Ex NFL Coach & GM - Cowboys Easy Choice Is Adrian Peterson

[Stash]

They would not be on the hook for a non football related injury and I would fully expect them to not let him go to the team facility while all this takes place.

And they would be unable to do that. Just like the Titans with McNair.

 

[Manwiththeplan]

And they would be unable to do that. Just like the Titans with McNair.

what month did McNair get traded to Baltimore?

 

[big dog cowboy]

My head hurts.

 

[Manwiththeplan]

Yeah. Really.

One happened with no cap, the other with a cap.

Every penny spent us now accounted for.

Ignoring the fact that no pennies would be spent during the time I am proposing, sure, whatever

Apples. Oranges.

Fine, use the Steve McNair example you provided. That was clearly an example of a team holding a player they had no intention of keeping. Or Laverneous Coles wanting to get out of Washington in 2003 (Must confess, I don't know when the start of the league year was, but living in the area, I know Snyder made it clear he would not grant Coles request for a release). And there are many others, it happens, and considering you provided a great example, I don't know why you are pretending that it doesn't happen.

 

[StarBoyz83]

I wouldnt mind peterson but my bet is he is on the vikings next year or not playing.

 

[Stash]

Ignoring the fact that no pennies would be spent during the time I am proposing, sure, whatever



Fine, use the Steve McNair example you provided. That was clearly an example of a team holding a player they had no intention of keeping. Or Laverneous Coles wanting to get out of Washington in 2003 (Must confess, I don't know when the start of the league year was, but living in the area, I know Snyder made it clear he would not grant Coles request for a release). And there are many others, it happens, and considering you provided a great example, I don't know why you are pretending that it doesn't happen.

You're right. That does appear to be an example of a team doing that very same thing. During the salary cap era. Rare, but it does happen.

 

[Manwiththeplan]

You're right. That does appear to be an example of a team doing that very same thing. During the salary cap era. Rare, but it does happen.

I'd still say it's not that rare. Lavar Arrington in Washington and TO in San Fran were some what similar

 

[btcutter]

I agree that it takes more than an individual effort to win the game and that's the point. we had an 1800 yard rusher. at the end, our defense couldn't hold a hobbling QB and couldn't get off the field. seattle and dallas were 1-2 in rushing and seattle had the #1 defense and that's why they ended up in the superbowl.

everyone is just plugging in AP and assuming that he is going to get 2500 yards behind this offense and we become unstoppable. that means then we pass a little less and overall it might net out. so the offense being unstoppable is far from the case. Patriots had an all time offense that was unstoppable until it met a great defense. the point of this whole thread and how it started was do we spend our resources on another running back?

Do we go get AP or do we get a Hardy or Suh? now I am sure there are those who will say we can get both. but if there was one choice. AP or Suh? I take Suh. because he would take this defense to another level but AP would make the offense a little better.

Absolutely about impact defensive personnel. I would even take Suh over Hardy, IMO. I think pressure generated from interior is absolute nightmare for QB and RBs.

AP is a luxury. This offense thrived because of its OL and absolute commitment to the ground game. Not every RB we plug in can have a special season like Murray but this offense doesn't need 1800 yes from one back. It just need efficient running from 2-3 RBs and get those yards as a group. Coaches need aximize the ability of the RBs they have.

 

[HappyOnions]

Murray more valuable than Dez?

You're crazy.

Dez has been on this team now for a long time and we haven't experienced this kind of success until we started establishing a power running game. It's no coincidence that Murray's production goes hand in hand with the success we've had this past season.

Murray was more valuable than Dez this year. Murray moved the chains more than any other back in the league, he ran for more yards than any Cowboy in history, and he is the biggest reason that Romo was able to have the kind of year that he had.

 

[HappyOnions]

No I didn't pretty much say it there. Words have meaning.

Yes, and your words suggested that Murray's success is largely due to our offensive line and less to do with his talents.

 

[LatinMind]

Some good old fashioned tampering is in order.

If the Cowboys truly covet Peterson, you pretty much have to break that rule and get some assurance from the player that he intends to ask for his release and wants to come to Dallas.

i think that was done long ago when it was reported that Jerry and AP spoke on the phone. But you cant prove to what was talked about. And im sure if he's released and he signs with Dallas that will be brought up.

 

[Galian Beast]

That's exactly what it means.

If Peterson has no choice in where he is traded why would you assume he would re-negotiate. He has all the leverage at that point. If they don't want to pay him the 12.75m the only option is to cut him weeks after trading for him.

You renegotiate before you trade for him. This is a common practice.

 

[Nightman]

You renegotiate before you trade for him. This is a common practice.

Why would he give up money if he doesn't have a say into where he is going. He will just wait for MINN to cut him and he is free to negotiate his best deal with everyone or he shows up to camp and MINN has to pay him 12.75m.

 

[Galian Beast]

Why would he give up money if he doesn't have a say into where he is going. He will just wait for MINN to cut him and he is free to negotiate his best deal with everyone or he shows up to camp and MINN has to pay him 12.75m.

Minnesota doesn't have to cut him and he could be traded to a team that will take his contract and simply prorate it and cut him next year...

Again, many players negotiate to go to the team they want to. Why are you acting like it's your first day?

 

[Nightman]

Minnesota doesn't have to cut him and he could be traded to a team that will take his contract and simply prorate it and cut him next year...

Again, many players negotiate to go to the team they want to. Why are you acting like it's your first day?

Why can't you understand no one is trading for him and paying him 12.75m next year? If a team trades for him, even if they "pro-rate" as you say, they are paying 12.75m for next year one way or another. Peterson has all the leverage, he doesn't have to agree to a pay cut.

 

[Dave_in-NC]

Why can't you understand no one is trading for him and paying him 12.75m next year? If a team trades for him, even if they "pro-rate" as you say, they are paying 12.75m for next year one way or another. Peterson has all the leverage, he doesn't have to agree to a pay cut.

He wants to be Cowboy more than he wants to get paid. He's from Texas.

 

[Nightman]

He wants to be Cowboy more than he wants to get paid. He's from Texas.

Dallas isn't trading for him either.

If MINN keeps him they have to pay him 13m for 2015
If they don't want to keep him they have to release him or lock him out so he doesn't get hurt
He knows he can choose what team he goes to if he is released
If someone tries to trade for him, he has no incentive to redo his deal, he would only be bidding against himself
Anybody with that many kids and Rusty Hardin as a lawyer is always concerned about the money

 

[big dog cowboy]

Anybody with that many kids and Rusty Hardin as a lawyer is always concerned about the money

Kids? He's made more than enough money for that. Even if he has 20 kids. The new contract he signed in 2011 had $36M guaranteed money alone.