One correction: As fans, we have no effect on making the warts improve. I think that's one reason optimistic fans get so riled up by negative ones. We can fuss about the team all day but that doesn't change anything except maybe our blood pressure.

I'm not really into labels, especially the homers and haters stuff, which I think is sophomoric. I think there are a lot of realistic fans here who can come off as either a hater or a homer depending on who you ask, and we have a few very vocal optimists and a few very vocal pessimists. Hint: If threads like this stir you up to chirp at those you see as haters or homers, you are probably one of the few.
I understand that the two mentalities are going to grate on each other and why it fires people up.

We have to realize that nobody is changing anyone’s mind and that fighting fire with fire just ends up burning the whole place down.

Personally, I couldn't care less if anyone thinks I'm a homer or a hater, or even a damn Eagles fan.

I also don't view myself as above any of this. I've been rolling in the mud before. Circling back to the beginning of my recent comments though, if I don't take a "hater" approach to myself, I'll never try to improve because I'll never acknowledge my faults.
 
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